first pitch meatballs....bug?

[trammaker]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

@dkrause1971: nope, didn't change anything else. Just switched my pitching interface to Pulse and my fielding back to Button (starting from the Expert defaults), and saved that as a custom User Setting. Otherwise, just the one slider adjustment to CPU Strike Frequency.

Sorry I'm not of more help!

[jmik58]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

I am proud to report that the bug report I opened in the official show forum has the 4th most votes by the users and has been sent to AI department by the devs to be addressed in future updates.

So soon we will know if it is an issue AND if it is we will have a fix.

See Here:http://theshownation.com/bug_reports/10318

This should put an end to the debate...once SCEA confirms or debunks this bug.

Glad to see this. Hopefully they visit this thread (which you provided) to get more specifics on it.

[DrUrsus]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Hey all,

Haven't posted in a while. Saw this thread and was like "oh no. Wish I didn't read that! Hope this isn't so cause if it is, it's a game killer til patched."

Anyway, played a couple of games today since I was home. For whatever reason, I do not seem to have the "bug". Happened in my first 2 innings that I had middle of the plate strikes and then thinking I had the "bug". I was swinging out of my shoes only to have a fastball way low and outside. Further batting had them pitch me change ups very low and some other bad first pitches to start each inning. So far so good. Haven't read every page of the thread, so if I see anything different will post back.

Just FYI
I have the retail version, loaded the 10gb version and chose Expert. Before starting my franchise I made veteran my default (haven't played much the last couple of years) and loaded my sliders. Just practicing now basically using veteran with default sliders at this time in Franchise mode 32 team control no injuries. Use meter pitching for myself. Definitely raking again at this level and will have to increase difficulty.

Edit: I may have chose experienced, don't know for sure.
Also I don't get ANY stuttering during game play. My menu music stutters however. Playing on the very first original launch PS3, updated to newest firmware.

[DrUrsus]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Just wanted to clarify. I believe you guys have an issue. The question is why do some have it and others don't. Must have something to do with install, settings, or something along those lines.

[DrUrsus]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Yesterday, my daughter who is 8 years old wanted to play practice pitching so I put the settings to beginner. After that she wanted to play HR derby. After it was done I noticed the settings went back to my custom 1 Veteran setting which I made my default. Not sure if its supposed to do that. So she actually was playing HR derby on that and not beginner after all.

Just FYI. Don't know if it has anything to do with this thread. If not, sorry for the post.

Hope it gets patched.

[SA1NT401]

If this is a "bug" I ain't seeing it. Do some pitchers throw a lot of first pitch strikes? Yup. Is it at an unrealistic rate? Nope.

I play I franchise with all teams but control 3. Don't see the issue all the time and the certainly ain't all meatballs.

Last 3 games scores.

5-2. 4-1. 6-5. Won 1 lost 2.

Not a franchise issue.

[orion523]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

I've been looking for this and haven't found one. Let us know if you do.

Retrosheet supposedly has this data somewhere as does Pitchfx but I couldn't find where LOL. I did find some At Baseball Reference however as well as The Hardball Times. Here's what I got.

0-0 59% strikes

0-2 28% strikes

3-2 59% strikes

3-0 65% strikes(very surprising!)

[metal134]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

If this is a "bug" I ain't seeing it. Do some pitchers throw a lot of first pitch strikes? Yup. Is it at an unrealistic rate? Nope.

I play I franchise with all teams but control 3. Don't see the issue all the time and the certainly ain't all meatballs.

Last 3 games scores.

5-2. 4-1. 6-5. Won 1 lost 2.

Not a franchise issue.

Ah, the old "If I'm not seeing it, then no one else must be" argument. Hey, everyone, call it off. Saint401 isn't seeing the issue so we're all delusional.

[SA1NT401]

Ah, the old "If I'm not seeing it, then no one else must be" argument. Hey, everyone, call it off. Saint401 isn't seeing the issue so we're all delusional.

Dude, what are u like 5. Trying to find actual scenarios in this thread is painful.

From my experience, I ain't seeing it. Doesnt mean it isnt rhere. But with no real specifics to game mode, teams players etc. i cant say its an isdue for ME. Now go pound sand.

[metal134]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Dude, what are u like 5.

Well isn't that just the pot calling the kettle black.

[SA1NT401]

Well isn't that just the pot calling the kettle black.

Call me out then surprised by my retort?

Interesting.

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Guys as I mentioned earlier, SCEA has gotten the hint and have their AI team looking into the logic behind strikes vs. balls from the CPU.

They will tell us if it is a bug or not. I think they realized we made enough of a stink, and will now tell us if we are all crazy or if we are on to something....no need to insult each other because we don't agree (although it is rather entertaining).

[ChubbyBanana]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

metal134 & SA1NT401 Knock it Off.

No need to derail this thread. If you can't discuss the topic without throwing insults and attacks at each other then leave the thread.

[speels]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Retrosheet supposedly has this data somewhere as does Pitchfx but I couldn't find where LOL. I did find some At Baseball Reference however as well as The Hardball Times. Here's what I got.

0-0 59% strikes

0-2 28% strikes

3-2 59% strikes

3-0 65% strikes(very surprising!)

I saw those same numbers and it made me wonder. The issue in this thread is not about all 1st pitches to every batter being a strike down the middle, but rather just the 1st pitch of each inning or each new pitcher. Also, I believe the issue is in RTTS for every at bat. I have done the testing and if you look at all the 1st pitches to everybody in the game, the numbers are very close to those, as I average around 62%.

Perhaos a simple line of code can be changed to make the CPU either less likely to throw a strike, or better placement, or mix up the pitches so it is not always the best pitch. However, until SCEA says there is a problemor not, I will continue to use the workaround and enjoy this fantastic game.

[metal134]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

I'm sure it has something to do with beginner mode.