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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #1696
    Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

    Originally posted by wookie48
    Man, I was gonna do every player tit for tat, but man...for players that wont ev er see the league like some of the trenton guys named above its just a fan base request. Nothin wrong with that at all its just time wasted IMO. Hopefully that wasnt abrasive, it probably was so I apologize, you rock BTW knight...you old man LOL (I Raise a glass of scotch to you man)
    Ha....no need to apologize.....(and let's make it a club soda! )....
    I think next year, if you're still thinking of staying in the roster making business, we combine forces. It would save us both a ton of work and/or aggrevation. Between all of us(WAY TOO MANY TO MENTION).....it would make for a great set. I know you said you offered...but a. I don't remember(the old man thing remember?!...and I get a BLIZZARD of e-mails around that time)....and b. I didn't think anyone was that dedicated(which you OBVIOUSLY are!)....so I raise the glass right back to ya...

    ...and as for every other player that won't see the light of the MLB...I just gotta make them. I try to play games...and just knowing that there are fake guys playing my minor league games at the same time...makes me want to shut it off!
    I absolutely cannot start my franchise, until I know that every guy in my game is real and playing as their counterpart in real life is/might. Nuts? You bet...but that's me!...
    I figure I'm doing for myself....might as well let others like me get in on it if they like!

    M.K.
    Knight165
    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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    • jpup
      MVP
      • Feb 2003
      • 4571

      #1697
      Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

      Originally posted by Knight165
      Ha....no need to apologize.....(and let's make it a club soda! )....
      I think next year, if you're still thinking of staying in the roster making business, we combine forces. It would save us both a ton of work and/or aggrevation. Between all of us(WAY TOO MANY TO MENTION).....it would make for a great set. I know you said you offered...but a. I don't remember(the old man thing remember?!...and I get a BLIZZARD of e-mails around that time)....and b. I didn't think anyone was that dedicated(which you OBVIOUSLY are!)....so I raise the glass right back to ya...

      ...and as for every other player that won't see the light of the MLB...I just gotta make them. I try to play games...and just knowing that there are fake guys playing my minor league games at the same time...makes me want to shut it off!
      I absolutely cannot start my franchise, until I know that every guy in my game is real and playing as their counterpart in real life is/might. Nuts? You bet...but that's me!...
      I figure I'm doing for myself....might as well let others like me get in on it if they like!

      M.K.
      Knight165
      a small suggestion? why don't you guys work together this year? It's only April 11th and the effort would be worth the wait and we could all enjoy a glitch free completed updated roster. I know you don't want to start over on this set and I completely understand that. It's a ton of work, but maybe you guys could make a set after your current one is done. Again, I offer my help in anyway possible.
      NFL: Tennessee Titans
      MLB: Cincinnati Reds

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      • JohnnyC5252
        Banned
        • Mar 2009
        • 214

        #1698
        Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

        Knight, do you think you will have all the teams done by next friday?

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        • jf28
          Rookie
          • Mar 2009
          • 118

          #1699
          Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

          Originally posted by Knight165
          jf28
          Nobody is a bigger Met fan than I, and Martinez is LUCKY he is still a B prospect. No way is he an A anymore.(sorry....REALLY sorry because I had/still have high hopes for him)....
          Train him right and he'll be fine

          M.K.
          Knight165
          OK, fair enough (although he is a top 50 prospect despite not hitting that well at the level he's at for a reason). Just wondering, have you (or will you) edit(ed) existing players? If not, would you be able to briefly explain on what you base your ratings for the veterans you create so I know how, because when I do it, I either make guys way too good or way to bad.

          If you did, I'm a bit surprised to see Nick Evans so low from a Met fan, Redding so high over guys like Niese and Livan, Maine and Perez over Pelf, and Parnell so low. Although now that I look, it does appear you edited a lot of them, and you did a good job on just about everyone else IMO.
          Last edited by jf28; 04-11-2009, 12:32 PM.

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          • Knight165
            *ll St*r
            • Feb 2003
            • 24964

            #1700
            Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

            Originally posted by JohnnyC5252
            Knight, do you think you will have all the teams done by next friday?
            Yes...I do....BUT!!!... by next Saturday night...I can ALMOST guarantee.
            I'll know better by Monday and update you guys..

            M.K
            Knight165
            All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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            • Knight165
              *ll St*r
              • Feb 2003
              • 24964

              #1701
              Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

              Originally posted by jf28
              OK, fair enough (although he is a top 50 prospect despite not hitting that well at the level he's at for a reason). Just wondering, have you (or will you) edit(ed) existing players? If not, would you be able to briefly explain on what you base your ratings for the veterans you create so I know how, because when I do it, I either make guys way too good or way to bad.
              When you say vets....which do you mean...minor league vets or MLB vets?(and I'm not trying to be funny....)
              If you mean MLB vets that aren't in my set to start, so I have to create....I simply go off of their stats and make a "command decision" as to whether I need to look further than the last two years to decide if a player is "losing it" or was injured(causing perhaps a bad stat year or two)...also...I try and weed out the career 4-5 homer guy who one year hits 20-23 and is now batting 5th in the lineup vs. LHP because of that.(Lugo and Easley(last year was CONSTANTLY being put batting 4-5 if an injury occured) come to mind right off the bat)

              It's tough to say because a lot of things come into play in just getting a guys average right.
              Trial and error...checking...editing...trial and error is the thing I STILL do the most.

