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  • The Chef
    Moderator
    • Sep 2003
    • 13684

    #121
    Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

    Originally posted by pbz06
    Well global sliders I'm using Blzer's. I kept Pitch Speed at default though (5).

    All-Star

    User/CPU sliders are default, except:

    CPU Strike Frequency: 0
    CPU Consistency: 3
    CPU Releiver Stamina: 0

    User Reliever Stamina: 0

    I believe that's it.

    I changed my User and CPU sliders to Psycho Bulk's (to try them out), but that's when my PS3 went down so I haven't had a chance to try them out yet.

    I think both him and blzer turned down the CPU timing and contact a bit, and raised the User Pitcher Control and Consistency. It makes sense because the CPU does seem to go on punishing streaks.

    Also, as you know I use the L-stick. I'm also thinking about trying "classic" for pitching, but again, I haven't been able to because of my PS3
    Wow, thats the exact same settings Ive been using prior to increasing the user pitch control in the middle of my last game. blzer and psycho both have contact and timing at 3/4 respectively and blzer has control and consistency at 5/6 and psycho has it at 6/6 for human. Ive gotta decide if I want to leave things alone and see what happens since things were going fine earlier in the year or if I want to raise consistency and control for myself and see if that helps. In a way I want to leave it since I was getting good results previously but on the other hand Im nervous to mess with it since it could make things too easy if this "natural" slump goes away and everything returns to the way it was. Thanks though for posting those sliders for me.
    http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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    • The Chef
      Moderator
      • Sep 2003
      • 13684

      #122
      Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

      I dont have the stats in front of me but I ended up putting my pitchers consistency back at default since I liked the results I was getting before some of my pitchers went to ****. I then lowered the cpu's contact to 4 and got a much better flow to the game. I was playing Colorado with Kuroda pitching, it certainly didnt start off well as I gave up 1 run in each of the first 3 innings (only 2 were earned thanks to a Furcal error) so after 3 innings Colorado had 3 runs on 6 hits but I decided to stick with Kuroda and he ended up pitching the next 4 innings giving up no runs on 4 hits so he certainly settled down. I battled back after chasing Aaron Cook out of the game and blasting Huston Street but Manny Corpas came in and slammed the door shut and Kuo gave up a run in the 10th to lose it for me but the game played much more realistic thats for sure. I may still lower the cpu's contact to 3 as Colorado hit .305 for the game but Im going to let things play out over a longer stretch before I lower it again to 3 since Colorado is actually ranked 2nd in the league in batting average right now so its not like they havent been hitting well anyways. Thanks again for all the feedback though.

      EDIT- Almost forgot, here are the exact settings Im using if anyone cares to try them...

      USER
      RP Stamina (0)

      CPU
      Contact (4)
      Consistency (3)
      Strike Frequency (0)
      RP Stamina (0)

      GLOBAL
      Fielder Run Speed (0)

      **I may end up raising the cpu's consistency back to default at some point if these hit batters issue doesnt stop as Ive been hit 6 times in my last 3 games and its starting to get a tad bit old.
      http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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      • pbz06
        Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 1504

        #123
        Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

        Originally posted by The Chef
        I dont have the stats in front of me but I ended up putting my pitchers consistency back at default since I liked the results I was getting before some of my pitchers went to ****. I then lowered the cpu's contact to 4 and got a much better flow to the game. I was playing Colorado with Kuroda pitching, it certainly didnt start off well as I gave up 1 run in each of the first 3 innings (only 2 were earned thanks to a Furcal error) so after 3 innings Colorado had 3 runs on 6 hits but I decided to stick with Kuroda and he ended up pitching the next 4 innings giving up no runs on 4 hits so he certainly settled down. I battled back after chasing Aaron Cook out of the game and blasting Huston Street but Manny Corpas came in and slammed the door shut and Kuo gave up a run in the 10th to lose it for me but the game played much more realistic thats for sure. I may still lower the cpu's contact to 3 as Colorado hit .305 for the game but Im going to let things play out over a longer stretch before I lower it again to 3 since Colorado is actually ranked 2nd in the league in batting average right now so its not like they havent been hitting well anyways. Thanks again for all the feedback though.

        EDIT- Almost forgot, here are the exact settings Im using if anyone cares to try them...

        USER
        RP Stamina (0)

        CPU
        Contact (4)
        Consistency (3)
        Strike Frequency (0)
        RP Stamina (0)

        GLOBAL
        Fielder Run Speed (0)

        **I may end up raising the cpu's consistency back to default at some point if these hit batters issue doesnt stop as Ive been hit 6 times in my last 3 games and its starting to get a tad bit old.
        I've always had the User's Consistency and Control at default...When talking about Control/Consistency, I was always referring to the CPU. I wouldn't even think about lowering it for User because the CPU punishes me enough already. If anything, it might be better to increase User Control/Consistency to 6 or higher.

