Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

[yanksdaniel99]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

We'll know for sure when we get the game, but for now this is what I'm going off of:

Montero 97
The Bartender 94
Ackley 90
Furbush 86
Beaven 83
Ramierz 83
Saunders 83
Seager 82 (He missed most of 13) has b potential
Triunfel a 77 (That isn't starter quality, but better than i would of thought)

Bat pm'd me when he got the game and these were from one of his sims. Triunfel is probably an A-, his overall didn't increase as much as Montero's.

Edit:

Well I guess Montero and Triunfel progressed about the same... In one of his other sims Bat said Montero was a 99 though.

This is after one year ? Holy ****

Pretty crazy, Montero jumped 12 points and Truinfel jumped 11 points.

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

This is after one year ? Holy ****

Pretty crazy, Montero jumped 12 points and Truinfel jumped 11 points.

LOL nope, 2017

[yanksdaniel99]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

LOL nope, 2017

oh thank god, still scared me for a second

So we're looking at a 3-4 overall increase per year, and with 5-7 years of progression thats still ~ 15-25 from what they're at now, so if we lower some guys into the 50-60s, we SHOULD be ok right ?

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

oh thank god, still scared me for a second

So we're looking at a 3-4 overall increase per year, and with 5-7 years of progression thats still ~ 15-25 from what they're at now, so if we lower some guys into the 50-60s, we SHOULD be ok right ?

Yeah, with the bulk of it occurring in the first couple of years. I think its actually closer to 2-3 per, Montero is most likely a max A.

[jnavarro]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

We really shouldn't change any SCEA players in the OSFM roster. I don't think anyone has ever done that. I would save it for later rosters or make alternate versions of those guys for the player vault.

[yanksdaniel99]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

We really shouldn't change any SCEA players in the OSFM roster. I don't think anyone has ever done that. I would save it for later rosters or make alternate versions of those guys for the player vault.

Nothing is changed for the original set.

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

We really shouldn't change any SCEA players in the OSFM roster. I don't think anyone has ever done that. I would save it for later rosters or make alternate versions of those guys for the player vault.

I personally don't want to change any SCEA players, I want SCEA to do it for us lol. Anyway, I was trying to justify why Vitters and Jackson can remain A's, their initial overalls will be low enough that they won't have sufficient time to reach their potential.

[js3512]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I personally don't want to change any SCEA players, I want SCEA to do it for us lol. Anyway, I was trying to justify why Vitters and Jackson can remain A's, their initial overalls will be low enough that they won't have sufficient time to reach their potential.

That does make sense. I would still think that at least Soler and Baez are A's as their ceilings appear to be significantly higher than those of Jackson and Vitters. Almora on the other hand would probably have about the same ceiling so a B+ would likely even that out.

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

That does make sense. I would still think that at least Soler and Baez are A's as their ceilings appear to be significantly higher than those of Jackson and Vitters. Almora on the other hand would probably have about the same ceiling so a B+ would likely even that out.

Yup Baez and Soler are going to be mid A's and they have plenty of time to reach their potential. Almora is extremely polished for his age so his floor should be closer to his cieling.

[skow05]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I figured this might be helpful to the roster maker(s). If not, no big deal, I just had some free time on my hands and thought it might be of assistance. I know I'm not 100% correct with where players will start the season, but I thought it would at least be a good starting point for discussion since the game is out (for some of us).

KEY

• Highlighted in Blue means that they are on the 40-man roster.
• Highlighted in Red means that they are non-roster invitees.
• A player in bold indicates that they need a CAP.
• BA followed by a # is the prospects ranking according to Baseball America.
• MLB.com followed by a # is the prospects ranking according to MLB.com.
• FG followed by a # is the prospects ranking according to FanGraphs.

