Edwy's AllStar Sliders

[MizzouRah]

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I'm going to try these on the psp tonight.

[MeBeEdwy]

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Also, I noticed the pitcher confidence meter is more in favor of the CPU. One or two good innings and the CPU really starts to hit the corners and mixes up the pitches. On Veteran, if you get a couple of hits, his confidence meter is lowered. Then hitting becomes an arcade game.

I notice this alot too, however sometimes I notice that if the CPU can shut you down for 5 innings straight, then on the 6th inning the user gets that one excellent hit, you start getting runs then the opposing manager has to pull him out. Sorta like a big mood swing or something. Which I like.

MeBeEdwy: If I was to bump the power attribute up a few for both the user and cpu would it offset the rest of the sliders?

HustlinOwl: I would first start trying out using the zonehitting, if you use just "X" and "Square" button to hit, then you'll only get good hits if the pitches are coming right down the middle, (one of the big differences between Veteran and AS, Your zone hitting has to be there or else it'll just foul off). If after that, your still not getting enough HRs to your likeing then go ahead and raise the power level, but not too much. I myself am not seeing that many HRs, but I would at least like to see about 1 HR every other game from my ball club.

[HustlinOwl]

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MeBeEdwy: Thanks for the quick response. So zone hitting should solve the lack of HR's, doubles, and triples? Are you using zone hitting when you play?

[MeBeEdwy]

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I am using zone hitting, it should solve for the lack of doubles and triples, HR's im still working on, I had a HR drought for the first 2 weeks of my season, but on the 3rd week I managed to get 4 HRs with 3 different people in 2 of my games. So I think it all just depends on your skill level.

[pberardi]

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MeBeEdwy: Thanks for the quick response. So zone hitting should solve the lack of HR's, doubles, and triples? Are you using zone hitting when you play?

I concur. I struggled with the long ball using only "X" on allstar. I was making contact but hitting mostly grounders and pop flies.

As soon as I started using zone hitting, I saw a considerable difference in HR's, doubles and triples. Also, don't be afraid to swing at pitches that are not in your zone. You'll still make contact to avoid the strikeout. I avoid "X" unless I have 2 strikes and I am protecting the plate. The 4 zone approach covers enough of the plate that with good timing, you'll make contact to avoid swing and misses. I always felt that if I wasn't swinging at a pitch in my zone, I would miss. This of course does not happen.

Also, I did notice in Veteran, that anything less than 8 on power resulted in a lack of HR's. However, I was rarely using the L stick. I think MeBeEdwy's slider power @ 5 on Allstar reveals the beauty of this game regarding the multitude of hit variety. Anything over 8 power results in hard hit line drives. However, if one insists on using "X" only, then I would see why someone would need to crank up the power.

That defeats the purpose of moving up to Allstar level. In order to pursue realistic boxscores and statistics, that MeBeEdwy stated his sliders achieve, then his sliders are a really good start. (I confess, I increased contact to 2 instead of 0 to help get some more hit variety but with more success using the L stick, I may lower)

[MeBeEdwy]

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L stick makes a big difference between the different levels.

Rookie - You absolutely do not need to use L stick, hitting is all timeing.
Veteran - Slightly more influence on using the L stick, but not much.
AllStar - Zone hitting and timeing need to be in sync, or you most likely will hit flyballs or foul balls.
HoF - Zone hitting and timing need to be perfect in order to get good hits.

And plus, its also more fun to hit a ball with using the L stick and "X", rather than just hitting "X"

[HustlinOwl]

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Thanks for the input fellas and now that I think about it, it does make more sense. Using strictly "X" on veteran would produce more offense thus being on a lower difficulty level. And using strictly "X" with HOF and the power slider being bumped up considerably would also lead to more power.

Damn I wish it was 330, so my a$$ could get home and try these new findings out.

[HustlinOwl]

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Some problems Im having with these sliders. I havent been able to get a decent number of stolen bases even from the speed demons on my team. Seems like I get picked off alot, im not a big base stealer, but I would like to steal a base every once in a while when I need to.

I am experiencing the exact opposite. I seem to be stealing bases rather easily.