              M.K.
              Knight165
              All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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              • jf28
                Rookie
                • Mar 2009
                • 118

                #1702
                Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                Originally posted by Knight165
                When you say vets....which do you mean...minor league vets or MLB vets?(and I'm not trying to be funny....)
                If you mean MLB vets that aren't in my set to start, so I have to create....I simply go off of their stats and make a "command decision" as to whether I need to look further than the last two years to decide if a player is "losing it" or was injured(causing perhaps a bad stat year or two)...also...I try and weed out the career 4-5 homer guy who one year hits 20-23 and is now batting 5th in the lineup vs. LHP because of that.(Lugo and Easley(last year was CONSTANTLY being put batting 4-5 if an injury occured) come to mind right off the bat)

                It's tough to say because a lot of things come into play in just getting a guys average right.
                Trial and error...checking...editing...trial and error is the thing I STILL do the most.

                M.K.
                Knight165
                MLB vets. And OK, thanks, I guess trial and error is the best way to go. Overall, great job on these, thanks.

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                • RAZRr1275
                  All Star
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 9918

                  #1703
                  Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                  Originally posted by Knight165
                  Yes...I do....BUT!!!... by next Saturday night...I can ALMOST guarantee.
                  I'll know better by Monday and update you guys..

                  M.K
                  Knight165
                  Perfect timing. Weekends are great for me and last I heard from strut he's a llittle more than half way done.
                  My latest project - Madden 12 http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043231648

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                  • JLWebb
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1852

                    #1704
                    Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                    Originally posted by Knight165
                    Ha....no need to apologize.....(and let's make it a club soda! )....
                    I think next year, if you're still thinking of staying in the roster making business, we combine forces. It would save us both a ton of work and/or aggrevation. Between all of us(WAY TOO MANY TO MENTION).....it would make for a great set. I know you said you offered...but a. I don't remember(the old man thing remember?!...and I get a BLIZZARD of e-mails around that time)....and b. I didn't think anyone was that dedicated(which you OBVIOUSLY are!)....so I raise the glass right back to ya...

                    ...and as for every other player that won't see the light of the MLB...I just gotta make them. I try to play games...and just knowing that there are fake guys playing my minor league games at the same time...makes me want to shut it off!
                    I absolutely cannot start my franchise, until I know that every guy in my game is real and playing as their counterpart in real life is/might. Nuts? You bet...but that's me!...
                    I figure I'm doing for myself....might as well let others like me get in on it if they like!

                    M.K.
                    Knight165
                    I am the EXACT same way Knight and admire the work you put into it (along with those who help you) with great appreciation. I too cannot enjoy a season/franchise knowing there are random no-ones playing for the Louisville Bats.

                    Again, MUCH appreciated!
                    Franchises & Dynasties
                    + Who Dey Nation - A Cincinnati Bengals Franchise (Madden 20 PS4)

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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #1705
                      Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                      Originally posted by JLWebb
                      I am the EXACT same way Knight and admire the work you put into it (along with those who help you) with great appreciation. I too cannot enjoy a season/franchise knowing there are random no-ones playing for the Louisville Bats.

                      Again, MUCH appreciated!
                      Talk about perfect timing!

                      A Reds fan..!!!
                      What's up with Kyle Lotzkar? Is he pitching? I know he was injured, but I thought he was back from that. I've got a lot of print data on him, but nothing online this year, noting that he is pitching right now anywhere.....I would like to include him if he is still in the organization somewhere.

                      Thanks...

                      Razr...sounds good!

                      M.K.
                      Knight165
                      All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                      • Mike3207
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 4665

                        #1706
                        Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                        Originally posted by DrUrsus
                        No, he doesn't want them on the Vault yet. Not until he releases the completed set. This is just to avoid any confusion since some users wouldn't know to come on here to find out what's what.
                        It sounds like they will be on the Vault once he has finished the completed set. I think it would be best to wait for the finished product anyway.

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #1707
                          Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                          Originally posted by mrs844224
                          It sounds like they will be on the Vault once he has finished the completed set. I think it would be best to wait for the finished product anyway.
                          Yes...Absolultely they will...

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                          • bibibanax
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 221

                            #1708
                            Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                            Question or suggestion...

                            With Shairon Martis playing as a starter with the Nationals, do you think his stamina should be up a bit???

                            Also you could put the link to the roster file on the first post of the topic. Maybe people won'T have to search for the file and won'T ask where to find them. (excuse my english I speak french)

                            Thanks a lot for your hard work!
                            Last edited by bibibanax; 04-11-2009, 01:32 PM.

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                            • RAZRr1275
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 9918

                              #1709
                              Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                              Originally posted by bibibanax
                              Question or suggestion...

                              With Shairon Martis playing as a starter with the Nationals, do you think his stamina should be up a bit???

                              Also you could put the link to the roster file on the first post of the topic. Maybe people won'T have to search for the file and won'T ask where to find them. (excuse my english I speak french)

                              Thanks a lot for your hard work!
                              Under Rod's formula after he gets done he'll be a 65.
                              My latest project - Madden 12 http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043231648

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                              • sgthalka
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 159

                                #1710
                                Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                                I've played a handful of games and simmed several seasons with this roster set, and I just gotta say awesome work to Razr and Knight and whoever else worked on this.

                                The depth in detail is insane -- yeah, the player names and attributes are the first thing you see, but the work you guys have done on faces, stances and pitch selection is fantastic. The game feels even more alive than it did before. Prospects have more individuality. I love the pitch edits. Toning down the 4-seam fastball monopoly makes hitting feel more intense. I love all the movement on fastballs now.

                                Nice work. Can't wait to see the final release.

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