        Those sliders basically are exactly what I'm using.

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        • The Chef
          Moderator
          • Sep 2003
          • 13684

          #124
          Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

          Originally posted by pbz06
          I've always had the User's Consistency and Control at default...When talking about Control/Consistency, I was always referring to the CPU. I wouldn't even think about lowering it for User because the CPU punishes me enough already. If anything, it might be better to increase User Control/Consistency to 6 or higher.

          Those sliders basically are exactly what I'm using.
          I probably asked you this before but are you seeing a ton of beaned batters by the CPU with their consistency at 3? I know in the description for this slider it mentions wild pitches, passed balls and beaned batters and Im seeing atleast 1 every single game right now. I hate to raise this as everything else is so perfect. This is exactly why SCEA needs to expand on their sliders atleast a little, dont have so many different aspects of the game tied into one slider.
          http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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          • pbz06
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 1504

            #125
            Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

            Originally posted by The Chef
            I probably asked you this before but are you seeing a ton of beaned batters by the CPU with their consistency at 3? I know in the description for this slider it mentions wild pitches, passed balls and beaned batters and Im seeing atleast 1 every single game right now. I hate to raise this as everything else is so perfect. This is exactly why SCEA needs to expand on their sliders atleast a little, dont have so many different aspects of the game tied into one slider.
            I can't really say I see more hit batters. I get hit here and there, but haven't really been paying too much attention to it to tell you for a fact if it's once a game, or once every two games etc.

            Either way, it doesn't stand out to me so I can live with a hit batter if it means having a better overall pitching experience from the CPU.

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            • The Chef
              Moderator
              • Sep 2003
              • 13684

              #126
              Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

              Originally posted by pbz06
              I can't really say I see more hit batters. I get hit here and there, but haven't really been paying too much attention to it to tell you for a fact if it's once a game, or once every two games etc.

              Either way, it doesn't stand out to me so I can live with a hit batter if it means having a better overall pitching experience from the CPU.
              I agree as long as my guys dont suddenly start going down with injuries thanks to getting beaned. Either way Im loving the pitching expierence the CPU provides from their starters, their bullpen not so much, but the starters have been playing pretty damn good.
              http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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              • pbz06
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 1504

                #127
                Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                Originally posted by The Chef
                I agree as long as my guys dont suddenly start going down with injuries thanks to getting beaned. Either way Im loving the pitching expierence the CPU provides from their starters, their bullpen not so much, but the starters have been playing pretty damn good.
                Are you still having the constant bullpen problems from the CPU? Do you know if other people have been noticing it? If you remember, I experienced it only once, where the CPU was just atrocious and obviously suffering from some glitch/hiccup or something (I scored 10 runs that inning).

                Anyway, I can't wait until I get my PS3 back. It's scheduled for April 8th!

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                • The Chef
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #128
                  Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                  Originally posted by pbz06
                  Are you still having the constant bullpen problems from the CPU? Do you know if other people have been noticing it? If you remember, I experienced it only once, where the CPU was just atrocious and obviously suffering from some glitch/hiccup or something (I scored 10 runs that inning).

                  Anyway, I can't wait until I get my PS3 back. It's scheduled for April 8th!
                  Last game I was down 5-0 and in the 8th I finally got 2 runs off of Ubaldo Jimenez so they yanked him heading into the 9th. In the 9th I teed off on Embree, Buchholz and then Street to tie the game 5-5, in the 10th I scored another run off of a different reliever, whose name escapes me, and I won 6-5 after Broxton struck out back to back batters to end the game. Now that doesnt happen every single game but 4/5 games it does and thats frusterating to say the least.
                  http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                  • dorismary
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3794

                    #129
                    Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                    Originally posted by The Chef
                    Last game I was down 5-0 and in the 8th I finally got 2 runs off of Ubaldo Jimenez so they yanked him heading into the 9th. In the 9th I teed off on Embree, Buchholz and then Street to tie the game 5-5, in the 10th I scored another run off of a different reliever, whose name escapes me, and I won 6-5 after Broxton struck out back to back batters to end the game. Now that doesnt happen every single game but 4/5 games it does and thats frusterating to say the least.
                    My last few games cpu pitch at 5-3-2 and haren beaned 4 and wp 2 but 1 player was out at home.
                    Wainwright also got a bit dicey but nothing to bad before that , lots of pitches in the dirt , not to bad overall on those sets.

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                    • The Chef
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 13684

                      #130
                      Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                      Played 2 more games before work using the sliders posted above by myself and got 2 good games again so I think Im fairly well set. When I was playing Colorado you could tell they had an offense that was pretty good and was hitting well and now Im playing SF who has gone 13/60 in the first 2 games of the series and you can tell the differences between Colorado and SF offensively atleast. My offense has picked the worst time to go into a rut, I won the first game 2-0 behind 12 hits but I could never get the big hit to bring anyone home. Game 2 I lost 1-0 and only had 4 hits total and couldnt get anything going at all, completely different game then the first one, and even though Zito walked 4 in the 6 innings he pitched I was unable to do anything with those free passes. Im 13-7 with a 1.5 game lead over Colorado currently and loving every second of it.

