2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[WildPotato]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

The problem with Morban is staying healthy, if he can bite the injury bug then he's at least an average major leaguer with the potential to be above average. Guerrero is a potential star, every new report I hear is better than the last, he just needs to work his way up. Here's a recent report from Baseball Prospectus:



Morban is an 83 potential and Guerrero is an 87 btw.

Anyway, as far as Seattle's needs go, we're looking to trade prospects not acquire them. There's logjams at every level.

As a Mariners fan, I'm disappointed by how much I undervalued his potential, in real life and in game (I figured he was around a mid B).

[KomicJ]

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I can't really add to what else if anything would be needed as I said I am not a good evaluator of talent and trades so others would have to fill in those gaps. If I had to I guess maybe a nice backup either at OF or C, but neither would be needed this year and from the Vibe I get from everyone that has mentioned anything to you just another C would do er if you even had to give up another player to complete it realistically and that falls into some sort of a backup guy that if anything can get Seattle a bit younger than Schoppach or Thames or Chavez or Ibanez.

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Really, I didn't think C would be a position of needs with Montero and Zunino (and Hicks to a lesser extent).

The Rockies do have a couple of decent young B-potential guys at that position they could part with, but none of them even come close to Zunino (unless you're thinking about trading one of the two). But I wouldn't mind adding more pieces in both of those needs if that makes it a lot better for the Mariners (and I think it's a bit justified by the fact that the players I get are MLB ready and yet, still pretty young, and Smoak's potential is A in the game).

Seattle gets:
(C) Wilfredo Rodriguez - 19yo, 63ov, B potential
(1B) Kennys Vargas - 22yo, 63ov, B potential
(OF) Oswaldo Arcia - 21yo, 69ov, B potential
(OF) Charlie Blackmon - 26yo, 69ov, B potential

Colorado gets:
(SP) Brandon Maurer - 22yo, 79ov, B potential
(CP) Carter Capps - 22yo, 74ov, B potential
(1B) Justin Smoak - 26yo, 76ov, A potential

As for your outfielders, my memory didn't serve me well...looks like you have more depth that I initially thought (at least with OSFM v2):

Gabriel Guerrero (#11 on prospect list) - 19yo, B potential, 62 overall.
Julio Morban (#14 on prospect list) - 21yo, B potential, 67 overall.
Francisco Martinez (#19 on prospect list) - 22yo, B potential, 64 overall.

[dbacks_Nation]

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I'm in 2014 and I'm trying to acquire Brennan Boesch from the New York Yankees, I'm playing with the Arizona Diamondbacks with OSFM Spring Training. Boesch is currently in Triple-A and the Yankees don't currently need him on the MLB roster due to moves they made in the offseason.

What might it take my farm system to get him? I simmed 2014 and had trades turned off during last season to control stupid trades, so rosters are pretty similar to 2013 except for offseason moves.

[KomicJ]

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Anyway, as far as Seattle's needs go, we're looking to trade prospects not acquire them. There's logjams at every level.

Oh ! I agree about the logjam, but I thought Seattle would be looking to bring even more young guys in their system...but you're right, maybe they have enough already. Not sure the Rockies can be of any help in that case... :/

Quick (kinda of a noob) question: How do you know the ceiling of a player in The Show ?

[seanjeezy]

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Oh ! I agree about the logjam, but I thought Seattle would be looking to bring even more young guys in their system...but you're right, maybe they have enough already. Not sure the Rockies can be of any help in that case... :/

Quick (kinda of a noob) question: How do you know the ceiling of a player in The Show ?

Well I did the Mariners for OSFM so that's why I know the exact number

The M's roster will be drastically different next year, heck it might even be different by the ASB. Morales, Ibanez, Bay, etc. are placeholders meant to satisfy the common fan, most of our top prospects are in the upper minors and knocking on the door. The true weakspots in the org are CF and 1B, Dexter Fowler would actually be a good fit IMO.

