Operation Sports Full Minors 2012

[juicer420]

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It's good to be conservative on the A's. Not everyone is going to like seeing some players as B's. But, users can always make A versions themselves.

What I'm going to do for the Giants and maybe with Oakland, is create a bunch of alternate versions of players. Like Joe Panik and Heath Hembree will likely be B's in the official release, but I'm going to make A versions of them for people to download. Along with a bunch of extra low level guys for users to store away in free agency in their franchise. And possibly some clone players. I always make the 2nd coming of Willie Mays in my franchise. I just give him a different name. Once year 4 rolls around, I edit his age back to 18 and put him in double-A.

[siinister83]

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Hey guys, if you need any help with names on any of the teams I'm more than willing to help with that. I'm no good with faces but again, as far as names or ratings go, I can help.

[Last Regret]

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Knight,

I didn't see a link to the spreadsheet with who is doing what for what team here. I think it'd be easier for us to contact each other if we knew who had what. Unless you're already on top of that.

[juicer420]

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Knight,

I didn't see a link to the spreadsheet with who is doing what for what team here. I think it'd be easier for us to contact each other if we knew who had what. Unless you're already on top of that.

To start....here is a link to the updated work chart

..https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...TVNU0h4ZnhyLUE

M.K.
Knight165

Here you go.

[juicer420]

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Ummm...my Oakland crew keeps getting banned! Myself and IITK7II are the only one's left standing!

So if anyone wants to lend a hand, I have plenty left to do!

[BDKiiing]

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I'm assuming if Jed Bradley and Taylor Jungmann aren't A's then Danny Hultzen wouldn't be. Both were rated higher than higher going into the draft. The only reason Jungmann wasn't on the top 100 was because he hasn't pitched yet. Look at what he's done in a couple outings in spring training.

[BatsareBugs]

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I would like to help but I've got my hands full with the D'Backs and Padres.

For prospects on the 40-man roster with a MLB number assigned, should we go with that or their minor league number? (Especially if the number is 60 and above)?

[ksig24]

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I'm assuming if Jed Bradley and Taylor Jungmann aren't A's then Danny Hultzen wouldn't be. Both were rated higher than higher going into the draft. The only reason Jungmann wasn't on the top 100 was because he hasn't pitched yet. Look at what he's done in a couple outings in spring training.

First off, I am not done deciding who needs to be A's. Secondly those guys are in the running, but I dont know where you are getting your info that they were higher rated than Hultzen going into the draft. Nearly every team had Hultzen top 3 in the war room.

[BatsareBugs]

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Hultzen is very polished though and his ceiling isn't as high as Bauer or Cole, but at the same time he is no lower than B+ given his overall package.

IMO, Wily Peralta is the only person I can see getting an A for the Brewers with Jed Bradley, Jungmann, and Thornberg at the borderline of a B+/A-. This is also why we had the OSFM potential thread and the OSFM top 100 thread for this very reason, yet it was largely ignored.

[BDKiiing]

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First off, I am not done deciding who needs to be A's. Secondly those guys are in the running, but I dont know where you are getting your info that they were higher rated than Hultzen going into the draft. Nearly every team had Hultzen top 3 in the war room.

http://baseballdraftreport.com/2011/06/06/final-2011-mlb-draft-college-pitcher-rankings/

[PSUlions15]

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Knight, sorry to bug but what do the colors represent in the google progress doc., is green completed? Sorry, if this was asked already.

[beardawnwood]

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Check out Law or Mayo if you guys have any questions about prospects.

[dkrause1971]

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http://baseballdraftreport.com/2011/...cher-rankings/

The consensus if you visit many draft sites, prospect sites, is Hultzen is a higher end prospect than Bradley, Jungmann or Peralta.

While i think Jungmann is the best Brewers prospect, i know others think Bradley, Peralta or Thornburg is better. They should be all B's at minimum.

[mlbonfox]

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First off, I am not done deciding who needs to be A's. Secondly those guys are in the running, but I dont know where you are getting your info that they were higher rated than Hultzen going into the draft. Nearly every team had Hultzen top 3 in the war room.

Sorry to post this in here Knight but just wanted to try and help.

QUICK PRIMER ON GRADE MEANINGS:


Grade A prospects are the elite. They have a good chance of becoming stars or superstars. Almost all Grade A prospects develop into major league regulars, if injuries or other problems don't intervene. Note that is a major "if" in some cases.


Grade B prospects have a good chance to enjoy successful careers. Some will develop into stars, some will not. Most end up spending several years in the majors, at the very least in a marginal role.


Grade C prospects are the most common type. These are guys who have something positive going for them, but who may have a question mark or three, or who are just too far away from the majors to get an accurate feel for. A few Grade C guys, especially at the lower levels, do develop into stars. Many end up as role players or bench guys. Some don't make it at all.


