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  • Totte
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 2919

    #7291
    Originally posted by kmoser
    I know I keep asking for you guys opinions on these last trades but please bear with me lol. I really want to aquire Gerardo Parra but I don't know who to trade. I was thinking Domingo Santana or Jimmy Paredes + Philip Humber +Justin Maxwell. Opinions?
    Humber doesn't have any true trade value but Santana and Harrell for Parra could work. Paredes and Maxwell carries some trade value but not something Arizona would be all over IMO
    Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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    • kmoser
      MVP
      • Jul 2012
      • 1398

      #7292
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Totte
      Humber doesn't have any true trade value but Santana and Harrell for Parra could work. Paredes and Maxwell carries some trade value but not something Arizona would be all over IMO
      Ok. I looked at there SP's and they are way overloaded on them. Think they would trade one since that have too many of them? I was looking at Delgado but I just want a young decent pitcher and they have plenty of those.

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      • Totte
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 2919

        #7293
        2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by kmoser
        Ok. I looked at there SP's and they are way overloaded on them. Think they would trade one since that have too many of them? I was looking at Delgado but I just want a young decent pitcher and they have plenty of those.
        I could only see them parting with someone like Skaggs, Delgado, Miley, Corbin, Holmberg, Brewer or Bradley if you part with Norris or JD Martinez for them (or Jonathan Singleton, Carlos Correa, Jarred Cosart or Russ Springer of course)

        Edit: They could use a 3B prospect though so Rio Ruiz maybe? Or Matt Dominguez if you feel like they could use him at 3B right away with Prado moving to LF or 2B (if Hill is out with injury?)
        Last edited by Totte; 07-09-2013, 10:27 AM.
        Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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        • kmoser
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 1398

          #7294
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Totte
          I could only see them parting with someone like Skaggs, Delgado, Miley, Corbin, Holmberg, Brewer or Bradley if you part with Norris or JD Martinez for them (or Jonathan Singleton, Carlos Correa, Jarred Cosart or Russ Springer of course)

          Edit: They could use a 3B prospect though so Rio Ruiz maybe? Or Matt Dominguez if you feel like they could use him at 3B right away with Prado moving to LF or 2B (if Hill is out with injury?)
          I'm not at my ps3 right now but are all these guys B potentials? If so would there value be a high or mid B. I just want to know which one is the best to get.

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          • nowitsourtime
            Banned
            • Oct 2011
            • 876

            #7295
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            The Diamondbacks have a lot of pitching depth, no doubt. But I think they'd move the pitchers for a bat rather than another arm like Norris (The arm would have to be a top of the rotation starter they can pair with Ian Kennedy).

            I don't realistically see Skaggs, Bradley, Corbin or Delgado going to Houston. They really don't have any prospects that would wow them enough to give up Skaggs or Bradley. Corbin is having his breakout year and Delgado was just recently acquired (Although if you don't regard player performance IRL, I can see Corbin in an Astros uni, Just ask WTNY )

            In terms of needs, I would say Middle Infield and Corner OF are where they can use some extra prospects. There's nothing at 2B behind Aaron Hill. Kubel and Ross are really nothing special (Kubel has a good bat, but his fielding is um... well...) I don't think 3B is a particularly pressing need with Prado's extension and Matt Davidson looking like he can man the 3B position in the future.

            So for Parra, I like Santana and Harrell because the Dbacks love their Sinkerballers...

            Now that I think of it... Parra and Corbin for Delino DeShields Jr, Santana and maybe Harrell? I don't know how highly the Astros value Deshields. Maybe you can replace Santana with a lower prospect but I think DeShields would have to be in a deal for Parra and Corbin.

            Totte what do you think?

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            • kmoser
              MVP
              • Jul 2012
              • 1398

              #7296
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by nowitsourtime
              The Diamondbacks have a lot of pitching depth, no doubt. But I think they'd move the pitchers for a bat rather than another arm like Norris (The arm would have to be a top of the rotation starter they can pair with Ian Kennedy).

              I don't realistically see Skaggs, Bradley, Corbin or Delgado going to Houston. They really don't have any prospects that would wow them enough to give up Skaggs or Bradley. Corbin is having his breakout year and Delgado was just recently acquired (Although if you don't regard player performance IRL, I can see Corbin in an Astros uni, Just ask WTNY )

              In terms of needs, I would say Middle Infield and Corner OF are where they can use some extra prospects. There's nothing at 2B behind Aaron Hill. Kubel and Ross are really nothing special (Kubel has a good bat, but his fielding is um... well...) I don't think 3B is a particularly pressing need with Prado's extension and Matt Davidson looking like he can man the 3B position in the future.

