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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #871
    Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by DrUrsus
    Oh man, I haven't been on here in a day since I had a busy day yesterday, and I am so confused reading back a few pages. Now I know how everyone else felt .

    If you guys don't mind, would you mind giving me a rundown of what is going on?

    Knight is now redoing his Full Minors using Countryboys non career stat glitch Knight rosters? Which roster did he have? And why doesn't CB have the career stat glitch with Knights rosters (he is the luckiest video game guy I have ever known, lol).

    What was this workaround Dave_sz had? It did not work, I take it, but everyone jumped the gun I take it?

    What rosters will Knight now be doing based off of Country Boys hist stat glitch free rosters?

    Why is V2 lineup fix better than the other Knight versions?

    Sorry for all the questions, but its hard to keep up here, lol

    Okay

    We thought we had the historical stat glitch "solved"....but it was the game loading and SCEA default roster.

    Countryboy took a VERY early "quick fix" version of my lineup fix(no minor leaguers in it)....and used it....it must have been before I went to SportsConnect and got "infected"...
    The reason that is so important to me...is the number of editable players...the number of A-B potential guys and the fewer number of "scrap heap" free agents....was simply the best on that update. Every subsequent update from SCEA got poorer and poorer from a roster maker standpoint. The latest one(which I would have had to have used if I was going to do it) is the worst. Littered with fake players(non editable) and FA's that are not picked up. Not one editable player on the FA list. Waste of time for a franchise.
    So I will eventually copy my Full Minors to that base.

    What version will I do....yet to be determined..(don't worry, there is plenty of time )

    v2(lineup fix) is "better" than v3(position players stock) in some regards because even when I did the edits just to get the lineups correct...I still work very hard to make sure the stats will be true to life......that poster was just pointing out some things he noticed between my edits and stock...that my edits actually played out better(when he...like many didn't think it would happen)

    JK...
    You didn't miss anything.
    v1-lineup fix
    v2-same as above with some fixes and AAA-AA lineups set
    v"3"-stock position players

    I'm waiting on the v3 and v2 sets from Razr and Strut(strut has already updated v3 with his stances...Razr is updating his pitches on it now...Strut is updating v2 now....Razr will get it update it and then they BOTH just need some minor fixes on my end and I will get them both out ASAP.)

    so v4 and v5 will be v2 and v3 updated respectively(as above) and will be the final versions of those.

    I'm updating the pitchers right now on v3 to be stock(to make it total stock)....I will also add struts stances and that will be out completing the spectrum of rosters!!!

    M.K.
    Knight165
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    • uconnBrave
      Rookie
      • Apr 2009
      • 8

      #872
      Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

      Knight, will you still be doing your personal edits roster as well? Just curious, as that is the one I'm waiting for.

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      • yyhy
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 202

        #873
        Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

        So V.2 will be full minors with lineup fix, Razr and Strut's edits and some final touches by you. Will this version have the stamina edits as well?

        I had planned on using the stock version with a few edits you said you'd make to it, but after reading that they play fine I think I'll just go with the V.2 when you're done with it.

        Just curious, what kind of final touches do you plan on making to it when you get it back? And *bites tongue* any ETA on these?

        Thank you so much again.
        Last edited by yyhy; 04-29-2009, 12:32 PM.

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        • renatus
          Rookie
          • Jul 2008
          • 376

          #874
          Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

          the super work ethic from everyone involved w those continues. Keep up the good work!

          i m looking forward to v4 w stamina edits. it´s the last part of the cycle right?

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          • gtm
            M*t*l F*r*v*r
            • Jul 2002
            • 3946

            #875
            Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

            What does "stock" mean related to the rosters? I keep seeing this as part of a roster. Sorry for the ignorance.
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            • longranger
              Pro
              • Oct 2008
              • 917

              #876
              Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by longranger
              knight, or anyone else, please help!!! I am about to open the game for the very first time and play it. What version of rosters should I use and is there anything else I need to do, know, or whatever. Please help!!!! Thanks!





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              anyone help me out please????
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              • yyhy
                Rookie
                • Mar 2009
                • 202

                #877
                Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                Stock means it has the original attributes that the game came with when you opened it. Before any updates or roster changes.

