2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[sink4ever]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Ok, looking for input on a couple trades I'd like to make. Season 3, Astros franchise. I'm contending for the last WC spot in June, also contending for my division.

First trade:

Astros send:
SP Freddie Lovett 22y/o, 71 ovr, A pot
SS Carlos Correa 20y/o, 68 ovr, A pot
SP Bud Norris 29 y/o, 87 ovr, B pot 5-5, 5.05 ERA, 62.1 IP, 44 SO, 26 BB

Marlins send:
SP Jacob Turner 23 y/o, 87 ovr, A pot 6-4, 4.52 ERA, 63.2 IP, 23 SO, 19 BB


All 3 of these players will instantly be starting in Miami, their roster is horrendous! They have 5 players 80 ovr or better. There are in now way contending for a WC spot even within 3 seasons.

Second Trade:

Astros Send:
2B Delino De Shields 22 y/o, 76 ovr, A pot, .260 avg, 3 HR, 17 RBI, .337 OBP, 177 AB, 18 BB, 24 SO, 7 SB (AAA)
1B Alfonso Nieves 18 y/o, 49 ovr, A pot, .294 avg, 3 HR, 28 RBI, .337 OBP, 170 AB, 12 BB, 23 SO, 2 SB (AAA)
SP Derek Mattson 23 y/o, 64 ovr, A pot, 3-2, 3.96 ERA, 61.1 IP, 27 SO, 31 BB (AA)
SP Alex White 26 y/o, 72 ovr, B pot, 4-5, 4.20 ERA, 60 IP, 35 SO, 19 BB (AAA)

Dodgers Send:
SP Felix Hernandez 28 y/o, 99 ovr, A pot, 6-3, 3.82 ERA, 73 IP, 54 SO, 26 BB

Delino will be an instant starter at the MLB level for LA. White will likely be a MLB starter in his 2nd or 3rd season in LA. The Dodgers could be contenders but they've lacked consistency, and Felix is a large contract for them to carry, 6 years, over $17m the last 3 years of the deal.

Edit: The Dodgers have 3 SP's over 90 ovr, so I don't think they'll greatly miss Felix.

Lot of variables, but I kinda think you may be overpaying in the first deal and underpaying in the second.

[Shibito]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Lot of variables, but I kinda think you may be overpaying in the first deal and underpaying in the second.

Should I consider adding another A prospect to the Felix deal? I have a very deep farm system thanks to 2 drafts in a row being in the top 3 selections.

[sink4ever]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Should I consider adding another A prospect to the Felix deal? I have a very deep farm system thanks to 2 drafts in a row being in the top 3 selections.

I'm really no expert on these things, but I don't know that 1B Alfonso Nieves is a great trade chip due to his low OVR and I'm not sure Alex White brings all that much to the table either. You're in Season 3, right? How has Felix done the past 2 years? What is his contract like right now? I tend to think 4 very solid A's at a minimum, not knowing much else.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

First trade:

Astros send:
SP Freddie Lovett 22y/o, 71 ovr, A pot
SS Carlos Correa 20y/o, 68 ovr, A pot
SP Bud Norris 29 y/o, 87 ovr, B pot 5-5, 5.05 ERA, 62.1 IP, 44 SO, 26 BB

Marlins send:
SP Jacob Turner 23 y/o, 87 ovr, A pot 6-4, 4.52 ERA, 63.2 IP, 23 SO, 19 BB

Waaaaaay too much given up. Way, way, way too much.

Second Trade:

Astros Send:
2B Delino De Shields 22 y/o, 76 ovr, A pot, .260 avg, 3 HR, 17 RBI, .337 OBP, 177 AB, 18 BB, 24 SO, 7 SB (AAA)
1B Alfonso Nieves 18 y/o, 49 ovr, A pot, .294 avg, 3 HR, 28 RBI, .337 OBP, 170 AB, 12 BB, 23 SO, 2 SB (AAA)
SP Derek Mattson 23 y/o, 64 ovr, A pot, 3-2, 3.96 ERA, 61.1 IP, 27 SO, 31 BB (AA)
SP Alex White 26 y/o, 72 ovr, B pot, 4-5, 4.20 ERA, 60 IP, 35 SO, 19 BB (AAA)

Dodgers Send:
SP Felix Hernandez 28 y/o, 99 ovr, A pot, 6-3, 3.82 ERA, 73 IP, 54 SO, 26 BB

Replace Mattson and White with A's and throw in another B and it'd be *fair.*

(I know Mattson is an A but he's 23 and you said the Dodgers have a lot of SPs and he's not performing amazingly or anything)

[nowitsourtime]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Overpay for Turner, underpay for Felix

Although I'm personally wondering how Felix ended up on the dodgers...

[CameRoN0407]

The 2012 thread has 1189 pages... I wonder how long it would take to read the whole thing

Wow, I thought we had 1400! Still a GREAT number

[Shibito]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Waaaaaay too much given up. Way, way, way too much.



Replace Mattson and White with A's and throw in another B and it'd be *fair.*

(I know Mattson is an A but he's 23 and you said the Dodgers have a lot of SPs and he's not performing amazingly or anything)

Alrright, I think I'll just make the Turner trade, and leave Felix alone. Should I take out Lovett?

Overpay for Turner, underpay for Felix

Although I'm personally wondering how Felix ended up on the dodgers...

Signed by the Royals this past off season, and traded to the Dodgers before the season even started. I was in a bidding war against the Royals for him, but I lost out on both Felix and Yovani (both went to the Royals).

[hradekbr]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Alrright, I think I'll just make the Turner trade, and leave Felix alone. Should I take out Lovett?



Signed by the Royals this past off season, and traded to the Dodgers before the season even started. I was in a bidding war against the Royals for him, but I lost out on both Felix and Yovani (both went to the Royals).

Turner's worth 2 B's, make sure the B's are solid though. He isn't what he was when he came out of high school

[CameRoN0407]

Turner's worth 2 B's, make sure the B's are solid though. He isn't what he was when he came out of high school

Keep in mind, As will almost 95% of the time be ace overall. Turner is an A so he will become an ace (I already tested this out)

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Keep in mind, As will almost 95% of the time be ace overall. Turner is an A so he will become an ace (I already tested this out)

A high overall doesn't necessarily mean high quality production, though.

[CameRoN0407]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

A high overall doesn't necessarily mean high quality production, though.

I know this too. Just take a look at royals19 dynasty last year. He had the King and Clayton (both full bars) but they didn't produce that well until the end of the year. Most likely, depending on the team too, high overall could mean high production...

[Shibito]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Thanks guys, I'll look over Miami's roster and see if I have a couple young B's that could contribute for them in the near future and beyond.

[BamaFan1309]

I'm the braves and I'm trying to get Andrew McCutchen from the Pirates...the only way I can get him is by including Kris Medlen in the deal. Would you do this trade?

[Scott]

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I'm the braves and I'm trying to get Andrew McCutchen from the Pirates...the only way I can get him is by including Kris Medlen in the deal. Would you do this trade?

Never. Pirates won't trade their cornerstone.

[BamaFan1309]

I understand in real life they won't, but they have accepted the trade. I'm simply asking if it's a good trade for me?