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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
Thank you BAHNZO'
After playing about a hundred games of all star and hof I decided to try veteran with your sliders.
without typing a post that would take up most of this page let me just say in one sample game it was the best game ever.
Orioles against my Red Sox
Iost 9-8 in 10 innings.
All my games on the other levels were 2-1, or 3-2 ect..
The hit variety was amazing.
I hit one so high of the big wall in right at Camden that Ortiz actually got a triple.
I hit one that took a high hop over Mora's head, and actually grounded into a 5-4-3 triple play.
I have never had such variety in one game let alone 20 games on the other levels with varius slider sets.
Not sure if its your sliders or playing on veteran difficulty but its the most fun i've had playing The Show.
Thanks again Bahnzo!:wink:Comment
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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
After trying All-Star (again), it's apparent that Veteran is the level for me this year. I'm using Dr. Ursus's sliders with a few of my personal tweaks.
Randomly selected a team for Franchise and am going to run with the Royals. Won the first game 4-2. Greinke was solid, striking out 6 in 6 innings. He gave up 9 hits and the White Sox had 13 total, while I finished with 14 hits.Currently Playing:
MLB The Show 25 (PS5)Comment
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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
Thank you BAHNZO'
After playing about a hundred games of all star and hof I decided to try veteran with your sliders.
without typing a post that would take up most of this page let me just say in one sample game it was the best game ever.
Orioles against my Red Sox
Iost 9-8 in 10 innings.
All my games on the other levels were 2-1, or 3-2 ect..
The hit variety was amazing.
I hit one so high of the big wall in right at Camden that Ortiz actually got a triple.
I hit one that took a high hop over Mora's head, and actually grounded into a 5-4-3 triple play.
I have never had such variety in one game let alone 20 games on the other levels with varius slider sets.
Not sure if its your sliders or playing on veteran difficulty but its the most fun i've had playing The Show.
Thanks again Bahnzo!:wink:Steam: BahnzoComment
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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
Pretty much swing only, but in certain situations (like double play) if the pitcher tends to throw low in the zone, I'll use it then.Steam: BahnzoComment
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ok, once again thanks for the reply. i'm going to go ahead and give the API a try on your sliders and see how things go.Comment
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Sometimes all it takes is for a person to swallow his pride ...
For some reason I was really resistant against putting Pitch Speed at 0. I'm not sure why, but I thought I could handle pitches at the default speed. WRONG! I was struggling, big-time, to hit home runs and for that matter, any kind of extra-base hit.
Well, I finally bucked-up and dropped the pitch speed down to 0 and WOW, what a difference! I can actually read pitches now and go deeper in counts. I was playing an exhibition game Pittsburgh (CPU vs. Atlanta (me) and with McCann I fell behind 0-2 but stayed patient, worked the count to 3-2 and eventually hit an RBI single to center. In the past I would've been guessing and swinging at anything close because I felt like I couldn't catch up otherwise. Now, I can actually take that split-second, read the pitch and location and then decide to swing.
Bahnzo, those sliders you posted are right on the money. I was using something similar but made a few tweaks to mirror your set and man, the game plays great for me. I threw 8 solid innings with Derek Lowe, striking out 10 batters. I won that game against Pittsburgh 10-3 thanks to a 5-run 8th inning where I batted around. I had my first 2-HR game in I don't know how long and also had a pair of doubles. I think Fielder Reaction at 5 works better than at 10; you see more variety of hits and the fielders still make good plays on the ball.
My enthusiasm for this game is totally renewed and now I just need to settle in on a team to use in Franchise and I'm good to go.Currently Playing:
MLB The Show 25 (PS5)Comment
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Well, not sure if I all of a sudden figured this game out or what, but man, Veteran is seeming to be too easy for me.
I'm getting on average 15 hits a game and the only runs I allow to the CPU are solo home runs. I'm averaging around 10K's a game, while I'm only striking out 2-4 times a game.
I think I may take these sliders, make a couple of small tweaks and bump things up to All-Star again and see what the difference between the two levels is.
Veteran is a good level to get your bearings at in this game but eventually, hitting becomes too easy. At least for me.
I know some will say to up the pitch speed slider but I tried that on all levels and my reaction time is garbage. Zero is the right speed for me and my timing.Currently Playing:
MLB The Show 25 (PS5)Comment
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Alright, here's my sliders and some stats from the last 10 games. I think it's important to note that my settings are really meant to get the CPU to play as close to real life as possible...human settings will probably need adjustment for individual players. Also worth noting...I don't use the PCI/left stick much, nor the power swing. I'm mostly a swing-only player.
First the sliders:
Global
Pitch Speed: 0 (whatever you want, doesn't matter)
Fielding Errors: 10 (needs to be 10, look at stats)
Throwing Errors: 4
Fielder Run Speed: 1
Fielder Reaction: 5
Arm Strength: 3
Baserunner Speed: 6
Steal Ability: 4
Steal Freq: 5
Wind: 3 (I like 3, more seems to give lots of wind in a lot of parks)
Injury: 2 (whatever you feel best)
USER
Contact: 5
Power: 8 (raised +1 after looking at stats)
Timing: 5
Fouls: 8
Solid Hits: 5
Starter Stam: 6
Reliever Stam: 0
Pitcher Control: 4
Pitcher Consistency: 4
CPU
Contact: 3
Power: 7 (again, raised +1 after looking at stats)
Timing: 4
Fouls: 7
Solid Hits: 3
Starter Stam: 6
Reliever Stam: 0
Pitcher Control: 3
Pitcher Consistency: 3
Strike Freq: 0
Manager Hook: 7
Pickoffs: 2
And...the stats.
