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  • seanjeezy
    The Future
    • Aug 2009
    • 3347

    #136
    Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

    Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
    Or the scout's report is wrong there is human element in scouting now.
    Lol yeah, that too.

    So speed doesn't regress at all? It's pretty common for a player to lose speed the second he's introduced to a professional strength and conditioning plan, especially if the player plays an offensive-minded position. It would be a nice touch if something like this was incorporated into the game...
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    • Knight165
      *ll St*r
      • Feb 2003
      • 24964

      #137
      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

      Originally posted by seanjeezy
      Lol yeah, that too.

      So speed doesn't regress at all? It's pretty common for a player to lose speed the second he's introduced to a professional strength and conditioning plan, especially if the player plays an offensive-minded position. It would be a nice touch if something like this was incorporated into the game...
      Speed does regress....but not until regressions starts
      (that sounds weird doesn't it?)

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      • dalger21
        #realtalk
        • Feb 2010
        • 1932

        #138
        Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

        This thread is pretty much a microcosm of why you will never please everyone no matter what you do. No matter what the dev team does, someone will always have something to complain about. Just a shame really.
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        • seanjeezy
          The Future
          • Aug 2009
          • 3347

          #139
          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

          Originally posted by Knight165
          Speed does regress....but not until regressions starts
          (that sounds weird doesn't it?)

          M.K.
          Knight165
          Eh, I can live with that... I remember you saying it doesn't increase as much as other attributes right? So anyway, how 'bout those ratings charts?
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          • thaSLAB
            [Player 1]
            • Feb 2008
            • 4495

            #140
            Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

            Originally posted by DubTrey1
            I love seeing Altuve rated 90 ... Russell, besides you and me, i think we are the only Stros fans on the planet - and I live here in H. lol. (I do wonder how in the world he's rated 90 though )

            I don't think Ramone's a 'stros fan, so you are alone in the world LOL. Oh wait, Lorne_SCEA is an Astros fan so OK, there are 2 of you.

            I'm actually impartial to the Astros, and go to a good handful of their games, I accidentally rooted for them at least two times. My wife works for the Astros organization too, so they get some sympathy cheers. All jokes aside, the 'stros are OK with me too.

            As for Altuve (and ratings in general) I wouldn't get too caught up in the OVR ratings, because of the way the algorithm is calculated. I can tell you that even not all the 99s play the same. Trout's 99 plays way differently than Posey's 99 or even Pujols' 99... actually Trout plays like he's at least a 115 rating!
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            • GlennN
              MVP
              • Oct 2003
              • 1929

              #141
              Originally posted by phant030
              I'm not a fan of a lot of 99s. I guess since there are less, I can't complain too much.
              I agree. The fewer the better. If 99 is the max rating, then how can this be put in a bigger context - What is Babe Ruth? Hank Aaron? Ted Williams? I would like to see better seperation between the overall ratings. I don't know that there is a single player now who deserves a max rating. Just lower the floor, then lower the 99s proportionately. Being a 99 should mean this guy is an all-time great, certain Hall of Famer. That rating should be special, something we rarely see. Heck, the best of the best active now probably shouldn't be over 95, and definately not 17 of them. Just my 2 cents.

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              • tonadom
                Banned
                • Mar 2012
                • 467

                #142
                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                Originally posted by authentic
                Ok, yes we represent maybe 5% of the sales for this game, so that means we aren't allowed to post any ideas or suggestions to the dev team?...
                What ? When did I say that ? When did I even hint towards that ??

                Some of you guys are weird.

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                • GlennN
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1929

                  #143
                  Originally posted by Knight165
                  You guys won't have to edit players.

                  Don't get hung up on the OVR rating(Dear Lord why did they listen to the masses on this one?).....it doesn't indicate that a player is necessarily a 99 in even one attribute...just that the sum of his parts at this position makes him elite at that time.


                  M.K.
                  Knight165
                  I disagree. There is nothing wrong with an overall rating. It just needs to be balanced in the context of the baseball universe. Willie Mays, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams, maybe, deserve a 99. Run today's players by that standard and I think we quickly remove the problem (and we no longer have 17 players at 99).

