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  • Bahnzo
    Can't spell antetokounmpo
    • Jun 2003
    • 2809

    #46
    Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

    Originally posted by pbz06
    I think I'm going back to Veteran too.
    Funny you should say this. I've been back to Veteran level since my experiment with All Star, and I'm using your sliders as a starting point. Collecting stats and adjusting.

    Some changes I've made:
    Fielding errors 10 - even at 10 it's not enough, but still better.
    CPU Fouls 7 - Provides the correct amount of foul balls compared to MLB avg's.
    CPU pitcher control - 3
    CPU pitcher consistency - 4 Both the pitching settings seem to provide more balls. Might have to adjust human contact, but for now it seems fine.

    I've played maybe 6-7 games with these settings, and so far so good.
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    • pbz06
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 1504

      #47
      Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

      Originally posted by Bahnzo
      Funny you should say this. I've been back to Veteran level since my experiment with All Star, and I'm using your sliders as a starting point. Collecting stats and adjusting.

      Some changes I've made:
      Fielding errors 10 - even at 10 it's not enough, but still better.
      CPU Fouls 7 - Provides the correct amount of foul balls compared to MLB avg's.
      CPU pitcher control - 3
      CPU pitcher consistency - 4 Both the pitching settings seem to provide more balls. Might have to adjust human contact, but for now it seems fine.

      I've played maybe 6-7 games with these settings, and so far so good.
      Did you adjust the User Fouls?

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      • Bahnzo
        Can't spell antetokounmpo
        • Jun 2003
        • 2809

        #48
        Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

        Originally posted by pbz06
        Did you adjust the User Fouls?
        Yeah, 7 also.
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        • gtm
          M*t*l F*r*v*r
          • Jul 2002
          • 3946

          #49
          Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

          Bahnzo, please keep us informed and will await your slider set.
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          • Bahnzo
            Can't spell antetokounmpo
            • Jun 2003
            • 2809

            #50
            Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

            Originally posted by gtm
            Bahnzo, please keep us informed and will await your slider set.
            Thanks, I'll post them here before too long. Still waiting to get a few more games in and see how the stats compare to real life.

            Here's some horn's for ya, GTM.

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            • Bahnzo
              Can't spell antetokounmpo
              • Jun 2003
              • 2809

              #51
              Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

              Alright, here's my sliders and some stats from the last 10 games. I think it's important to note that my settings are really meant to get the CPU to play as close to real life as possible...human settings will probably need adjustment for individual players. Also worth noting...I don't use the PCI/left stick much, nor the power swing. I'm mostly a swing-only player.

              First the sliders:

              Global
              Pitch Speed: 0 (whatever you want, doesn't matter)
              Fielding Errors: 10 (needs to be 10, look at stats)
              Throwing Errors: 4
              Fielder Run Speed: 1
              Fielder Reaction: 5
              Arm Strength: 3
              Baserunner Speed: 6
              Steal Ability: 4
              Steal Freq: 5
              Wind: 3 (I like 3, more seems to give lots of wind in a lot of parks)
              Injury: 2 (whatever you feel best)

              USER

              Contact: 5
              Power: 8 (raised +1 after looking at stats)
              Timing: 5
              Fouls: 8
              Solid Hits: 5
              Starter Stam: 6
              Reliever Stam: 0
              Pitcher Control: 4
              Pitcher Consistency: 4

              CPU
              Contact: 3
              Power: 7 (again, raised +1 after looking at stats)
              Timing: 4
              Fouls: 7
              Solid Hits: 3
              Starter Stam: 6
              Reliever Stam: 0
              Pitcher Control: 3
              Pitcher Consistency: 3
              Strike Freq: 0
              Manager Hook: 7
              Pickoffs: 2


              And...the stats.
              <iframe width='505' height='400' frameborder='0' src='http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pFLe20s9yWG6BTasj-6juIA&output=html&gid=3&single=true&range=a1:d21'> </iframe>

              The only thing that troubles me are the amount of 3B's from the CPU. They are pretty high and I'm not sure what to change to combat this without effecting everything else. This could also simply be awful fielding in the outfield on my part. Also the HR's are off from both, I raised the power settings +1 for both and I think this will even things out a bit there.