A major point to remember is that grades for pitchers do NOT correspond directly to grades for hitters. Many Grade A pitching prospects fail to develop, often due to injuries. Some Grade C pitching prospects turn out much better than expected.


Also note that there is diversity within each category. I'm a tough grader; Grade C+ is actually good praise coming from me, and some C+ prospects turn out very well indeed.


Finally, keep in mind that all grades are shorthand. You have to read the full comment in the book for my full opinion about a player, the letter grade only tells you so much. A Grade C prospect in rookie ball could end up being very impressive, while a Grade C prospect in Triple-A is likely just a future role player.


1) Wily Peralta, RHP, Grade B: Looks like he could be a solid number three starter if his command remains steady. We should see him sometime in 2012.

2) Tyler Thornburg, RHP, Grade B: A year behind Peralta on the development track, should begin 2012 in Double-A, another guy who can be a mid-rotation starter.

3) Taylor Jungmann, HP, Grade B: Grade could go a notch higher once we get some pro data and see how his velocity looks. He should also be a mid-rotation guy at worst.

4) Jed Bradley, LHP, Grade B: As with Jungmann, he could be a B+ once we see how he looks in pro ball. I like both of them.

5) Taylor Green, 3B, Grade B-: I don't expect him to be a star, but he should be a solid contributor, hitting for average with moderate power and acceptable glovework.

6) Jorge Lopez, RHP, Grade B-: Puerto Rican righthander is a big favorite of mine from the 2011 draft. Super-projectable, already throws strikes. Grade could shoot up fast.

7) Scooter Gennett, 2B, Grade B-: Seems to hit .300 in his sleep, but needs to steady down on defense, improve baserunning.


8) Cody Scarpetta, RHP, Grade B-: Borderline C+. Higher ceiling than Fiers, but still struggling with his command.


9) Mike Fiers, RHP, Grade C+: Took a lot of people by surprise, but if you read my book last year, you knew about him. Average fastball, but excellent changeup, good breaking ball, good command, knows what he's doing. Older prospect at age 26 but ready to help now, could be like Josh Collmenter.


10) Logan Schafer, OF, Grade C+: I really love his glove, should hit for a decent average with some steals, excellent fourth outfielder.


11) Santo Manzanillo, RHP, Grade C+: Throws very hard, successful when his command is working, but his track record before 2011 is troublesome and regression always possible.

12) Caleb Gindl, OF, Grade C+: Doesn't look great in uniform, but controls zone well, has some pop, held his own in Double-A at age 22.


13) David Goforth, RHP, Grade C+: Would rank higher on pure velocity, but secondary pitches are still in question. If he refines them, grade could be much higher next year.

14) Nick Bucci, RHP, Grade C+: Continues slow, steady development pace. Possible mid-rotation starter, Double-A transition will tell us a lot.

15) Kentrail Davis, OF, Grade C: Made better use of his speed this year, but otherwise disappointing.

16) Orlando Arcia, SS, Grade C: Not a high profile guy, but played very well in the Dominican Summer League on both offense and defense. Stock will rise quickly if he replicates this.


17) Hunter Morris, 1B, Grade C: Nice power numbers, but poor strike zone judgment stands out as a negative factor for future success.


18) D'Vontrey Richardson, OF, Grade C: Tools guy, Florida State football product, still very raw. Has 70 speed but a sub-.500 stealing success percentage, which is really hard to pull off.


19) Jimmy Nelson, RHP, Grade C: Ate innings and got grounders in Low-A, but command issues are apparent and he was a college guy against younger hitters.


20) Nick Ramirez, 1B, Grade C: Similar to Morris, a first baseman with power but a very low walk rate from a big-time baseball school.

OTHERS: Sean Albury, RHP; Eric Arnett, RHP; Jacob Barnes, RHP; Khris Davis, OF; Frankie De La Cruz, RHP; Eric Farris, 2B; Drew Gagnon, RHP; Kyle Heckathorn, RHP; Lucas Luetge, LHP; Martin Maldonado, C; Dan Meadows, LHP; Dan Merklinger, LHP; Mike McClendon, RHP; Chris McFarland, SS; Matt Miller, RHP; Nick Ramirez, 1B; Michael Reed, OF; Yadiel Rivera, SS; Mark Rogers, RHP; Zelous Wheeler, INF.


This system isn't as bad as you might expect at first glance, but there is very little depth beyond the top guys. Peralta, Thornburg, Jungmann, and Bradley are a good foundation for a future pitching staff, and Jorge Lopez could end up being the best of the lot if he develops properly. Mike Fiers doesn't have the upside of the others, but is ready now.

Lack of hitting depth is an issue, I don't see anyone here with impact offensive potential, although there are guys who should be useful, productive role players.

There is lots of Grade C in this system, making exact rankings problematic. Your mileage may vary.

[mlbonfox]

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Maybe you guys can use this:

2012 Baseball Farm System Rankings