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                  • ThaShark28_316
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 692

                    #144
                    Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                    Originally posted by DubTrey1
                    I love seeing Altuve rated 90 ... Russell, besides you and me, i think we are the only Stros fans on the planet - and I live here in H. lol. (I do wonder how in the world he's rated 90 though )
                    Nope!!!

                    Astros/Baseball is my fave, so you aren't alone in the H, sir. I know we might finish last, but I don't care. I can't wait for 3/31 (and 3/5, too!).
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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #145
                      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                      Originally posted by GlennN
                      I disagree. There is nothing wrong with an overall rating. It just needs to be balanced in the context of the baseball universe. Willie Mays, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams, maybe, deserve a 99. Run today's players by that standard and I think we quickly remove the problem (and we no longer have 17 players at 99).

                      You're just proving why there should be no overall #'s though.

                      So you give Willie,Babe and the Splinter their 99's in history....and nobody now deserves one.

                      Then in 2016 a kid comes along and breaks every record in baseball after 15 years. EVERY one. Shatters Ruth's SLG/OPS and OPS+ records. Has a higher lifetime OBP than Williams and makes Willie Mays look like Adam Dunn in the OF.

                      What OVR # are those players then?

                      IMO...this is why you shouldn't be judging players with an OVR #....especially in a definitive nature.

                      M.K.
                      Knight165
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                      • GlennN
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1929

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Knight165
                        You're just proving why there should be no overall #'s though.

                        So you give Willie,Babe and the Splinter their 99's in history....and nobody now deserves one.

                        Then in 2016 a kid comes along and breaks every record in baseball after 15 years. EVERY one. Shatters Ruth's SLG/OPS and OPS+ records. Has a higher lifetime OBP than Williams and makes Willie Mays look like Adam Dunn in the OF.

                        What OVR # are those players then?

                        IMO...this is why you shouldn't be judging players with an OVR #....especially in a definitive nature.

                        M.K.
                        Knight165
                        Valid point, but doesn't that argue just as much against having a maximum rating as having an overall rating? In OOTP, a rating can exceed a 100 point scale. Wouldn't that counter your issue? I understand some folks would prefer no overall rating (like in the Front Page Sports series) and that's cool - make it optional to have it hidden. I like the shorthand of it.

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                        • Cavicchi
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 2841

                          #147
                          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                          Originally posted by thaSLAB
                          I don't think Ramone's a 'stros fan, so you are alone in the world LOL. Oh wait, Lorne_SCEA is an Astros fan so OK, there are 2 of you.

                          I'm actually impartial to the Astros, and go to a good handful of their games, I accidentally rooted for them at least two times. My wife works for the Astros organization too, so they get some sympathy cheers. All jokes aside, the 'stros are OK with me too.

                          As for Altuve (and ratings in general) I wouldn't get too caught up in the OVR ratings, because of the way the algorithm is calculated. I can tell you that even not all the 99s play the same. Trout's 99 plays way differently than Posey's 99 or even Pujols' 99... actually Trout plays like he's at least a 115 rating!
                          Well then, I'll make sure Trout is on my team!

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                          • NatsFan95
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 211

                            #148
                            Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                            A bit out of it, but i play fifa as well as the show and nobody is rated 99, lionel messi the best player in the world, is rated 95 which the show should follow, as no player is perfect. I'm a big nats fan and strasburg should never be rated 99, about 88. too many there are rated as 99, only 7 guys in history deserve a 99, cobb, ruth, mays, musial, cy young, koufax and gehrig
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                            • brett the jet favre
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1938

                              #149
                              Re: How we've changed the player ratings algorithm

                              Originally posted by thaSLAB
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                              • Qb
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 8797

                                #150
                                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                                A 99 rating DOES NOT equal "perfect" or one of the best ever, nor does it mean a player doesn't have a weakness in his game. In fact, the overall rating itself has no impact on performance; results are driven by the individual skill ratings and user input. All it means is the player is currently one of the elite players at his position and by extension, in all of MLB.

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