              So for Parra, I like Santana and Harrell because the Dbacks love their Sinkerballers...

              Now that I think of it... Parra and Corbin for Delino DeShields Jr, Santana and maybe Harrell? I don't know how highly the Astros value Deshields. Maybe you can replace Santana with a lower prospect but I think DeShields would have to be in a deal for Parra and Corbin.

              Totte what do you think?
              I would rather not give up DeShields at leat not yet. I like the idea od Santana+ Harrell for Prado. For Corbin I wouldn't mind giving up Nolan Fontana and Justin Maxwell. If I don't need to put Maxwell in the trade just tell me, but I don't need him if I am getting prado so I just want to get rid of him.

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              • Totte
                MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 2919

                #7297
                Originally posted by nowitsourtime
                The Diamondbacks have a lot of pitching depth, no doubt. But I think they'd move the pitchers for a bat rather than another arm like Norris (The arm would have to be a top of the rotation starter they can pair with Ian Kennedy).

                I don't realistically see Skaggs, Bradley, Corbin or Delgado going to Houston. They really don't have any prospects that would wow them enough to give up Skaggs or Bradley. Corbin is having his breakout year and Delgado was just recently acquired (Although if you don't regard player performance IRL, I can see Corbin in an Astros uni, Just ask WTNY )

                In terms of needs, I would say Middle Infield and Corner OF are where they can use some extra prospects. There's nothing at 2B behind Aaron Hill. Kubel and Ross are really nothing special (Kubel has a good bat, but his fielding is um... well...) I don't think 3B is a particularly pressing need with Prado's extension and Matt Davidson looking like he can man the 3B position in the future.

                So for Parra, I like Santana and Harrell because the Dbacks love their Sinkerballers...

                Now that I think of it... Parra and Corbin for Delino DeShields Jr, Santana and maybe Harrell? I don't know how highly the Astros value Deshields. Maybe you can replace Santana with a lower prospect but I think DeShields would have to be in a deal for Parra and Corbin.

                Totte what do you think?
                Fully agree here. Parra for Santana and Harrell works out nicely.

                Forgot about Davidson at 3B behind Prado and they've got both Chris Owings and Nick Ahmad (acquired in the Upton deal) behind Gregorius. All empty behind Hill on the 2B depth chart so DeShields is a fit right there. There's really no room for DeShields in Houston long term with Altuve at 2B and Correa at SS. An option would be to pull a Billy Hamilton on him and move him to CF but you've got George Springer there.

                Like you said, Corbin is breaking out and is an All Star this year. Actually think Miley would be moved ahead of Corbin (and Skaggs) if we're talking young arms. Question in my mind though is how long can the Snakes keep Cahill around? They've got Kennedy and Hudson is coming back from surgery. Then there's Miley, Skaggs, Corbin plus all the other young arms...and McCarthy...and Cahill. Someone's gotta go which actually made me think now that why in the world would they want Harrell as well?

                Either way...could we do something like Cahill and Parra for Santana, DeShields and Paredes? Paredes could be an option as 2B depth behind Hill and do some OF work while DeShields is grooming in the minors
                Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                • nowitsourtime
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 876

                  #7298
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by kmoser
                  I would rather not give up DeShields at leat not yet. I like the idea od Santana+ Harrell for Prado. For Corbin I wouldn't mind giving up Nolan Fontana and Justin Maxwell. If I don't need to put Maxwell in the trade just tell me, but I don't need him if I am getting prado so I just want to get rid of him.
                  Parra not Prado right?

                  Nolan Fontana? I'm not familiar with the name. Maxwell won't get you Corbin. Going off of the OSFM rosters I use in my franchise (Corbin is an 81 ovr, B pot.), I would say it'd take another mid B to pry him away from Arizona. Maybe Lance McCullers and Wesley Wright? Dbacks could use another lefty arm in the pen.

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                  • Totte
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 2919

                    #7299
                    Originally posted by kmoser
                    I would rather not give up DeShields at leat not yet. I like the idea od Santana+ Harrell for Prado. For Corbin I wouldn't mind giving up Nolan Fontana and Justin Maxwell. If I don't need to put Maxwell in the trade just tell me, but I don't need him if I am getting prado so I just want to get rid of him.
                    Prado ain't going nowhere with his extension. Thought we were discussing Parra?
                    Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                    • Totte
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2919

                      #7300
                      Originally posted by nowitsourtime
                      Parra not Prado right?