[MeBeEdwy]

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lol, I recently started trying out some new things too with the whole base running thing, im now starting to get a few stolen bases with some of my fast guys,

Thanks for the input, now how bout them HRs

[pberardi]

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Won my first game on Allstar 2-1 vs Texas which is pretty good pitching vs Texas. My feeling after 7 games now is I need to raise power for user from 5 to 8. I'm very reluctant to do it because I know anything I hit will be hard. I'll give up hit variety. But every ball I hit solidly at 5 seems to die in the outfield. Even with the L stick, I can't seem to get the extra base hits. There is contact I swear should be out of the park that simply hangs for an out.

Also, I want to be able to get some hits once in a while with X only. For those difficult 2-2 counts or 3-2 counts I like to be able to make contact and not aim the L stick. Granted, I don't want Veteran style where I get singles upon contact but I don't want to hit only grounders and pop flies either. So I'm going with 8 for power and will report.

If I become to power savvy, I can always lower. Anyway, boxscores are very real now. No more 13 run, 25 hit attacks. I can't see how anyone can complain about too many hits with your sliders on allstar. If anything, my hit #'s are low. Averaging 5 or 6 per game. Allstar contact is definitely harder.

[MeBeEdwy]

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Report back with that power slider change and let us know! I think ill stick with it at 5, maybe when I see the stats in the long run of my season, I might change. Im averaging around 10 hits a game but with only 5 or less runs which im very happy with that, not too many hits, getting some good solid fun games, while keeping my player stats and boxscores as realistic as possible.

[HustlinOwl]

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Yeah let us know I would like to see what it is also at 8

[pberardi]

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Report back with that power slider change and let us know! I think ill stick with it at 5, maybe when I see the stats in the long run of my season, I might change. Im averaging around 10 hits a game but with only 5 or less runs which im very happy with that, not too many hits, getting some good solid fun games, while keeping my player stats and boxscores as realistic as possible.

That's great. Keep in mind that I did walk 5x in my 2-1 game. (not bragging) but I like to work the count. So you can't get hits if you don't swing the bat! (lol). Anyway, I will report. I'm kinda depressed about moving to 8 because 5 delivers great hit variety. I'm sure 8 will not lead to a HR fest or increase the offense in a measurable way. It's simply that I have not hit a HR in 6 games and my only doubles come from Hafner and Martinez.

[HustlinOwl]

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Thanks for the input fellas and now that I think about it, it does make more sense. Using strictly "X" on veteran would produce more offense thus being on a lower difficulty level. And using strictly "X" with HOF and the power slider being bumped up considerably would also lead to more power.

Damn I wish it was 330, so my a$$ could get home and try these new findings out.

Let me start by saying this completely feels like an entire different (new) game to me with these sliders. I used the zone hitting and hit two homers in my first game using these sliders. Thanks fellas for all your help and I think I can finally start my franchise.

I decided to stay at 5, but I moved up the CPU pitch speed to default which is 10. I did this only because I play some leagues games online and do not want to get the speed all out of wack going offline to online.

Another note; Dunn actually was able to Pull a fastball down the line as well as Brandon Phillips who doubled down the line off the top of the wall. Previous sliders I have used it was so difficult to pull a fastball down the line, but now it's perfect IMO.

[pberardi]

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Let me start by saying this completely feels like an entire different (new) game to me with these sliders. I used the zone hitting and hit two homers in my first game using these sliders. Thanks fellas for all your help and I think I can finally start my franchise.

I decided to stay at 5, but I moved up the CPU pitch speed to default which is 10. I did this only because I play some leagues games online and do not want to get the speed all out of wack going offline to online.

Another note; Dunn actually was able to Pull a fastball down the line as well as Brandon Phillips who doubled down the line off the top of the wall. Previous sliders I have used it was so difficult to pull a fastball down the line, but now it's perfect IMO.

Hmmm..I wonder if a higher pitch speed makes a difference in power? I use pitch speed @ 4 and seem to lack extra base hits. A higher pitch speed may result in harder hit balls? No proof but just wondering.

What team are you using? - that matters when it comes to sliders also.