first pitch meatballs....bug?

[2ndBase]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

They need to patch this. Once you see it, it's a pretty ovious bug.

[orion523]

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Even though I see this...I'm still enjoying the hell out of this game. I'm playing on all star default and in postseason mode and I have had very exciting games. After a while I don't even think about it and am having fun.

In exhibition/franchise/postseason mode the problem really isn't that prevalent because it's mainly just the first pitch of an inning, the bigger issue seems to be RTTS but I can't speak to that because I've yet to try the mode. All of this aside however, yes I do agree its a fantastic baseball game.

[dkrause1971]

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I just posted a bug report with the bug, the workaround and the URL of this thread. Its bug report 10922. If you guys can hammer it with plusses, maybe it will stick out. If any CD guys visit this thread, perhaps you could fast-track it to their attention.

Lets remember to click on the bug report number above. I know with the workaround its not as big of a deal but i know i would like to get them to look at it.

[nomo17k]

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Lets remember to click on the bug report number above. I know with the workaround its not as big of a deal but i know i would like to get them to look at it.

Voted up but report10922.

Thanks for all your effort in the thread, and I'm very sorry for discounting you guys' concern earlier. Now I can see there is an issue (though for me in batting practice only), but I really haven't been able to reproduce the issue on my end even when I tried, so it's been difficult to fairly evaluate the situation.

[bkrich83]

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Lets remember to click on the bug report number above. I know with the workaround its not as big of a deal but i know i would like to get them to look at it.

Done!

10 char.

[Anaxamander]

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Where do you vote on the bug reports? I'm on this page, but I'm not seeing where I vote.

[nomo17k]

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Where do you vote on the bug reports? I'm on this page, but I'm not seeing where I vote.

On the right hand side, you find "Filter Bug Reports." Enter the bug ID and you'll see the report. You'll need to be logged in on the ShowNation site to vote though.

[DetroitStyle]

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I don't really see anything all that different from previous years. The CPU is notorious for throwing first pitch fastballs for strikes. It's been like this for as long as I can remember (all the way back to '08). I don't really know if they're "meatballs" though since they're not always straight down the middle, but fairly close.

I wouldn't mind seeing a change or patch to allow the cpu to throw other pitches more frequently on the first pitch.

A good way to test whether or not its really a "meatball" issue is to set a curveball or changeup to "99" across the board so it's their best pitch. Also, take their fastball and drop it "0" accross the board. Then play some random games and see if they still throw the terrible fastball down the middle as a "meatball" on first pitches. If they start throwing the curveball down the middle you'll know it's an issue with their "primary" pitch being used as a meatball pitch on first pitches rather than strictly a fastball issue.

[dkrause1971]

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I don't really see anything all that different from previous years. The CPU is notorious for throwing first pitch fastballs for strikes. It's been like this for as long as I can remember (all the way back to '08). I don't really know if they're "meatballs" though since they're not always straight down the middle, but fairly close.

I wouldn't mind seeing a change or patch to allow the cpu to throw other pitches more frequently on the first pitch.

A good way to test whether or not its really a "meatball" issue is to set a curveball or changeup to "99" across the board so it's their best pitch. Also, take their fastball and drop it "0" accross the board. Then play some random games and see if they still throw the terrible fastball down the middle as a "meatball" on first pitches. If they start throwing the curveball down the middle you'll know it's an issue with their "primary" pitch being used as a meatball pitch on first pitches rather than strictly a fastball issue.

Not everyone is getting the issue, maybe you are not. Nomo isn't, but many of us are. Its clear if you are. Many, many examples in the thread

[rob1217]

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So I've played 3 full games and then first few innings of 2 or 3 others to test this out...

I really hate to cry wolf, but this seems to be a pretty consistent issue. The CPU throws first pitch strikes on nearly every at-bat. I'm not talking just strikes, I'm talking outright, fastball meatballs. My study isn't scientific, and I don't have an exact count, but especially in the first few innings this is a problem. The first pitch of the ball game has been a meatball every game. You can literally sit on the first pitch and hammer it.

I have yet to tease out whether the CPU can adapt, but its a problem that I can jump out to an easy, fat lead.

Anyone else experiencing this? This strikes me as a huge problem.

Just got The Show today and applied the update and I see what your saying...it definitely seems like every first pitch no matter who's on the mound will throw a "get me over" first pitch...even Verlander.

[nomo17k]

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For those guys who have this issue, how did you create your initial profile? Beginner? Or didn't create?

I started with Expert and then customized to my liking. Never had the issue.

Just trying to see if we did anything differently.

[jcern23]

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Not everyone is getting the issue, maybe you are not. Nomo isn't, but many of us are. Its clear if you are. Many, many examples in the thread

Wow its amazing to me how obvious of a bug this is going so iffy on these boards. I mean were talkin about a game that has nailed realism to a T on previous versions and this is a kind of been tossed around like a possibility. I have been playing the show for a long time and refuse to start 13 until this is patched. I have no prob goin back to 12 if its not its a real bad one not even close to mvps lefty bug but enough to wait imo

[metal134]

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not even close to mvps lefty bug but enough to wait imo

I remember that one. That one was SO frustrating because a LOT of people just flat out refused to recognize it as an issue until the developers flat out said, "yeah, we know about it" and issued a patch.

[nomo17k]

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I wasn't trying to deny the existence of problem though. I just have not been able to replicate the problem on my games at all... .... nd there were some overlap with the discussion as to how CPU in the game tends to pound strike zone (which it does at times)... which made things totally confusing.

... a bug is something to be found and reported, but AI adjustment talkes totally a different level of process....

[Bobhead]

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For those guys who have this issue, how did you create your initial profile? Beginner? Or didn't create?

I started with Expert and then customized to my liking. Never had the issue.

Just trying to see if we did anything differently.

Beginner is how I uh... began. I never finished it I don't think, I got bored somewhere around beginner rank 5/6, and switched to All-Star, then Hall of Fame.