Has anyone played all of there teams spring training games? As an example, lets say Jeter rakes in the spring, does he still decline as drastically?
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I don't think anyone is dumbfounded that 36+ (not 37+) are dropping. To me the issue is that ALL players 36+ are dropping, and they're dropping over the course of spring training. This means that (and I could be wrong as I've only done one franchise) as seasons go on, you will see each and every 36+ year old decline every single spring and/or offseason. Personally, I want to see realistic progression AND regression, so yes I have an issue with this.Comment
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Sounds terrible, definetly a deal break for me.
And Dickey being at 68 at the end of the season?
From reading the posts there is not much variation, all players over 36 regress, I would like it to be unpredictable, some guys regressing earlier some later, some slowly, others fast. And maybe a few who are even improving after regressing
Found this Bug report concerning the player progression on The Show Nation, Vote for it guys, maybe it can be adjusted!
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Im in 2015 of my RTTS and checked around the league. Age is HUGE deal with ratings now. I LOVE this. Just cant on same roster year after year. Basically i see guys 35 + drop fast. I have no problem with this since thats usually true. Sometimes there is a exception but love this change for the gameComment
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Sounds terrible, definetly a deal break for me.
And Dickey being at 68 at the end of the season?
From reading the posts there is not much variation, all players over 36 regress, I would like it to be unpredictable, some guys regressing earlier some later, some slowly, others fast. And maybe a few who are even improving after regressing
Found this Bug report concerning the player progression on The Show Nation, Vote for it guys, maybe it can be adjusted!
http://www.theshownation.com/bug_reports/10216
I'm thinking the developers intended for the drastic decline of old players, so I don't believe it should be classified as a "bug".
I think the "end spring training" option is a good one to bypass it before the first season, since that would be a little much. (I did this while messing around in my Cubs 'chise and no one progressed/regressed)
But I have no problem with it starting in year 2. It will create more of a dynamic league imo.
However I do share the thoughts that I wish it was a bit more random, but I'll definitely take this over a 'chise where 43 year old players have the same ratings from when they were 35.Cubs
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Yes it is no bug and it isn't classified there as a bug either but as a "Suggestion". However if a guy really drops that much before season 1 just during one month of spring training I'm close to calling it a bug actually..I'm thinking the developers intended for the drastic decline of old players, so I don't believe it should be classified as a "bug".
I think the "end spring training" option is a good one to bypass it before the first season, since that would be a little much. (I did this while messing around in my Cubs 'chise and no one progressed/regressed)
But I have no problem with it starting in year 2. It will create more of a dynamic league imo.
However I do share the thoughts that I wish it was a bit more random, but I'll definitely take this over a 'chise where 43 year old players have the same ratings from when they were 35.
So the drops in the ratings are only as drastic during offseason and spring training? If I select "end spring training" how will the ratings develope during the regular season?Spending time with Jesus!
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Gotchya, that site is blocked at work so I couldn't read it. My bad for jumping to conclusions. I swear, it was my only option!Yes it is no bug and it isn't classified there as a bug either but as a "Suggestion". However if a guy really drops that much before season 1 just during one month of spring training I'm close to calling it a bug actually..
So the drops in the ratings are only as drastic during offseason and spring training? If I select "end spring training" how will the ratings develope during the regular season?
Yeah, I just hit "end spring training" right at the beginning of my test franchise with the Cubs, and nobody's overall ratings had moved +/- from their defaults. I only played the first series so I can't attest for progression throughout the season though. And I also didn't look at the problem teams (Yankees...and um Yankess lol) to see if their players had remained the same as well.
Anyone available to start up a franchise, hit "end spring training" and see if the ratings for the "problem" players remain the same?
The ratings decline happening after/during S.T. before your second season would make more sense.Cubs
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Ok, thanks for the info!Gotchya, that site is blocked at work so I couldn't read it. My bad for jumping to conclusions. I swear, it was my only option!
Yeah, I just hit "end spring training" right at the beginning of my test franchise with the Cubs, and nobody's overall ratings had moved +/- from their defaults. I only played the first series so I can't attest for progression throughout the season though. And I also didn't look at the problem teams (Yankees...and um Yankess lol) to see if their players had remained the same as well.
Anyone available to start up a franchise, hit "end spring training" and see if the ratings for the "problem" players remain the same?
The ratings decline happening after/during S.T. before your second season would make more sense.
I'm wondering if with that current progression/regression system there is a chance that we will have players like Mariano Rivera in future years of your franchise, like that one exceptional player who is still going strong over 40 and maybe also somebody like RA Dickey who has his prime with 36.Spending time with Jesus!
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It'd be nice for it to be a bit more randomized. Ultimately, I'd rather have the dropoff than not though. Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good, or something like that.Ok, thanks for the info!
I'm wondering if with that current progression/regression system there is a chance that we will have players like Mariano Rivera in future years of your franchise, like that one exceptional player who is still going strong over 40 and maybe also somebody like RA Dickey who has his prime with 36.
I can look into this a bit more when I get home, but I think I read others echoing the same sentiment about the "end spring training" workaround for the initial S.T. period.Cubs
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Is there an HGH option cheat code to prevent the old guys from declining?
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I think it's cause you are auto training players... Manually train players and I doubt we will get that bad of regression. Like in spring training switch the focus every week. In the season go every 2 or 3 weeks. On auto it just focuses on one set of attributes I noticed in my chise last night.Beavers|Red Sox|Buccaneers|NBA HoopsComment
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As a Met fan, I have seen plenty of guys go from really god (Alomar, Bay, etc) to useless in one year. If that was reflected in the Show, their numbers would drop drastically. I kind of like the idea. I know that it's a little odd after spring training, but I will think twice about signing/trading for a guy that may be getting up in age and may decline fast.
It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.Comment
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Worth looking into.I think it's cause you are auto training players... Manually train players and I doubt we will get that bad of regression. Like in spring training switch the focus every week. In the season go every 2 or 3 weeks. On auto it just focuses on one set of attributes I noticed in my chise last night.
What if you go through 2 or 3 spring training games...and then "end spring training". Do you still see a steep decline, a smaller decline or none at all?Comment
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I understand the thought process behind it. I also understand that it is hard to get something 100% the first time you try it. However, just a sweeping reduction in the ratings of everyone over the age of 36 hardly seems like a reasonable solution.
I agree that it is better than having guys age to be 40 years old and keep their rating at 90 until they retire. That is annoying. But I'm playing a Blue Jays franchise and arguably my best rotation member(Dickey) and best bullpen pitcher(Darren Oliver) keep declining very rapidly. Now, maybe they are both going to fall off a cliff in real life this year, who knows? But, Darren Oliver has been a great pitcher for many years, and he has been old for awhile. Dickey has been great the past 3 season and is the defending Cy Young winner.
I shouldn't have to keep tweaking their stats to keep them reasonable. It makes me feel like I am cheating the game. I'm fine with Dickey declining and ending the year as an 80-85 pitcher. He is old and in the AL now, not an easy combo. But dropping 15-20 points right out of spring training? It is silly.Comment

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