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  • CameRoN0407
    It's a New England Thing
    • Oct 2012
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    #2506
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ACMilan99
    If he's known as inconsistent, that's something you're getting, regardless of his next 2-3 games, doesn't even slightly impact the timing.

    But that's not even true lol, take a look at his monthly career splits. They're not inconsistent at all. His monthly wOBAs are quite consistent(ly good).

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits....ion=P&season=0

    The highest jump is from July-August anyways. Granted, none of this is an adequate sample, but it's better than waiting about 3 more starts.
    Too bad he ain't hitting as much anymore. All I'm saying is that i wouldn't trade for him yet. I said AT LEAST mid July. Maybe the deadline would help. (4-5 more starts).
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    • WaitTilNextYear
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      • Mar 2013
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      #2507
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Uh oh, Jeter's out for a long while....here come the "Profar to the Yanks" trade ideas...
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      • CameRoN0407
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        #2508
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
        Uh oh, Jeter's out for a long while....here come the "Profar to the Yanks" trade ideas...
        I'm looking to get Profar in my Yanks 'chise. How about Fransisco Cervelli and the ever-so-aging Texeria? It works out, trust me!
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        • AC
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          #2509
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by CameRoN0407
          Too bad he ain't hitting as much anymore. All I'm saying is that i wouldn't trade for him yet. I said AT LEAST mid July. Maybe the deadline would help. (4-5 more starts).
          Hitting?

          He is what he is, he's not proving himself anymore. He's a consistent number #4 with flashes of brilliance (which is mistaken as inconsistency) and if he regresses he'll still be above league average.

          Originally posted by CameRoN0407
          I'm looking to get Profar in my Yanks 'chise. How about Fransisco Cervelli and the ever-so-aging Texeria? It works out, trust me!
          Only if you put in A-Rod.

          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
          Uh oh, Jeter's out for a long while....here come the "Profar to the Yanks" trade ideas...
          If only he weren't going to the Blue Jays for J.P. Arencibia and pocket lint to fill in for Reyes.

          No, but seriously, what do you guys think of Profar? I've been meaning to ask about him. My initial thoughts are Sanchez + Osuna + Gose for Profar, if I were to do anything like that.
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          • WaitTilNextYear
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            • Mar 2013
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            #2510
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by CameRoN0407
            I'm looking to get Profar in my Yanks 'chise. How about Fransisco Cervelli and the ever-so-aging Texeria? It works out, trust me!
            Adam Warren and Manny Banuelos for Profar? Is this fair? Realistic?

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            • WaitTilNextYear
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              • Mar 2013
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              #2511
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ACMilan99
              If only he weren't going to the Blue Jays for J.P. Arencibia and pocket lint to fill in for Reyes.

              No, but seriously, what do you guys think of Profar? I've been meaning to ask about him. My initial thoughts are Sanchez + Osuna + Gose for Profar, if I were to do anything like that.
              Well I think Profar is the best prospect in baseball (I know shocking).

              That is quite a good haul, all three are blue-chippers. I feel it's in the ballpark definitely.

              Do you think the Rangers might want someone like Stroman or a 1B prospect in there also to put it over the top? (does Toronto have any good 1B prospects?) Would you be willing to add one of them hypothetically?

              Also, I think Gose is the right choice of outfielder since he's close to ready, but maybe Alford or Davis would intrigue Texas.
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              • CameRoN0407
                It's a New England Thing
                • Oct 2012
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                #2512
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                Adam Warren and Manny Banuelos for Profar? Is this fair? Realistic?

                ...........
                Too much.

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                Hitting?

                He is what he is, he's not proving himself anymore. He's a consistent number #4 with flashes of brilliance (which is mistaken as inconsistency) and if he regresses he'll still be above league average.
                wOBA batting sabermetric. Brilliance? Have you seen 2012 stats?

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                Only if you put in A-Rod.
                Damn, I need him, how about Pettitte? He can lock down number 2 for many, many years.

                If only he weren't going to the Blue Jays for J.P. Arencibia and pocket lint to fill in for Reyes.

                No, but seriously, what do you guys think of Profar? I've been meaning to ask about him. My initial thoughts are Sanchez + Osuna + Gose for Profar, if I were to do anything like that.
                Bautista, can't convince me otherwise. You can get Olt back with him as well as Martin.

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                • AC
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                  #2513
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  Well I think Profar is the best prospect in baseball (I know shocking).

                  That is quite a good haul, all three are blue-chippers. I feel it's in the ballpark definitely.

                  Do you think the Rangers might want someone like Stroman or a 1B prospect in there also to put it over the top? (does Toronto have any good 1B prospects?) Would you be willing to add one of them hypothetically?

                  Also, I think Gose is the right choice of outfielder since he's close to ready, but maybe Alford or Davis would intrigue Texas.
                  1B.. hm.. not really, haha. I can definitely throw in Alford, though. Or maybe Bonifacio would be better utilized by an organization that isn't run by idiots.

                  Originally posted by CameRoN0407
                  wOBA batting sabermetric. Brilliance? Have you seen 2012 stats?

                  Damn, I need him, how about Pettitte? He can lock down number 2 for many, many years.

                  Bautista, can't convince me otherwise. You can get Olt back with him as well as Martin.

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                  wOBA AGAINST Norris. It's not how he's hitting lol it's how he's being hit.

