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  • Reds72
    Banned
    • Apr 2011
    • 12

    #166
    Re: Fictional Rosters

    Originally posted by raleigh mcclure
    All the players are fictional. It's like an OOTP roster for The Show.
    OK, thanks alot for the reply. I might still look into these after there done as they do sound interesting. My all time favorite baseball game was baseball stars back in the day,lol.

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    • TripleThreat1973
      Pro
      • May 2007
      • 564

      #167
      Re: Fictional Rosters

      Originally posted by Go!Cubs!Go!
      One last thing...I swear.

      The pitchers are ALL really good. I'm 90 percent done withe the cubs and every pitcher that I made from the spreadsheet is really good. Almost too good.

      Let me know if this is on purpose.
      They're accurate.

      Here's how the process works ...

      [1] I put the top 150 starting pitchers from Knights 2010 roster set into a spreadsheet and recorded/calculated (1) The max value for each rating, (2) the average value for each rating, and (3) the minimum value for each rating.

      From this I formed formulas that assign a rating by how much above/below the average a pitcher was ... without them going above or below the max/min values.

      In other words, the ratings should mirror the same values in Knight's roster.

      In these ratings, there are 44 players whose H/9 value is above 80. 36 of them are relievers.

      There are 30 players that have a HR/9 rating between 80 and 85, with none higher than 85. Again, most of them are relievers.

      For the K/9 ratings there are 44 pitchers with K/9 ratings above 90 ... 37 are relievers.

      One could check and see how they compare to Knight's 2011 rosters.

      My guess is they are very similar.

      Average in one game (OOTP) will be average.

      [2] I also did the same thing with the top 30 players at each fielding position (i.e., starting players).

      The "average" starter has a contact rating of 70, and a power rating of 65 (Knight's rosters). The average player in these rosters should be right about the same.

      The "average" player of the top 240 overall has a contact rat of 64 and power of 54.

      If anything, the average player in Knight's rosters is a tad better than the average player in these rosters.

      The "average" starting pitcher (based on the top 150) in these rosters would have a "per 9" (H/HR/K/BB) line of 65/72/75/52 ... or basically Jordan Zimmerman and Randy Wells, and Justin Duchscherer.

      The K/9 ratings in 2011 seem to be lower than the 2010 version.

      Be cautious with how things appear to be.
      GATEWAY TO GREATNESS: 2010 CARDINALS FRANCHISE
      http://www.digitalsportscene.com/for...dinals-17.html

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      • MR.RANDOM
        Rookie
        • Feb 2008
        • 384

        #168
        Re: Fictional Rosters

        oak and hou will be done by tommoro..sea and tex are next

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        • Go!Cubs!Go!
          Rookie
          • Mar 2011
          • 38

          #169
          Re: Fictional Rosters

          Thanks triple threat. I trust you 100 percent...that's why I asked.

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          • MR.RANDOM
            Rookie
            • Feb 2008
            • 384

            #170
            Re: Fictional Rosters

            ive done hou and oak..i wanna put one up in the vault so you can see if you like it before i start working on teams again...let me know

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            • raleigh mcclure
              Rookie
              • Mar 2011
              • 134

              #171
              Re: Fictional Rosters

              I just updated the first post of the thread with an attempt to color-code our progress.

              Mr. Random, you said that the Astro's and A's are 100% done, does that include pitchers?

              So, if I left anything out, post or PM me with any updates on progress.

              Thanks.

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              • sluggbugg
                Pro
                • Aug 2003
                • 509

                #172
                Re: Fictional Rosters

                I would be interested in helping this project. If the NL West needs someone to take it over I would be willing to do that.

                I need some clarification on some things though. Im old (35) you have to bare with me. lol I have tons of free time do to not having a job at the moment. Thankfully I have a beautiful and wonderful wife (just in case she sees this lol) that makes enough money to support us will I "find" myself.

                Let me know if you would like my help.

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                • raleigh mcclure
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 134

                  #173
                  Re: Fictional Rosters

                  Originally posted by sluggbugg
                  I would be interested in helping this project. If the NL West needs someone to take it over I would be willing to do that.

                  I need some clarification on some things though. Im old (35) you have to bare with me. lol I have tons of free time do to not having a job at the moment. Thankfully I have a beautiful and wonderful wife (just in case she sees this lol) that makes enough money to support us will I "find" myself.

                  Let me know if you would like my help.
                  Wahooo!

                  Thanks Sluggbugg! We're happy to have you.

                  I just took Bodizzy's name off of the NL West teams because he expressed some reservations awhile back. I sent him a message just today to make sure he hadn't already started on some of those teams. I'll put you down for the Padres now, and then add others when I've heard from Bodizzy. Also, I'm pretty sure TripleThreat wouldn't mind if you took a team from him. I'm sure he'll post when he sees this.