              Besides those, I think they are very close to MLB averages and the CPU plays a pretty fair game of baseball. Please ignore any human stats (ie: BB), those are my fault, the CPU throws plenty of balls, I just refuse to not swing at them it seems.
              Last edited by Bahnzo; 05-06-2009, 04:04 AM.
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              • pbz06
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 1504

                #52
                Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                Bahnzo, do you know if Sliders affect simming?

                Because I would like to know slider results by simming a full 162 games, if possible.

                That way we can look at various slider settings and compare...

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                • pbz06
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1504

                  #53
                  Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                  I would also be interested in seeing the differences with the same sliders but between All-Star and Veteran

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                  • Bahnzo
                    Can't spell antetokounmpo
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 2809

                    #54
                    Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                    Originally posted by pbz06
                    I would also be interested in seeing the differences with the same sliders but between All-Star and Veteran
                    I've already done this. Look in this thread, post #25 I think, for a link to the thread where I did both. Basically, All Star doesn't swing and miss as much (or enough) and K's are off.

                    Originally posted by pbz06
                    Bahnzo, do you know if Sliders affect simming?

                    Because I would like to know slider results by simming a full 162 games, if possible.

                    That way we can look at various slider settings and compare...
                    I've no idea if they do, and don't really have any interest in finding out. I'm kinda done with keeping stats for the time being and am just going to enjoy playing games without worrying about writing everything down. It gets tedious after awhile. I'm pretty happy with this set and Veteran level, so I'm going to stick with this for now and just have fun.
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                    • pbz06
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1504

                      #55
                      Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                      Thanks...but yea I see why you would want to just play and have fun, heh. It's already May and we could be doing this until October.

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                      • cable guy
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 3285

                        #56
                        Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                        Originally posted by Bahnzo
                        Alright, here's my sliders and some stats from the last 10 games. I think it's important to note that my settings are really meant to get the CPU to play as close to real life as possible...human settings will probably need adjustment for individual players. Also worth noting...I don't use the PCI/left stick much, nor the power swing. I'm mostly a swing-only player.

                        First the sliders:

                        Global
                        Pitch Speed: 0 (whatever you want, doesn't matter)
                        Fielding Errors: 10 (needs to be 10, look at stats)
                        Throwing Errors: 4
                        Fielder Run Speed: 1
                        Fielder Reaction: 5
                        Arm Strength: 3
                        Baserunner Speed: 6
                        Steal Ability: 4
                        Steal Freq: 5
                        Wind: 3 (I like 3, more seems to give lots of wind in a lot of parks)
                        Injury: 2 (whatever you feel best)

                        USER

                        Contact: 5
                        Power: 8 (raised +1 after looking at stats)
                        Timing: 5
                        Fouls: 8
                        Solid Hits: 5
                        Starter Stam: 6
                        Reliever Stam: 0
                        Pitcher Control: 4
                        Pitcher Consistency: 4

                        CPU
                        Contact: 3
                        Power: 7 (again, raised +1 after looking at stats)
                        Timing: 4
                        Fouls: 7
                        Solid Hits: 3
                        Starter Stam: 6
                        Reliever Stam: 0
                        Pitcher Control: 3
                        Pitcher Consistency: 3
                        Strike Freq: 0
                        Manager Hook: 7
                        Pickoffs: 2


                        And...the stats.
                        <IFRAME src="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pFLe20s9yWG6BTasj-6juIA&output=html&gid=3&single=true&range=a1:d21" frameBorder=0 width=505 height=400></IFRAME>

                        The only thing that troubles me are the amount of 3B's from the CPU. They are pretty high and I'm not sure what to change to combat this without effecting everything else. This could also simply be awful fielding in the outfield on my part. Also the HR's are off from both, I raised the power settings +1 for both and I think this will even things out a bit there.

