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  • CameRoN0407
    It's a New England Thing
    • Oct 2012
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    #511
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Bronx Bomber03
    I've got to agree with AC. Im not trading a mid b prospect for someone that was a below average first baseman last year and hasn't played in more than 140 games in over 4 seasons.

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    Again, morneau's durability rating is higher that it should be. In each of my franchises on MLB 11 and 12, he hasn't gotten hurt. That should show the difference between reality and virtual reality.
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    • TheNumber35
      Just Bad at Everything
      • Jan 2012
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      #512
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Readyornot0407
      Again, morneau's durability rating is higher that it should be. In each of my franchises on MLB 11 and 12, he hasn't gotten hurt. That should show the difference between reality and virtual reality.
      What are we going for? Virtual fairness and realness...or reality? You can't have it both ways.
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      • Bluejaysfan65
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        • Jun 2011
        • 4784

        #513
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Readyornot0407
        Wut? Nolin is a 23 year old who had a legit year. He's a Mid B in the game I believe.

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        That play with Zobrist in right field was pretty hacks. Poor Votto...
        Originally posted by ACMilan99
        Since it's fairly blatant you're going for guys in the WBC team, take a look at Leroux.

        Lind for Morneau is fine. Saves the Twins, like, 9M+.
        I don't have Lind in my franchise any more. What about David Cooper and somebody else???
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
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          #514
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
          I don't have Lind in my franchise any more. What about David Cooper and somebody else???
          Cooper's a cheaper Lind, that's fine
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          • CameRoN0407
            It's a New England Thing
            • Oct 2012
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            #515
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by TheNumber35
            What are we going for? Virtual fairness and realness...or reality? You can't have it both ways.
            I'm talking about virtual ratings. Some things happen in real life that don't and will never happen in game (i.e. drug/alcohol issues, public anxiety, etc.) and we worry about that. Like say if I ask for Zack Grenkie, we won't put into consideration his anxiety issues because that doesn't matter. I have been pulling for MLB the show to do that, but don't think it'll happen until the PS4.
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            • Bluejaysfan65
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              • Jun 2011
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              #516
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ACMilan99
              Cooper's a cheaper Lind, that's fine
              Ok. So Morneau for Cooper is ok???
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              • AC
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                • Sep 2010
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                #517
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Readyornot0407
                I'm talking about virtual ratings. Some things happen in real life that don't and will never happen in game (i.e. drug/alcohol issues, public anxiety, etc.) and we worry about that. Like say if I ask for Zack Grenkie, we won't put into consideration his anxiety issues because that doesn't matter. I have been pulling for MLB the show to do that, but don't think it'll happen until the PS4.
                It's never going to happen while the MLBPA exists

                I'm still not sure what your issue is with the proposed trade ideas

                Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
                Ok. So Morneau for Cooper is ok???
                Yessir
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                • CameRoN0407
                  It's a New England Thing
                  • Oct 2012
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                  #518
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ACMilan99
                  It's never going to happen while the MLBPA exists

                  I'm still not sure what your issue is with the proposed trade ideas
                  It really sucks because that will completely revamp trades for most likely all of us!

                  What do you mean?
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                  • jkjgiants26
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                    • Oct 2008
                    • 89

                    #519
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    If your team needs a power hitter and you don't need a high average and have the budget you can get Granderson from the Yanks for like two B potentials or an A and two Cs. It payed off for me with SF he hit .320 with 35 hrs and 100+ RBIs.

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                    • TheNumber35
                      Just Bad at Everything
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 2708

                      #520
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Readyornot0407
                      I'm talking about virtual ratings. Some things happen in real life that don't and will never happen in game (i.e. drug/alcohol issues, public anxiety, etc.) and we worry about that. Like say if I ask for Zack Grenkie, we won't put into consideration his anxiety issues because that doesn't matter. I have been pulling for MLB the show to do that, but don't think it'll happen until the PS4.
                      That's why we have this and the Arbitration thread though...its for us guys who want these things in the game but cannot get them due to the obvious reasons (MLBPA doesn't want it, and I don't blame them.) The whole purpose of this thread is so that we can take these things into consideration when making our deals

                      EDIT: Also, comparing something that is tangible on the field like Morneau's durability...and anxiety issues/drug or alcohol abuse is very short sighted and ridiculous
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                      • CameRoN0407
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                        • Oct 2012
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                        #521
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by TheNumber35
                        That's why we have this and the Arbitration thread though...its for us guys who want these things in the game but cannot get them due to the obvious reasons (MLBPA doesn't want it, and I don't blame them.) The whole purpose of this thread is so that we can take these things into consideration when making our deals

                        EDIT: Also, comparing something that is tangible on the field like Morneau's durability...and anxiety issues/drug or alcohol abuse is very short sighted and ridiculous
                        I know that's why we have it and that's a reason I'm here. But I'm talking for people who don't use that kind of realism (msuboy11). Anyway, I'm done arguing about something as stupid as w e are. It's a waste of thread space since I agree anyway.

                        EDIT: any durability is nowhere near as serious as drug/alcohol abuse and anxiety. I was using them fom a non realistic POV
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                        • Bronx Bomber03
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                          • Mar 2013
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                          #522
                          Originally posted by Readyornot0407
                          I know that's why we have it and that's a reason I'm here. But I'm talking for people who don't use that kind of realism (msuboy11). Anyway, I'm done arguing about something as stupid as w e are. It's a waste of thread space since I agree anyway.

                          EDIT: any durability is nowhere near as serious as drug/alcohol abuse and anxiety. I was using them fom a non realistic POV
                          So you were kind of playing devils advocate. I could see how that could be helpful for people reading the thread hearing different POVs.

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                          • Bluejaysfan65
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                            • Jun 2011
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                            #523
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by ACMilan99
                            Yessir
                            Kinda off topic but would you recommend putting Morneau at first base or as the DH???
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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
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                              #524
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Readyornot0407
                              It really sucks because that will completely revamp trades for most likely all of us!

                              What do you mean?
                              I'm not sure if you're arguing Lind/Cooper for Morneau or not

                              Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
                              Kinda off topic but would you recommend putting Morneau at first base or as the DH???
                              Depends on what other options I could use at 1B
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                              • CameRoN0407
                                It's a New England Thing
                                • Oct 2012
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                                #525
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Bronx Bomber03
                                So you were kind of playing devils advocate. I could see how that could be helpful for people reading the thread hearing different POVs.

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                                Yea, because I understand. I used to be one of the most unrealistic people you could find! I once traded Miggy and Verlander for a couple Cs and Bs! That was way back in MLB 10 though. Now I take various thing into consideration when trading. Like the amount of money for contracts, player moral (let's not start another argument on that), and depth at that position. I'm still starting to learn to start putting things like the thing we were just arguing about into affect, but I should have it in no time.
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