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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #5851
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by BlueJays09
    So JP+Nolin for Lyles+Carter isn't good? Nolin has performed well in AAA, but Deshields may be a great piece and I do like him, but just have no room for him. Another SP I do have room for though.

    If I were getting Lyles/Carter I would prob pull the trigger but Desheilds/Carter Im better off keeping JP for this year
    You aren't getting Lyles with those stats.
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    • CameRoN0407
      It's a New England Thing
      • Oct 2012
      • 3328

      #5852
      Originally posted by ACMilan99
      You aren't getting Lyles with those stats.
      My thoughts exactly.

      Looks like he's a breakout in your 'chise!
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      • DaBull_33
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        • Mar 2013
        • 601

        #5853
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Totte
        The McCann deal is fine.

        Having a hard time imagining the Orioles trading away Davis who's thrived under Showalter. If you really want to make the deal, it'd have to be Pacheco along with Friedrich and Rutledge. Adding Rutledge here would ruin your McCann deal with the Braves though
        That seems like an awful lot for a slugging 1B who doesn't hit for high average, and strikes out a lot (3rd in the AL in my 'chise).

        Now, obviously I'm basing this off of in-game stats, not what he's done IRL.

        The spreadsheet calls for a Mid B and a High C for Davis. Pacheco/Rutledge would be two Mid B's.

        What if I did Eddie Butler/Wilton Lopez to Atlanta (as I pointed out a few pages back, Atlanta has been wrecked with injuries to their pitching staff), and Pacheco/Rutledge to Baltimore for Davis?

        I don't have exact stats for Lopez, but it's something like: 20.0 IP, 2-0, 1.20 ERA, 1.00 WHIP. Again, those aren't exact, but they're close.

        I also thought about Trumbo, but he's hitting something like .211 with 3 HR and 15 RBI, while leading the league in strikeouts. Plus, the Angels are at or near the top in their division.
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        • Bluejaysfan65
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          • Jun 2011
          • 4784

          #5854
          How willing would the angels be of giving up trumbo
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          • nowitsourtime
            Banned
            • Oct 2011
            • 876

            #5855
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Pretty willingly I would think. They're in desperate need of starters and prospects

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            • BlueJays09
              MVP
              • Jul 2011
              • 2553

              #5856
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              In my game the Angels are last by like 12.5 games at trade deadline...Trumbo has struggled and JP has been hitting very nicely. They need a catcher and prospects so would this be fair:

              JP+Drabek or Nolin for Trumbo?

              Stats:
              Arencibia - .325/.344/.656 with 27 HR, 69 RBI, 77 Games (slewed a bit due to slider change)
              Nolin - 1-2, 5.81 ERA, 1.71 WHIP, 22 K, 7 starts with AAA
              Drabek - 6-4, 3.41 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, 74 K's, 18 starts with AAA

              Trumbo - .246/.279/.434 with 16 HR and 57 RBI.

              - Is this fair as is? what SP would be better for LA? could I get more or would I need to add more?
              Last edited by BlueJays09; 06-12-2013, 12:30 PM.

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              • Bluejaysfan65
                MVP
                • Jun 2011
                • 4784

                #5857
                Seems either OK or too much but definitely not too little.
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                • nowitsourtime
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 876

                  #5858
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  I'd work a deal around prospects rather than JPA or Drabek, especially since the Angels are out of it

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                  • BlueJays09
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 2553

                    #5859
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Well JP gives them a significant upgrade at C and hes young and producing...I could do Nolin instead of Drabek? Any Prospects you think would fit over Drabek or Nolin?

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                    • Totte
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2919

                      #5860
                      Originally posted by BlueJays09
                      Well JP gives them a significant upgrade at C and hes young and producing...I could do Nolin instead of Drabek? Any Prospects you think would fit over Drabek or Nolin?
                      In a win now mode, the JPA plus Drabek would be better for the Angels. As they're out of it, JPA and Nolin is probably the best fit
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                      • BlueJays09
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 2553

                        #5861
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Totte
                        In a win now mode, the JPA plus Drabek would be better for the Angels. As they're out of it, JPA and Nolin is probably the best fit
                        Cool thanks but is this enough? am I ripping them? should i add more?

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                        • Totte
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2919

                          #5862
                          Originally posted by DaBull_33
                          That seems like an awful lot for a slugging 1B who doesn't hit for high average, and strikes out a lot (3rd in the AL in my 'chise).

                          Now, obviously I'm basing this off of in-game stats, not what he's done IRL.

                          The spreadsheet calls for a Mid B and a High C for Davis. Pacheco/Rutledge would be two Mid B's.

                          What if I did Eddie Butler/Wilton Lopez to Atlanta (as I pointed out a few pages back, Atlanta has been wrecked with injuries to their pitching staff), and Pacheco/Rutledge to Baltimore for Davis?

                          I don't have exact stats for Lopez, but it's something like: 20.0 IP, 2-0, 1.20 ERA, 1.00 WHIP. Again, those aren't exact, but they're close.

                          I also thought about Trumbo, but he's hitting something like .211 with 3 HR and 15 RBI, while leading the league in strikeouts. Plus, the Angels are at or near the top in their division.
                          Rutledge is a nice fit for Baltimore since B-Rob is on and off the DL all the time and Schoop, if he ends up at 2B, won't be ready until 2015 at the earliest. Based off the in game stats without looking at IRL, I'd go Pacheco and Rutledge like you suggested.

                          Since the Braves are out of it, go with the young arm in Butler over Lopez. Lopez doesn't really carry and trade value. What other arms do you have in AA/AAA around age 20-22?
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                          • Totte
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 2919

                            #5863
                            Originally posted by BlueJays09
                            Cool thanks but is this enough? am I ripping them? should i add more?
                            Value wise, looking at the spreadsheet, you're overpaying by a high C and I think that's fair for a Trumbo caliber type player
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                            • BlueJays09
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 2553

                              #5864
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Totte
                              Value wise, looking at the spreadsheet, you're overpaying by a high C and I think that's fair for a Trumbo caliber type player
                              Cool Thanks. Im between that deal or JP for Carter+Deshields from HOU. Still 17 games before trade deadline so I gotta keep watch on those deals

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #5865
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by BlueJays09
                                Well JP gives them a significant upgrade at C and hes young and producing...I could do Nolin instead of Drabek? Any Prospects you think would fit over Drabek or Nolin?
                                Arencibia is two weeks older than Trumbo lol, he's not 'young' anymore. And once again, Drabek does not have value.

                                Give them Stroman, maybe?

                                By the way I got your PM but don't have time to respond to all of it atm.
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