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                • renatus
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 376

                  #878
                  Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by gtm
                  What does "stock" mean related to the rosters? I keep seeing this as part of a roster. Sorry for the ignorance.
                  rosters w the original SCEA ratings

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                  • gtm
                    M*t*l F*r*v*r
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3946

                    #879
                    Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by renatus
                    rosters w the original SCEA ratings
                    Thank u my friend. Well, I guess it will come down too preference.
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                    • tgreer
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 565

                      #880
                      Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by yyhy
                      So V.2 will be full minors with lineup fix, Razr and Strut's edits and some final touches by you. Will this version have the stamina edits as well?

                      I had planned on using the stock version with a few edits you said you'd make to it, but after reading that they play fine I think I'll just go with the V.2 when you're done with it.

                      Just curious, what kind of final touches do you plan on making to it when you get it back? And *bites tongue* any ETA on these?

                      Thank you so much again.
                      Believe Knight said Stamina updates will be after he releases ALL of his rosters completed without it in

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #881
                        Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by longranger
                        anyone help me out please????
                        Sorry...kind of missed you the first time

                        I guess it kind of depends on how you are/like to play.

                        I would go with v2.
                        It has the lineup fixes(so the CPU will have you playing against lineups as they were opening day..or as close as I could get them)...
                        It has all real minor leaguers and is set for Opening Day play.
                        If you want to mimic the MLB transactions in your franchise/season play, you need to have CPU ROSTER CONTROL ON.....otherwise the CPU will trade...offer you trades...players will get injured etc. With it ON.....you will decide(and have to move) players around in order to get what you want.(I prefer it off and just let the CPU make moves(for other teams...of course you get to make your own) and let the franchise go as it may.

                        M.K.
                        Knight165
                        All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #882
                          Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by yyhy
                          So V.2 will be full minors with lineup fix, Razr and Strut's edits and some final touches by you. Will this version have the stamina edits as well?

                          I had planned on using the stock version with a few edits you said you'd make to it, but after reading that they play fine I think I'll just go with the V.2 when you're done with it.

                          Just curious, what kind of final touches do you plan on making to it when you get it back? And *bites tongue* any ETA on these?

                          Thank you so much again.
                          Actually, that will be v4(the update to v2)..Strut has it now and is updating it with his stances(v2 does not contain his stances...this is the main addition to v2 to make it v4).
                          When I get it back....the adjustments are minor...there are two Morlans and Phillips in the set(I didn't realize that SCEA had them in on their other club).....and a couple of quick lineup(in roster control screen..not edits) fixes and just adding a couple of players.
                          Should be rather quick once I get it back.

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                          • gtm
                            M*t*l F*r*v*r
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3946

                            #883
                            Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Knight165
                            Sorry...kind of missed you the first time

                            I guess it kind of depends on how you are/like to play.

                            I would go with v2.
                            It has the lineup fixes(so the CPU will have you playing against lineups as they were opening day..or as close as I could get them)...
                            It has all real minor leaguers and is set for Opening Day play.
                            If you want to mimic the MLB transactions in your franchise/season play, you need to have CPU ROSTER CONTROL ON.....otherwise the CPU will trade...offer you trades...players will get injured etc. With it ON.....you will decide(and have to move) players around in order to get what you want.(I prefer it off and just let the CPU make moves(for other teams...of course you get to make your own) and let the franchise go as it may.

                            M.K.
                            Knight165
                            Knight, would this be with the current V2 or wait on your update.
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                            • islanderfanpk
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 20

                              #884
                              Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                              [quote=longranger;2039497222]knight, or anyone else, please help!!! I am about to open the game for the very first time and play it. What version of rosters should I use and is there anything else I need to do, know, or whatever. Please help!!!! Thanks!


                              Just insert the game accept the patch. Start playing and most important, enjoy the game.
                              For me I've been playing exhibition games only. Waiting for Mr Knights V5 (I think that's what he's calling them now) rosters. Once they are released I will start playing RTTS and chize.

                              I also recommend checking out the sounds of the show thread. If your into the whole music thing.
                              Last edited by islanderfanpk; 04-29-2009, 02:02 PM.

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                              • apearson19
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 13

                                #885
                                Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

                                I hate to keep asking questions that probably seem redundant, but I am new here. Do the v3 and v4 rosters not have the stat glitch? Are these essentially the same rosters that were before the patch but are now based off of the 4/20 update? How did these get turned around so quickly? Thanks.

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