[KomicJ]

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Well I did the Mariners for OSFM so that's why I know the exact number

The M's roster will be drastically different next year, heck it might even be different by the ASB. Morales, Ibanez, Bay, etc. are placeholders meant to satisfy the common fan, most of our top prospects are in the upper minors and knocking on the door. The true weakspots in the org are CF and 1B, Dexter Fowler would actually be a good fit IMO.

Hmmm...I don't think I can afford to lose my lead-off batter and starting CF, at least not right now, as none of my young outfielders are ready to take that spot. As much as I'd like to find a younger option at 1B, acquiring one by making another hole in the line-up probably isn't the best thing to do.

Guess I'm back to square one...

Edit: Thanks for the input though, really appeciated.

[Sacrafice]

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I was right with the OF & 1B thing at least and you had the right idea going for those positions and is why I suggested they be as close to MLB ready as you can make them. Fowler is someone I didn't think of and fits to what I am trying to do / looking for. I might have to take a look at him myself.

I only mentioned C for backup only. They are not going to have Montero & Zunino both at catcher and have one ride the bench so a younger guy (like 27-28 not 22-23) than they have backup could have been an option if you absolutely had to and in no way was saying anyone that could potentially be an everyday starter.

As I said I have no value in these types of discussions, but wanted to point out MLB ready was going to be more appealing than strait up prospects.

[TheKT]

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Ok, so the Jays didn't accept my trade for Thole. What about Chris Leroux of the Pirates for Hank Conger of the Angels?

[AC]

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Ok, so the Jays didn't accept my trade for Thole. What about Chris Leroux of the Pirates for Hank Conger of the Angels?

You're overpaying.

[TheKT]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

You're overpaying.

Could I pick up anyone else along with Conger?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Sup guys,

So I have started a franchise with the Braves and I've noticed they are pretty weak at 3B. I was wondering if anyone that has a franchise with the Braves have addressed this via trades? If so for what player? I was thinking of going after prospect like Olt or Rendon, however, not sure how much I'll have to give for one of them. Would to hear a feedback from you guys on those players or any other that you may have in mind.

Thanks.

Minor + Terdoslavich for Olt
J.R. Graham + Alex Wood for Olt + mid C

I had Garcia go down last night. He is out for 2 months I believe. Would Halladay be available? Phillies are in the hunt for a wild card spot.

No. Ricky Nolasco interest you?

The Astros look pretty good in the infield for the future. Correa and Singleton will equal a good team.

Yeah, lol. My 'chise looks like:

1B/DH: Brett Wallace/Chris Carter/Singleton
2B: Altuve/DeShields
SS: (soon to be Dee Gordon)/Correa
3B: Olt

Seeing as the Phillies are 8 games back of the WC nearing the trade deadline, would Ryan Howard be obtainable as the Rays and would Chris Archer alone be enough for Howard? Also he is having a pretty good season .286 17 hrs so far.

You are overpaying....

Archer + low C for Howard + Bastardo + Aumont/Domonic Brown ?

Really, I didn't think C would be a position of needs with Montero and Zunino (and Hicks to a lesser extent).

The Rockies do have a couple of decent young B-potential guys at that position they could part with, but none of them even come close to Zunino (unless you're thinking about trading one of the two). But I wouldn't mind adding more pieces in both of those needs if that makes it a lot better for the Mariners (and I think it's a bit justified by the fact that the players I get are MLB ready and yet, still pretty young, and Smoak's potential is A in the game).

Seattle gets:
(C) Wilfredo Rodriguez - 19yo, 63ov, B potential
(1B) Kennys Vargas - 22yo, 63ov, B potential
(OF) Oswaldo Arcia - 21yo, 69ov, B potential
(OF) Charlie Blackmon - 26yo, 69ov, B potential

Colorado gets:
(SP) Brandon Maurer - 22yo, 79ov, B potential
(CP) Carter Capps - 22yo, 74ov, B potential
(1B) Justin Smoak - 26yo, 76ov, A potential

As for your outfielders, my memory didn't serve me well...looks like you have more depth that I initially thought (at least with OSFM v2):

Gabriel Guerrero (#11 on prospect list) - 19yo, B potential, 62 overall.
Julio Morban (#14 on prospect list) - 21yo, B potential, 67 overall.
Francisco Martinez (#19 on prospect list) - 22yo, B potential, 64 overall.