                  I wouldn't worry about being "old", 35 could be the median age for this project. I think most of the information you need is on the first post of the thread. I tried to be thorough and clear in my description and directions. Just feel free to ask a lot of questions (you can send me a private message if it isn't something the group needs to see).

                  Well, that's all I can think of at the moment. Again, welcome to the group!
                  Last edited by raleigh mcclure; 04-21-2011, 02:28 PM.

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                  • sluggbugg
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 509

                    #174
                    Re: Fictional Rosters

                    Ok I'll get started then. Dodgers here I come! Are we using any specific rosters to start with or does it not even matter? I have Knights and the Online update, I assume it doesn't really matter, although it might be easier to tell who is generic to start with from SCEA's roster. I'll use them unless you tell me otherwise. [/rambling post]

                    Edit: Or Padres lol

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                    • raleigh mcclure
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 134

                      #175
                      Re: Fictional Rosters

                      Originally posted by sluggbugg
                      Ok I'll get started then. Dodgers here I come! Are we using any specific rosters to start with or does it not even matter? I have Knights and the Online update, I assume it doesn't really matter, although it might be easier to tell who is generic to start with from SCEA's roster. I'll use them unless you tell me otherwise. [/rambling post]
                      Sorry Sluggbugg, I was editing my posts as you were responding. I reconsidered the Dodgers just because they're the second team listed. I thought, if he took the teams in the order listed maybe he's started on the Dodgers. I'm really just guessing though. So, start with the Padres.

                      You're correct about the roster to start with. It doesn't matter. Although I created a roster that has all of the MLBPA players blanked out. It's in the roster vault and I think I called it something like "OSFiction Blank Slate", but I'm not absolutely certain about the name. If you'd like to use that, I can give you more details on how to find it. That might help you avoid editing over any of the MLBPA players whose career stats seem to carry over to any player that has been imported over them.

                      I would change my method for the first step. The way I did it, I just exported a player at each potential grade A, B, and C. I named the player "Player A", and so on. That mostly worked, but it probably had a couple of unintended effects. It probably created players that all have the same potential "number". So far as I understand the potential grades, it appears that each letter grade covers a range of numbers. So, a high "B" has more potential than a low "B".

                      Also, when I edited all of my B players from the same starting point, I always had to start from the same face and set of accessories.

                      Here's how I'd start. First, have a look at the Padres on the batters spreadsheet (this step has been done for the pitchers) and figure out which 16-18 players you're going to use of the twenty to thirty players listed. Skip the "D" players and whittle down until you have a manageable number. I tried to make only a couple of players at most positions and no more than three or four players at the rest. I also tried to get a spread of ages and abilities. I'm sure you'll figure that out.

                      Then, once you have the list of players to edit ready, I would count up the number of potential grades you need for the team and then move them onto the Padres' roster. You can take them from other teams you won't be editing or from other SCEA rosters. This is where I just imported my earlier exported players at each potential grade. But what I'd suggest is just finding different players at each potential. So, if you need six A players for your roster, just scour other teams' (or other rosters') fictional players for A's and move them onto the Padres' roster (or export them from other rosters and import them into your working roster). That way, when you go to edit the players, some of the accessories already be randomized and the face that's already there might give you a different starting place in order to keep the faces different.

                      Then, I'd follow the other directions you'll find on the first post of this thread. I think I mention there that I first enter the names, positions, and ratings for all of the players on the team. That way, when I go back to edit appearances, I know which players I'll want to spend more time on (the better players and the "first-string" players.

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                      • sluggbugg
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 509

                        #176
                        Re: Fictional Rosters

                        Cool thanks for the info. Ive started. Its a little slow right now cause Im not that used to the player editor for this game. Ive used it for several other games and this one is not that different but just got to get the hang of it. I'll hollar if I run into any problems.

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                        • sluggbugg
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 509

                          #177
                          Re: Fictional Rosters

                          Padres Hitters/Fielders are done. Starting on Pitchers.

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                          • raleigh mcclure
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 134

                            #178
                            Re: Fictional Rosters

                            Originally posted by sluggbugg
                            Padres Hitters/Fielders are done. Starting on Pitchers.
                            Good to hear, Sluggbugg! I put you in for the rest of the NL West. I haven't heard from Bodizzy, but it's probably safe to assume that he hasn't started on the other teams yet or he might have mentioned it. He was working on a separate project anyways.

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                            • sluggbugg
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 509

                              #179
                              Re: Fictional Rosters

                              So...One thing that jumps out at me is the Team Salaries are gonna be really low to start off with. Not that this is a bad thing, that I'm aware of. I just noticed it. Also the overalls are really low for the Padres. The 20 hitters I did look more like a "AA" team. lol

                              Edit: Ok maybe "AAA" lol
                              Last edited by sluggbugg; 04-21-2011, 11:43 PM.

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                              • MR.RANDOM
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 384

                                #180
                                Re: Fictional Rosters

                                can i please do the giants? theyre my favorite team and i wanted to do them but the other fella had them

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