                      Nolan Fontana? I'm not familiar with the name. Maxwell won't get you Corbin. Going off of the OSFM rosters I use in my franchise (Corbin is an 81 ovr, B pot.), I would say it'd take another mid B to pry him away from Arizona. Maybe Lance McCullers and Wesley Wright? Dbacks could use another lefty arm in the pen.
                      Yes Wesley Wright is a perfect fit for AZ. KT loves his solid bullpen guys
                      Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                      • kmoser
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 1398

                        #7301
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by nowitsourtime
                        Parra not Prado right?

                        Nolan Fontana? I'm not familiar with the name. Maxwell won't get you Corbin. Going off of the OSFM rosters I use in my franchise (Corbin is an 81 ovr, B pot.), I would say it'd take another mid B to pry him away from Arizona. Maybe Lance McCullers and Wesley Wright? Dbacks could use another lefty arm in the pen.
                        Oh lol yea parra I always get their names mixed up. Fontana is a mid B SS

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                        • nowitsourtime
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 876

                          #7302
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Totte
                          Fully agree here. Parra for Santana and Harrell works out nicely.

                          Forgot about Davidson at 3B behind Prado and they've got both Chris Owings and Nick Ahmad (acquired in the Upton deal) behind Gregorius. All empty behind Hill on the 2B depth chart so DeShields is a fit right there. There's really no room for DeShields in Houston long term with Altuve at 2B and Correa at SS. An option would be to pull a Billy Hamilton on him and move him to CF but you've got George Springer there.

                          Like you said, Corbin is breaking out and is an All Star this year. Actually think Miley would be moved ahead of Corbin (and Skaggs) if we're talking young arms. Question in my mind though is how long can the Snakes keep Cahill around? They've got Kennedy and Hudson is coming back from surgery. Then there's Miley, Skaggs, Corbin plus all the other young arms...and McCarthy...and Cahill. Someone's gotta go which actually made me think now that why in the world would they want Harrell as well?

                          Either way...could we do something like Cahill and Parra for Santana, DeShields and Paredes? Paredes could be an option as 2B depth behind Hill and do some OF work while DeShields is grooming in the minors
                          Well, poo. Can't throw in DeShields if OP doesn't want to give him up. Although I was thinking about the filled spots at 2B and SS.

                          As for the SP situation, Cahill is still under a team-friendly contract for 3 more years and was actually performing very well (better than Jarrod Parker) until he started struggling in June. I honestly think Hudson would be the first to go. Big risk coming off of surgery and I think they'll get rid of him because he's arbitration eligible once he gets back. Would Miley go? I'm not sure. Fans here seem to like him and he would've won ROY if it weren't for the fact that Harper is a future superstar.

                          I think the order the Dbacks would get rid of the pitchers would be Hudson, McCarthy than Cahill and Miley later on.

                          Who knows how Skaggs, Delgado, Bradley will fare pitching in the majors full time so it's always nice to have pitching depth. I bet many teams wish they had the problem with young pitching like the Snakes do :wink:

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                          • nowitsourtime
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 876

                            #7303
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by kmoser
                            Oh lol yea parra I always get their names mixed up. Fontana is a mid B SS
                            I think I'd still go with McCullers and Wright for Corbin. Gregorius and Owings are also at the SS position for Arizona

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                            • kmoser
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1398

                              #7304
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by nowitsourtime
                              Well, poo. Can't throw in DeShields if OP doesn't want to give him up. Although I was thinking about the filled spots at 2B and SS.

                              As for the SP situation, Cahill is still under a team-friendly contract for 3 more years and was actually performing very well (better than Jarrod Parker) until he started struggling in June. I honestly think Hudson would be the first to go. Big risk coming off of surgery and I think they'll get rid of him because he's arbitration eligible once he gets back. Would Miley go? I'm not sure. Fans here seem to like him and he would've won ROY if it weren't for the fact that Harper is a future superstar.

                              I think the order the Dbacks would get rid of the pitchers would be Hudson, McCarthy than Cahill and Miley later on.

                              Who knows how Skaggs, Delgado, Bradley will fare pitching in the majors full time so it's always nice to have pitching depth. I bet many teams wish they had the problem with young pitching like the Snakes do :wink:
                              Ok I think I will go through with this trade:
                              Deshields, Harrell, Santana for Parra and Corbin.

                              I still would mind getting rid of Maxwell so what team would he be a good fit at?

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                              • Totte
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 2919

                                #7305
                                Originally posted by kmoser
                                Ok I think I will go through with this trade:
                                Deshields, Harrell, Santana for Parra and Corbin.

                                I still would mind getting rid of Maxwell so what team would he be a good fit at?
                                Possible fits for Maxwell: NYM for Jenrry Mejia or to MIN for Burton/Parmelee?
                                Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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