Starting Pitchers (24 - 2 DL/5 MLB/5 AAA/5 AA/7 A)

DL Matt Garza ~ 4 weeks into regular season
MLB Jeff Samardzija
MLB Edwin Jackson
DL Scott Baker ~ 2-3 weeks into regular season
MLB Scott Feldman
MLB Travis Wood
MLB Carlos Villanueva

AAA Jason Berken
AAA Brooks Raley
AAA Chris Rusin
AAA Arodys Vizcaino BA #4/MLB.com #5/FG #6
AAA Nick Struck

AA Robert Whitenack BA #23/MLB.com #15
AA Barrett Loux BA #26
AA Austin Kirk
AA Dae-Eun Rhee
AA Dallas Beeler

A Pierce Johnson BA #6/MLB.com #7
A Dillon Maples BA #18/MLB.com #6/FG #4
A Paul Blackburn BA #16/MLB.com #17
A Duane Underwood BA #17/MLB.com #16/FG #14
A Juan Carlos Paniagua BA #11
A Marcelo Carreno
A Matt Loosen BA #27

Relief Pitchers (23 - 7 MLB/9 AAA/7 AA)

MLB Carlos Marmol
MLB James Russell
MLB Shawn Camp
MLB Michael Bowden
MLB Alberto Cabrera BA #13/MLB.com #19
MLB Kyuji Fujikawa BA #9
MLB Hector Rondon Rule 5 Draft Pick

AAA Hisanori Takahashi
AAA Rafael Dolis
AAA Casey Coleman
AAA Drew Carpenter
AAA Blake Parker
AAA Zach Putnam
AAA Cory Wade
AAA Jensen Lewis
AAA Casey Weathers

AA Trey McNutt BA #24
AA Marcos Mateo
AA Jaye Chapman
AA Dayan Diaz
AA Lendy Castillo BA #28
AA Tony Zych BA #22
AA Marcus Hatley BA #29

Catchers (7 - 2 MLB/2 AAA/2 AA/1 A)

MLB Wellington Castillo
MLB Dioner Navarro

AAA Steve Clevenger
AAA J.C. Boscan

AA Michael Brenly
AA Chad Noble

A Rafael Lopez

First Baseman (4 - 1 MLB/1 AAA/1 AA/1 A)

MLB Anthony Rizzo

AAA Brad Nelson

AA Justin Bour

A Dan Vogelbach BA #7/MLB.com #11/FG #5

Second Baseman (4 - 1 MLB/2 AAA/1 A)

MLB Darwin Barney

AAA Logan Watkins BA #19
AAA Alberto Gonzalez

A Gioskar Amaya BA #21/MLB.com #18

Shortstop (8 - 2 MLB/2 AAA/1 AA/3 A)

MLB Starlin Castro
MLB Brent Lillibridge

AAA Junior Lake BA #15/MLB.com #9/FG #13
AAA Edwin Maysonet

AA Elliot Soto

A Javier Baez BA #1/MLB.com #1/FG #1
A Arismendy Alacantara BA #10
A Marco Hernandez BA #20/FG #11

Third Baseman (5 - 2 MLB/1 AAA/1 AA/1 A)

MLB Ian Stewart
MLB Luis Valbuena

AAA Josh Vitters BA #25/MLB.com #14/FG #10

AA Christian Villanueva BA #12/MLB.com #8/FG #9

A Jeimer Candelario BA #8/MLB.com #13/FG #12

Left Fielder (4 - 1 MLB/2 AAA/1 AA)

MLB Alfonso Soriano

AAA Brian Bogusevic
AAA Darnell McDonald

AA Rubi Silva

Center Fielder (6 - 1 MLB/1 AAA/2 AA/2 A)

MLB David DeJesus

AAA Brett Jackson BA #5/MLB.com #4/FG #7

AA Matt Szczur BA # 14/MLB.com #10/FG #8
AA Jae-Hoon Ha MLB.com #12

A Albert Almora BA #2/MLB.com #2/FG #2
A Trey Martin BA #30/MLB.com #20/FG #15

Right Fielder (6 - 3 MLB/1 AAA/1 AA/1 A)

MLB Scott Hairston
MLB Nate Schierholtz
MLB Dave Sappelt

AAA Brad Snyder

AA Johermyn Chavez

A Jorge Soler BA #3/MLB.com #3/FG #3

MLB - 25
DL - 2
AAA - 26
AA - 21
A - 17
________
Total - 91

Obviously we'd have to remove a player from that list to get to 90 (probably one of the Low-A SP's) and balance out the AAA/AA/A rosters to get them to 25 each. I was just doing an initial fly-by so I wasn't trying to be too detail-oriented. And as the NRI's start getting weeded out and rosters start taking form we can possibly sub out some of the older "journeymen" for more fringe prospect-type players.