I think you are close here. Would you trade CarGo? He'd fit in nicely in Seattle. Kyle Parker would be a nice score for them also (closer to ready that Guerrero). Tyler Colvin as a lesser piece maybe. How about Drew Pomeranz?

I'm in 2014 and I'm trying to acquire Brennan Boesch from the New York Yankees, I'm playing with the Arizona Diamondbacks with OSFM Spring Training. Boesch is currently in Triple-A and the Yankees don't currently need him on the MLB roster due to moves they made in the offseason.

What might it take my farm system to get him? I simmed 2014 and had trades turned off during last season to control stupid trades, so rosters are pretty similar to 2013 except for offseason moves.

Not much honestly, he passed through waiver unclaimed in spring training.

Chris Owings + low C for Boesch + Adam Warren/Melky Mesa + bullpen arm

Could I pick up anyone else along with Conger?

Yes. Michael Clevinger possibly?

[AC]

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Could I pick up anyone else along with Conger?

Randal Grichuck, if he's in the rosters? Decent enough prospect

Minor + Terdoslavich for Olt
J.R. Graham + Alex Wood for Olt + mid C

I'm high on Minor and low on Olt but both of these are really unfair.

Archer + low C for Howard + Bastardo + Aumont/Domonic Brown ?

Archer for Howard + Aumont/Brown + Biddle?

[KomicJ]

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I think you are close here. Would you trade CarGo? He'd fit in nicely in Seattle. Kyle Parker would be a nice score for them also (closer to ready that Guerrero). Tyler Colvin as a lesser piece maybe. How about Drew Pomeranz?

You mean on top of what was already in the deal ? That's just seems like a lot, no ?

But I wouldn't do it, personally. CarGo is the reason why I picked the Rockies for my franchise, so he's pretty much untouchable. Pomeranz is our future #1 on the mound...can't trade him for Maurer, who I originally wanted so that I could have a solid RH/LH 1-2 punch. But I still have Pomeranz above him...

Parker was in at some point, because he seemed like a better fit for the Mariners than Trevor Story. But I can't trade both (Story to Minny to get Arcia and Vargas, and put these two and Parker in the Seattle deal).

The main reason I targeted Seattle is because I need a younger 1B, and Smoak's value on the chart seemed reasonable for what I see of him in the game. Now I know I added Maurer and Capps (which I realize now I might have under-estimated the value) but if I have to trade someone like Gonzalez, or trade 2 of my Top-5 prospects + other B's...then I'm gonna have to pass.

Maybe I shouldn't try to fix everything with just one trade.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Archer for Howard + Aumont/Brown + Biddle?

I would think Biddle is a bit of an overpay if only for the fact that some services list him as the top prospect in Philly. How about Jonathan Pettibone instead? Ethan Martin?

I am really high on Archer, especially seeing him from his Cubs farmhand days. It's not exaggerating to say he's got one of the nastiest sliders, if not the filthiest, in minor league baseball right now. 20-80 scale, a solid 70/75. And the upside of a #2 with the floor of an elite set-up man. A K-machine to boot.

[AC]

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I would think Biddle is a bit of an overpay if only for the fact that some services list him as the top prospect in Philly. How about Jonathan Pettibone instead? Ethan Martin?

I am really high on Archer, especially seeing him from his Cubs farmhand days. It's not exaggerating to say he's got one of the nastiest sliders, if not the filthiest, in minor league baseball right now. 20-80 scale, a solid 70/75. And the upside of a #2 with the floor of an elite set-up man. A K-machine to boot.

Dunno those guys. Point is that a bloated contract + Brad Lincoln v2.0/Travis Snider v2.0 is much less valuable than Chris Archer, as illustrated by your below points. Kid's a beast.