                        Besides those, I think they are very close to MLB averages and the CPU plays a pretty fair game of baseball. Please ignore any human stats (ie: BB), those are my fault, the CPU throws plenty of balls, I just refuse to not swing at them it seems.
                        Look really good, very similar to my hum and cpu hit sliders.

                        Are you using classic or meter pitching? Sorry if I missed it.

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                        • Bahnzo
                          Can't spell antetokounmpo
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 2809

                          #57
                          Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                          Originally posted by cable guy
                          Are you using classic or meter pitching? Sorry if I missed it.
                          Meter pitching...sorry I didn't specify.
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                          • gtm
                            M*t*l F*r*v*r
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3946

                            #58
                            Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                            Bahnzo, when will you start your dynasty? Also, r these your final settings.
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                            • BIG CAROLINA
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1762

                              #59
                              Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                              Originally posted by Bahnzo
                              Alright, here's my sliders and some stats from the last 10 games. I think it's important to note that my settings are really meant to get the CPU to play as close to real life as possible...human settings will probably need adjustment for individual players. Also worth noting...I don't use the PCI/left stick much, nor the power swing. I'm mostly a swing-only player.

                              First the sliders:

                              Global
                              Pitch Speed: 0 (whatever you want, doesn't matter)
                              Fielding Errors: 10 (needs to be 10, look at stats)
                              Throwing Errors: 4
                              Fielder Run Speed: 1
                              Fielder Reaction: 5
                              Arm Strength: 3
                              Baserunner Speed: 6
                              Steal Ability: 4
                              Steal Freq: 5
                              Wind: 3 (I like 3, more seems to give lots of wind in a lot of parks)
                              Injury: 2 (whatever you feel best)

                              USER

                              Contact: 5
                              Power: 8 (raised +1 after looking at stats)
                              Timing: 5
                              Fouls: 8
                              Solid Hits: 5
                              Starter Stam: 6
                              Reliever Stam: 0
                              Pitcher Control: 4
                              Pitcher Consistency: 4

                              CPU
                              Contact: 3
                              Power: 7 (again, raised +1 after looking at stats)
                              Timing: 4
                              Fouls: 7
                              Solid Hits: 3
                              Starter Stam: 6
                              Reliever Stam: 0
                              Pitcher Control: 3
                              Pitcher Consistency: 3
                              Strike Freq: 0
                              Manager Hook: 7
                              Pickoffs: 2


                              And...the stats.
                              <iframe src="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pFLe20s9yWG6BTasj-6juIA&output=html&gid=3&single=true&range=a1:d21" width="505" frameborder="0" height="400"></iframe>

                              The only thing that troubles me are the amount of 3B's from the CPU. They are pretty high and I'm not sure what to change to combat this without effecting everything else. This could also simply be awful fielding in the outfield on my part. Also the HR's are off from both, I raised the power settings +1 for both and I think this will even things out a bit there.

                              Besides those, I think they are very close to MLB averages and the CPU plays a pretty fair game of baseball. Please ignore any human stats (ie: BB), those are my fault, the CPU throws plenty of balls, I just refuse to not swing at them it seems.
                              I agree with you that there needs to be more errors, but when I raise the Human and/or CPU error slider above 6, I see toooo many dropped balls while trying to turn the double play from SS to 2nd.

                              This was pre-patch though, just got the patch today so I will try it.
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                              • Bahnzo
                                Can't spell antetokounmpo
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 2809

                                #60
                                Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk

                                Originally posted by gtm
                                Bahnzo, when will you start your dynasty? Also, r these your final settings.
                                I've already got two going....A Rockies and an Indians. The only change I might make is the CPU pitching +1 for both (not strike freq, but the other two). I've all of a sudden started hitting the crap outta them....24 hits in two games. Have to wait and see if it's just a small streak.
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