                      Damn this game is addicting.
                      http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                      • RogueHominid
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 10900

                        #131
                        Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                        I just posted a ridiculously long summary of my trial of Veteran in the thread on breaking Veteran gameplay, and I wanted to post in here to urge folks to try Veteran. It's no joke, and it's not a pushover level. I was too prideful to try it for a while, despite the fact that I was having to make global and pitching slider adjustments on All Star and still striking out too many times. Having the rest of the game feel good but whiffing so often was just too frustrating for me, so I tried Veteran default, with just reliever stamina and strike frequency adjusted (both to 0). The results were awesome. I posted 'em in the other thread, but suffice it to say here that if your sole problems on AS are related to judging pithes, drawing walks, and striking out too much on offense, then Veteran defautl with those two slider adjustments will likely be a very good fit.

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                        • dorismary
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3794

                          #132
                          Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                          Originally posted by The Autumn Wind
                          I just posted a ridiculously long summary of my trial of Veteran in the thread on breaking Veteran gameplay, and I wanted to post in here to urge folks to try Veteran. It's no joke, and it's not a pushover level. I was too prideful to try it for a while, despite the fact that I was having to make global and pitching slider adjustments on All Star and still striking out too many times. Having the rest of the game feel good but whiffing so often was just too frustrating for me, so I tried Veteran default, with just reliever stamina and strike frequency adjusted (both to 0). The results were awesome. I posted 'em in the other thread, but suffice it to say here that if your sole problems on AS are related to judging pithes, drawing walks, and striking out too much on offense, then Veteran defautl with those two slider adjustments will likely be a very good fit.
                          I agree to a point as I also choose veteran to start with but to mainly to deal with cpu boosts and its not to different from AS IMO.
                          When I go into playoffs I still switch my level down to Veteran to diminish overdone cpu uber boosts.

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                          • RogueHominid
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10900

                            #133
                            Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                            Originally posted by dorismary
                            I agree to a point as I also choose veteran to start with but to mainly to deal with cpu boosts and its not to different from AS IMO.
                            When I go into playoffs I still switch my level down to Veteran to diminish overdone cpu uber boosts.
                            I ran some test games, and I find that the CPU offense is quite potent on Veteran. I had the CPU hit 6 HR off of me in one game on Veteran. That never happened on AS or HOF. The game just has so much variety.

                            The main difference I notice on Veteran is with CPU pitching. The pitch speed is just a tad slower, and with strike percentage at 0, the CPU will actually throw truly lifelike strike percentages. I've seen starters throw 53, 55% strikes over the course of the game. And the pitches are just a tad easier to read.

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                            • Howie75
                              Commitment to Excellence
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1992

                              #134
                              Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                              Originally posted by The Autumn Wind
                              I ran some test games, and I find that the CPU offense is quite potent on Veteran. I had the CPU hit 6 HR off of me in one game on Veteran. That never happened on AS or HOF. The game just has so much variety.

                              The main difference I notice on Veteran is with CPU pitching. The pitch speed is just a tad slower, and with strike percentage at 0, the CPU will actually throw truly lifelike strike percentages. I've seen starters throw 53, 55% strikes over the course of the game. And the pitches are just a tad easier to read.
                              I might give veteran a whirl. I have ben getting my arse handed to me in ST so far on all star. I don't find it unfair or anything, I am just playing like crap and make some mistakes on the mound that I pay for.

                              I like what you have to say about veteran.

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                              • The Chef
                                Moderator
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 13684

                                #135
                                Re: Breaking this Game Down on AllStar ,group effort

                                So, is anyone here playing on All-Star with CPU Contact at 3? Ive had it at 4 but on the season the CPU is hitting approx. .297 against me, Im one of the worst in terms of hits allowed yet one of the best in runs allowed, lol. SF hit .292 in my last series, Colorado hit .369 in the series before that and Houston hit .327 the series before that so you can see that the CPU is hitting far too frequently yet they arent scoring runs at all. Ive noticed that some people are lowering the CPU's Contact to 3 but raising their power to 6 or 7 depending on whose sliders you check. Has anyone tried the CPU's power at 6 or 7 and what were the results? Im definitely changing the contact down to 3 as SF shouldnt go 15/36 while roughing up Billingsley, they dont have the offense to do that and yet they did it in my last game. Basically, Im looking at the following....

                                CPU Contact (3)
                                CPU Power (6-7)

                                Power sounds like the harder the ball comes off the bat but not necessarily the increase in homeruns hit, is this correct?
                                http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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