2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[nowitsourtime]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So the giants have offered me Kyle Crick for Curtis Granderson in one trade and also offered me Crick for Gardner in another trade. If I was to do either one I would do the Granderson one but who else can I add in the trade to make if more realistic. Sanchez and Williams are untouchable.

Realistically, the Giants aren't giving you Crick. Only player I see the Giants trading him or is Cano and that's not a fit.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm just trying to get a deal ready in case the phillies don't trade him, and at the moment it doesn't look like th phillies are going to trade him. And he's 7-2 with. 1.98 Era now

Hmmm, so if the Phillies DON'T deal Lee, then you're looking to make a deal, possibly with Texas? But if they DO trade him, you'll just replicate the exact trade? Am I understanding this right?

Either way, you want to deal him, correct?

[CKW11]

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Yup, perfectly fair trade IMO

Speaking on Pastornicky would a trade with STL for Descalso straight up be fair? STL doesn't have Furcal and Kozma is out for 1-2 months.

I'm not at my ps at the moment but Pastor has been in AAA all year and Descalso is hitting somewhere around the .240 range.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Not really on topic, but I'll make it brief. We're about +2,000 posts up on the trade thread from this time last year. Even if subtracting every post that has Mike Olt, Starlin Castro, Tyler Colvin, Cargo, or PEDs that's a pretty large margin.

[AC]

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I love this thread. <3

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Speaking on Pastornicky would a trade with STL for Descalso straight up be fair? STL doesn't have Furcal and Kozma is out for 1-2 months.

I'm not at my ps at the moment but Pastor has been in AAA all year and Descalso is hitting somewhere around the .240 range.

That's fine. Swapping two quad A middle infielders who are about the same age is no biggie either way. You have my blessing.

[AC]

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That's fine. Swapping two quad A middle infielders who are about the same age is no biggie either way. You have my blessing.

I just dunno what the incentive is for either team, really.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I just dunno what the incentive is for either team, really.

Me neither, but CKW11 wants to do it, so that's motive enough for me.

I figure Descalso's stats are a little bit better and Pastornicky is 3 years younger, so, meh? They're both dirt-cheap and will make nothing in arbitration. So idk.

I tend to err on the side of encouraging people to make deals when they're small ones. For larger deals, the stakes go up and the rules get more stringent. I couldn't live with myself if I encouraged someone to do a trade that ultimately made them give up on a 'chise! (not really, but still...)

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I just dunno what the incentive is for either team, really.

More on that...I think Descalso is more of a 2B (could be useful to ATL if Uggla is sucking or traded) and Pastornicky is more SS (though not great by any stretch) and could be useful to STL with a rash of injuries at SS. That's my guess anyway.

[AC]

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The lack of incentive due to it really being a lateral move isn't enough for me to not bless the trade (double negative FOR. THE. WINNNNN), I just think it slightly knocks off the realism aspect.

[CKW11]

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I just dunno what the incentive is for either team, really.

The Cards get a SS (not a very good one, but he's passable). I desperately need a SecondBaseman and an improvement on defense. And I feel like Descalso is a perfect fit for the team I'm trying to build.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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The lack of incentive due to it really being a lateral move isn't enough for me to not bless the trade (double negative FOR. THE. WINNNNN), I just think it slightly knocks off the realism aspect.

Idk. You can always find some small motivation in any deal. For a small piece to give up, the motivation can be pretty dang small, like $40k in int'l bonus cash as we're seeing this year.

I spot 3 forms of the negative there. Your statement was even more genius than you realized! The lack of something (a negative) wasn't enough for you not to....lol. I like it.

[AC]

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The Cards get a SS (not a very good one, but he's passable). I desperately need a SecondBaseman and an improvement on defense. And I feel like Descalso is a perfect fit for the team I'm trying to build.

I don't think he's an upgrade on Kozma, but it's a fine trade atc.

[CKW11]

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The lack of incentive due to it really being a lateral move isn't enough for me to not bless the trade (double negative FOR. THE. WINNNNN), I just think it slightly knocks off the realism aspect.

Ahhhhh I'm real big on realism and I really want Descalso. I took a gamble earlier in the season and traded Uggla to the O's for Brian Roberts. Roberts is struggling and only playing like 3 games a week.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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The Cards get a SS (not a very good one, but he's passable). I desperately need a SecondBaseman and an improvement on defense. And I feel like Descalso is a perfect fit for the team I'm trying to build.

Kinda what I figured after thinking beyond 2 scrubby INF being exchanged. Both could give you a smidge over replacement level to tread water until the teams can get a more permanent fix.

I guess the question is...since Pastornicky can probably play 2B (SS have cross-functionality like that), has Descalso ever played SS for any length of time (maybe in the minors)? If it's possible to just flip positions for them, the trade might not be needed (though may not be possible in the Show).