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I definitely like the velocity drop on aging pitchers.
It adds something to think about when giving that guy a shot at the club or signing that guy hanging on for a 1 year FA deal.
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Two comments... Nice attention to detail by SCEA. And is there anything you haven't tested?Slowly over time, the speed is highly dependent on your training method. I ran a couple of tests and it can happen any time during a player's mid-twenties onward if it is neglected. For the younger guys (under 35) they lose roughly 3 points which translates to ~.7 mph, which is the standard loss per year in real life as well.
I hope I'm playing MLB 2049 when I'm 70.
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I'll probably die with a Play Station controller in my hand
Well, I use Senior Mode, err, Beginner Mode. I prefer to call it Senior Mode ;-)Comment
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Does anybody know if the "Stamina" rating for pitchers increases or decreases with progression/regression?Cleveland Browns
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I finished spring training and noticed some older starting pitchers did have their stamina rating decreased, and some younger pitchers, Cole Hamels for one, did have their stamina rating increased.Comment
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When I tested it ( ran 7 sim seasons ) I had Darren Oliver going down to 0 stamina. Yes zero.
I should give it a try to see how that translate when playing with him though.Comment
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I've never seen that in a game, zero stamina. I guess he's good for maybe 5 pitches or one batter at most!Comment
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I have konerko with 0 speed and 0 base running ability. Guy is on his last legs, but raking in the 2015 playoffs for me.Comment
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Mo hasn't lost 5mph a year off of his cutter has he? So how is that realistic?
I'm a little bit puzzled as to why this wasn't noticed pre-release in testing? I've only been playing on Franchise on 2013 for 30 minutes and have seen the ridiculous loss of ability from older players. (After a 2 hour long bloody draft)....
Some decline - sure. But falling off a cliff? Need's more than a tweak. Perhaps older players with Potentials of A should decrease less than players with B,C's etc.
Jeter at the age of 37 hit .316, Mo through his late thirties was still dominate with a +90 mph cutter that didn't drop drastically. Berkman hit 31 homers at a .301 clip at 35. It cannot be a straight drop for all players. Otherwise (as others have said), playing with the Yankees is impossible.
All of this said - the basics of the system are by far the best progression we have seen. Just needs to be toned down a little in terms of progression and toned down a lot in terms of regression.Last edited by themuel1; 03-22-2013, 08:37 PM.Comment
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Didn't Berkman also hit .185 or something like that the year before?Mo hasn't lost 5mph a year off of his cutter has he? So how is that realistic?
I'm a little bit puzzled as to why this wasn't noticed pre-release in testing? I've only been playing on Franchise on 2013 for 30 minutes and have seen the ridiculous loss of ability from older players. (After a 2 hour long bloody draft)....
Some decline - sure. But falling off a cliff? Need's more than a tweak. Perhaps older players with Potentials of A should decrease less than players with B,C's etc.
Jeter at the age of 37 hit .316, Mo through his late thirties was still dominate with a +90 mph cutter that didn't drop drastically. Berkman hit 31 homers at a .301 clip at 35. It cannot be a straight drop for all players. Otherwise (as others have said), playing with the Yankees is impossible.
All of this said - the basics of the system are by far the best progression we have seen. Just needs to be toned down a little in terms of progression and toned down a lot in terms of regression.
Seriously though I agree with you. The decline is too sharp at the moment but we'll have to see what we get after the patch
At least now it's feasible to trade veterans for prospects when they hit their 30s. Before it didn't really matter how old they were.
I think for next years game there needs to be a 'development curve' option like in Pro Evolution Soccer. Options like 'Early Peak' (can't think of an example), 'Early/lasting' (Derek Jeter), 'Normal' (Mark DeRosa) 'Normal/Lasting' (Omar Vizquel) 'Late Peak' (R.A. Dickey) and 'late/lasting' (Mariano Rivera, Tim Wakefield)
In PES there were also some players who reached a peak at 20 or so, then regressed a bit in their early 20s and then reached a second peak in their late 20s. Maybe these types of progression options would give us the chance to tell the computer that guys like Dickey, Wakefield and Konerko shouldn't regress as quickly as other players for instance.
The only problem I see with this is nobody can truly predict a player's future. That's all part of the fun though I suppose!Supporting Leeds United, Colorado Rockies, Detroit Lions and the Colorado Avalanche!
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I read on the bug report site that they found the problem regarding regression. Apparently they were penalizing players in two areas rather than just one. It seems they are regressing twice as fast as they should be. This will be fixed.T.K.Comment
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