                  LOL couple good ones. But Stroman... I like Stroman lol.
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                  • CameRoN0407
                    It's a New England Thing
                    • Oct 2012
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                    #2514
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ACMilan99
                    1B.. hm.. not really, haha. I can definitely throw in Alford, though. Or maybe Bonifacio would be better utilized by an organization that isn't run by idiots.
                    Downing your own team before May

                    Originally posted by ACMilan99
                    wOBA AGAINST Norris. It's not how he's hitting lol it's how he's being hit.
                    Oh, OK, I was scratching my head on that one.

                    LOL couple good ones. But Stroman... I like Stroman lol.
                    I would've to. Gosh darn Jays.
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                    • AC
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                      #2515
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by CameRoN0407
                      Downing your own team before May

                      Oh, OK, I was scratching my head on that one.

                      I would've to. Gosh darn Jays.
                      Hey, I'm not downing us YET. I'm seeing us beat the Yankees on Saturday. If we lose, though, "headline: guy throws himself off of 500 levels at Rogers Centre after Yankees win"

                      Yeah, he's been quite good.

                      I think Alford's a nice fit there instead of Stroman. Similar ceilings, CF's more valuable, and hey, in a video game, Alford can't decide to go play football instead lol.
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                      • CameRoN0407
                        It's a New England Thing
                        • Oct 2012
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                        #2516
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ACMilan99
                        Hey, I'm not downing us YET. I'm seeing us beat the Yankees on Saturday. If we lose, though, "headline: guy throws himself off of 500 levels at Rogers Centre after Yankees win"
                        Don't know if it was appropriate but I laughed, alot.

                        Originally posted by ACMilan99
                        I think Alford's a nice fit there instead of Stroman. Similar ceilings, CF's more valuable, and hey, in a video game, Alford can't decide to go play football instead lol.
                        Eh, I guess considering their desperate need for an OF of OF 'spect. As for Stroman, 2 ****ing picks.
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                        • jayhawkblue
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                          • Aug 2011
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                          #2517
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          So here are a few trade ideas I came up with for Bud Norris:

                          Rangers get: Bud Norris
                          Astros get: SP Martin Perez (High B) and RP Roman Mendez (Mid C)

                          Yankees get: Bud Norris and RP Joe Musgrove (Mid C)
                          Astros get: CF Slade Heathcott (High B) and SP Brett Marshall (High C)

                          Red Sox get: Bud Norris and SP Cameron Lamb (High C)
                          Astros get: OF Bryce Brentz (Mid B) and SP Pat Light (Low B)

                          Royals get: Bud Norris
                          Astros get: SP John Lamb (Mid-Hi B) and RP Donnie Joseph (Low B)


                          So what do you guys think? Which deal is the fairest/most realistic? Should I be getting more for Norris or less?

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                          • CameRoN0407
                            It's a New England Thing
                            • Oct 2012
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                            #2518
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by jayhawkblue
                            So here are a few trade ideas I came up with for Bud Norris:

                            Rangers get: Bud Norris
                            Astros get: SP Martin Perez (High B) and RP Roman Mendez (Mid C)

                            youre getting too much in return. Perez has A potential ability, and they wouldn't give him up for a solid back of the rotation guy.

                            Yankees get: Bud Norris and RP Joe Musgrove (Mid C)
                            Astros get: CF Slade Heathcott (High B) and SP Brett Marshall (High C)

                            I don't see the yanks going after him as they have a rather descent rotation.

                            Red Sox get: Bud Norris and SP Cameron Lamb (High C)
                            Astros get: OF Bryce Brentz (Mid B) and SP Pat Light (Low B)

                            No, no.

                            Royals get: Bud Norris
                            Astros get: SP John Lamb (Mid-Hi B) and RP Donnie Joseph (Low B)

                            Not a fan of this too much. Lamb is the Royals top pitching prospect now, and they wouldn't trade him for a 27 y/o back-of-th-rotation guy.

                            So what do you guys think? Which deal is the fairest/most realistic? Should I be getting more for Norris or less?
                            Overall: you're overvaluing him. I'd say mid B and low-mid C.
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                            • AC
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                              #2519
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by CameRoN0407
                              Don't know if it was appropriate but I laughed, alot.

                              Eh, I guess considering their desperate need for an OF of OF 'spect. As for Stroman, 2 ****ing picks.
                              Laughing is 99% of the time awesome.

                              A Gentry/Martin platoon is underrated but Murphy seems like he'll be gone soon and so does Cruz. Both in my opinion.

                              Originally posted by jayhawkblue
                              So here are a few trade ideas I came up with for Bud Norris:

                              Rangers get: Bud Norris
                              Astros get: SP Martin Perez (High B) and RP Roman Mendez (Mid C)

                              Slightly too much

                              Yankees get: Bud Norris and RP Joe Musgrove (Mid C)
                              Astros get: CF Slade Heathcott (High B) and SP Brett Marshall (High C)

                              Fine.

                              Red Sox get: Bud Norris and SP Cameron Lamb (High C)
                              Astros get: OF Bryce Brentz (Mid B) and SP Pat Light (Low B)

                              Absolutely nothing wrong with this.

                              Royals get: Bud Norris
                              Astros get: SP John Lamb (Mid-Hi B) and RP Donnie Joseph (Low B)

                              Absolutely nothing wrong with this.

                              So what do you guys think? Which deal is the fairest/most realistic? Should I be getting more for Norris or less?
                              Personally, I like your trades.
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                              • jayhawkblue
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                                • Aug 2011
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                                #2520
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Would Justin Grimm and Roman Mendez for Norris be a fairer deal?

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