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The only thing that troubles me are the amount of 3B's from the CPU. They are pretty high and I'm not sure what to change to combat this without effecting everything else. This could also simply be awful fielding in the outfield on my part. Also the HR's are off from both, I raised the power settings +1 for both and I think this will even things out a bit there.
Besides those, I think they are very close to MLB averages and the CPU plays a pretty fair game of baseball. Please ignore any human stats (ie: BB), those are my fault, the CPU throws plenty of balls, I just refuse to not swing at them it seems.Comment
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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
Well, not sure if I all of a sudden figured this game out or what, but man, Veteran is seeming to be too easy for me.
I'm getting on average 15 hits a game and the only runs I allow to the CPU are solo home runs. I'm averaging around 10K's a game, while I'm only striking out 2-4 times a game.
I think I may take these sliders, make a couple of small tweaks and bump things up to All-Star again and see what the difference between the two levels is.
Veteran is a good level to get your bearings at in this game but eventually, hitting becomes too easy. At least for me.
I know some will say to up the pitch speed slider but I tried that on all levels and my reaction time is garbage. Zero is the right speed for me and my timing.
One thing that stands out about AS level is the CPU pitching up in the zone is much more effective. On veteran it became too easy to lay off pitches up in the zone and murder low and middle strikes.Comment
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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
I've played with Trinity's Veteran set...different feel to the game, but a good one...are people still getting a productive realistic game with these sliders......they seem interestingCardinals Nation - For The Lou
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I've gotten some PM's about this set that I posted in this thread, asking if I'd made any changes. So I went back and looked at them and I've made more than I'd originally thought. Thought I'd update them for anyone interested.
Changes are marked in BOLD RED and has the amount changed +/- next to them.
The biggest change has been with the pitching. For starters, I've improved as a hitter quite a bit, so I needed to improve the AI pitching as well. Raising the control to 5 doesn't seem to change the amount of balls they throw, just how well they locate their pitches. I still walk 3-4 times a game, the AI just doesn't throw as many down the middle as they did before. I also raised the Human control because I noticed it was also just throwing too many down the middle. A control setting of 6 allows you to nibble the corners and yet still walk a good amount of batters. Stamina was raised universally. I use classic pitching and starters with excellent stamina ratings were tiring after 80 pitches or so...the new settings allow me to pitch into the 100's if I'm careful. Reliever stamina at 0 was just too low.
Overall I'm still playing these and having excellent games. I'm playing a real-time franchise with the Rockies, playing 1 game now every day to mirror them in real life. I'm using Knights rosters (v6 I think, the all stock ones with real minors). I update my teams attributes as SCEA does in their rosters and make daily changes to follow the MLB transactions. I'm 42-38, so I'd say that's a pretty good reflection of the Rockies so far this year.Comment
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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
I've gotten some PM's about this set that I posted in this thread, asking if I'd made any changes. So I went back and looked at them and I've made more than I'd originally thought. Thought I'd update them for anyone interested.
Changes are marked in BOLD RED and has the amount changed +/- next to them.
The biggest change has been with the pitching. For starters, I've improved as a hitter quite a bit, so I needed to improve the AI pitching as well. Raising the control to 5 doesn't seem to change the amount of balls they throw, just how well they locate their pitches. I still walk 3-4 times a game, the AI just doesn't throw as many down the middle as they did before. I also raised the Human control because I noticed it was also just throwing too many down the middle. A control setting of 6 allows you to nibble the corners and yet still walk a good amount of batters. Stamina was raised universally. I use classic pitching and starters with excellent stamina ratings were tiring after 80 pitches or so...the new settings allow me to pitch into the 100's if I'm careful. Reliever stamina at 0 was just too low.
Overall I'm still playing these and having excellent games. I'm playing a real-time franchise with the Rockies, playing 1 game now every day to mirror them in real life. I'm using Knights rosters (v6 I think, the all stock ones with real minors). I update my teams attributes as SCEA does in their rosters and make daily changes to follow the MLB transactions. I'm 42-38, so I'd say that's a pretty good reflection of the Rockies so far this year.
I only play Playoffs and I had the best game I ever played !!! Even though I threw a few wild pitches I felt like I had some control in the game which is key for me win or lose I just want a chance .
Well I was the Chi Sox vs Texas at the Cell/Comiskey and just had a game that had everything and just at a perfect enjoyable pace .
Well I was down 4-2 in the ninth after a pitchers duel intil the 8th .
My soxs really played like the sox scoring all their runs off HRS
Well in the 9th AJ walked off Cordero then Alexi hit a two run blast second of the day on a 3-1 count to tie it and then Quinten hits walk off on a 1-0 count and I went nuts not because the HR but because the gameplay played very fair and I always felt like I had a chance even when I was in trouble .
I know its a old thread but I always give thanksComment
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Re: Veteran Level play and Slider talk
Hey I found these in the search and just wanted to tell you great job
I only play Playoffs and I had the best game I ever played !!! Even though I threw a few wild pitches I felt like I had some control in the game which is key for me win or lose I just want a chance .
Well I was the Chi Sox vs Texas at the Cell/Comiskey and just had a game that had everything and just at a perfect enjoyable pace .
Well I was down 4-2 in the ninth after a pitchers duel intil the 8th .
My soxs really played like the sox scoring all their runs off HRS
Well in the 9th AJ walked off Cordero then Alexi hit a two run blast second of the day on a 3-1 count to tie it and then Quinten hits walk off on a 1-0 count and I went nuts not because the HR but because the gameplay played very fair and I always felt like I had a chance even when I was in trouble .
I know its a old thread but I always give thanksComment
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