Outside Looking In:

Ben Wells
Stephen Bruno
Ryan McNeil
Kyle Hendricks
Shawon Dunston Jr.
Reggie Golden
Ronald Torreyes
Zeke DeVoss
Rock Shoulders
Eric Jokisch
Jeffry Antigua
P.J. Francescon
Jose Arias
Michael Jensen

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Does anyone recommend any pitch repertoire changes for prospects from OSFM 2012 to 2013?

I'm starting to copy over the players already made from last year, want to know if there are any major changes here.

I'm going off of the latest OSFM Ridin uploaded to the vault in December I believe if you want to check.

[skow05]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Does anyone recommend any pitch repertoire changes for prospects from OSFM 2012 to 2013?

I'm starting to copy over the players already made from last year, want to know if there are any major changes here.

I'm going off of the latest OSFM Ridin uploaded to the vault in December I believe if you want to check.

I'm not sure about it off of the top of my head. I'm hoping to leave work early today (thanks snow!) and go pick up the show, so I could check some things out and give some input possibly.

Do you have any insight as to who you are going to be including in the roster?

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I'm not sure about it off of the top of my head. I'm hoping to leave work early today (thanks snow!) and go pick up the show, so I could check some things out and give some input possibly.

Do you have any insight as to who you are going to be including in the roster?

Talking to seanjeezy he said all of the AAA team, 80% or so of the AA team and then fill the rest of the spots with various prospects. So I'll start with that.

If you guys have any idea on what players you want in let me know, any help would be great. For potentials I'm mostly going off of what was posted in this thread for the C/D guys as I agree with nearly all of them. If you have any opinions on these too let me know.

I'm starting with the players that were made last year. Copying over the info, equipment, faces and trying to get their stances accurate with all the new custom stuff added this year. Then check and see if any changes need to be made to the MLB 12 OSFM stuff. Authentic did a lot do great work last year so I'm basically just going to reuse his stuff.

Its the OSFM roster from MLB 12 (posted by Ridin in Dec 2012) I am using so if anyone sees any changes players made in equipment, pitch types, anything since last year any help would be appreciated.

[skow05]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Talking to seanjeezy he said all of the AAA team, 80% or so of the AA team and then fill the rest of the spots with various prospects. So I'll start with that.

If you guys have any idea on what players you want in let me know, any help would be great. For potentials I'm mostly going off of what was posted in this thread for the C/D guys as I agree with nearly all of them. If you have any opinions on these too let me know.

I'm starting with the players that were made last year. Copying over the info, equipment, faces and trying to get their stances accurate with all the new custom stuff added this year. Then check and see if any changes need to be made to the MLB 12 OSFM stuff. Authentic did a lot do great work last year so I'm basically just going to reuse his stuff.

Its the OSFM roster from MLB 12 (posted by Ridin in Dec 2012) I am using so if anyone sees any changes players made in equipment, pitch types, anything since last year any help would be appreciated.

Alright sweet. Thanks for sharing how you are going about the process. I posted a 91-man roster on the last page if you were interested in checking that out. It's along the same guidelines you laid forth. 100%AAA/80%AA/Rest A-Ball prospects.

Authentic did do awesome work last year so using his as a starting point is not a poor idea.

Well good luck man. I know all of us who post in here would be eager to help with any decisions you have to make with the rosters, so don't hesitate to ask for input!

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Alright sweet. Thanks for sharing how you are going about the process. I posted a 91-man roster on the last page if you were interested in checking that out. It's along the same guidelines you laid forth. 100%AAA/80%AA/Rest A-Ball prospects.

Authentic did do awesome work last year so using his as a starting point is not a poor idea.

Well good luck man. I know all of us who post in here would be eager to help with any decisions you have to make with the rosters, so don't hesitate to ask for input!

Don't hesitate to just post anything that comes to mind. Most of my early time with the game and working on the rosters will just be cosmetic stuff and entering info in.

If anyone has any different opinions from what's been posted in this thread in terms of player potentials post them, the more input the better. Or if you guys have an opinion on when a player might be a factor on an MLB roster and his stat/ratings projections, anything. I'm mostly looking at Authentic's work here and updating it for a year passing and for any changes that may have occurred.

Keep in mind I think the A and B players will be decided on by the head OSFM guys in terms of their potential in the game.