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  • ballin095
    Pro
    • Jan 2008
    • 536

    #1

    Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

    New Edit: Look below

    Hello guys. Thanks for showing interest for using these sliders. I hate writing these introductions but here we go..

    First before I display my set or multiple sets( which I'll explain later), I would like to say that these are probably the most realistic sliders that I feel that you can create in a game. Note though when I say realistic, i mean it. To make contact you really have to be on a pitch, and you really need to be able to know what to do in several different situations. And the one thing that I tried to emphasize is that everything that you do in the game feels as if YOU are in control of what happened. And I think this is the prime reason why so many people are frustrated in this game. When you pitch, you do everything put just the right amount of power in a pitch, hit the release point perfectly, yet this pitch is STILL down the center of the plate. With these sliders, that is eliminated.

    Now, secondly, the thing I also emphasized in these sliders is hitting. First off, for my set, i have both user and cpu contact at 0. I know, I know, WTF?? Are You INSANE? No i'm not insane, let me explain. First let me talk about the human contact. Remember when I said I was trying to produce the most realistic cliders set? Well with human contact at 0, this is what you get. Everything is depended on what you do while at the plate. For example, if a pitch is low, and you aim the left stick up, the pitch is more than likely going to be either an out, foul, or swing through. Same with timing. If a pitch is up, and you aim up, but your timing is early/late or even sligtly early/late, the pitch is either going to be out, or foul. This really gives that next level of realism as you can't just magically it the ball when you aim at a completely different point. Now for the cpu. The contact is at 0 mainly for the same reason as the user. Except 1 thing. You know when you are in games where the cpu just hits a ball that is way off the plate and you're like "WTF!! How did they hit that?" well at 0, just like the human contact slider, the cpu has to be on a pith to hit it.

    Last note before the actual set. Remember when I posted earlier "multiple sets"? well I understand that not everyone is at the same level of skill. So I have made 4 seperate sets. Easy(for your new/ not too skilled player that is trouble with the game), Normal(for your average skilled player), Hard( the default or sim-like slider set), and Very Hard ( for ONLY the best of the best players who need the hardest of hard to get any type of challenge from this game). And will be alligned so Easy/Normal/Hard/Very Hard. So without futher or do, here we go.

    Note: I will write explanations for some of my changes.

    Settings

    Difficulty: All-Star
    Pitching Interface: Meter
    Guess Pitch: No Feedback
    Batting View: Offset

    *All slider settings start from 0, so 5 would mean 5 clicks to the right from the bar being empty.

    Note: * Means Optional Setting

    GLOBAL SLIDERS


    Pitch speed:* 0/0/0/0
    Fielding errors: 7/7/7/7
    Throwing errors: 7/7/7/7
    (I find a good balnce with these two sliders set the way they are)
    Fielder run speed: 0/0/0/0
    (Runners In this game run way too fast. Plus this allows for more hit variety)
    Fielder reaction:5/5/5/5
    This Slider Doen't need to be tickenered with)
    Fielder arm strength:4/4/4/4
    (Good at where they are)
    Baserunner speed: 5/5/5/5
    (Doen't need to be tinckered with)
    Baserunner steal ability:4/4/4/4
    (Perfect balance, altough I may change to 3)
    Baserunner steal frequency: 5/5/5/5
    (Good at where it's at)
    Wind: 6/6/6/6
    (Find it perfect at this setting)
    Injury frequency: 5/5/5/5


    USER SLIDERS

    Contact: 4/2/0/0
    Power: 2/2/2/2
    (I see the perfect amount of homeruns with these settings)
    Timing: 6/3/0/0
    (Really makes it so that ou need to read the pitch out of the pitcher's hand, and allows for much more deeper counts)
    Fouls:10/10/10/10
    (Allows for much deeper pitch counts)
    Solid hits: 6/5/5/5
    (This really shouldn't be bothered with being that it affect batting average)
    Starter stamina: 5/5/5/5
    Reliever stamina: 0/0/0/0
    Pitcher control: 9/8/7/6
    Pitcher consistency: 9/8/7/6
    (These are probably the most important sliders. As discussed earler, with these setting where they are at, it really makes it so that the way you pitch is up to you. if you make a perfect pitch, just enough power, hitting the right realease point, the pitch is either going to go where you want, or around the area that you threw the pitch)

    CPU SLIDERS

    Contact: 0/0/0/4
    Power: 2/2/2/2
    (Again perfect setting)
    Timing: 0/0/0/4
    (Read User setting)
    Fouls: 10/10/10/10
    (Read User setting)
    Solid hits: 3/5/5/7
    (Read User setting)
    Starter stamina: 5/5/5/5
    Reliever stamina: 0/0/0/0
    Pitcher Control: 1/1/1/6
    Pitcher consistency: 2/2/2/5
    Strike Frequency: 0/0/0/0
    (With These settings, you really get realistic pitch counts, and really makes the game much more realistic)

    So that's all. Thanks for viewing, and please leave feedback.

    All On Sport's Connect As Shaun's All-Star Sliders

    *Edit: Changed pitch speed to 0. With my new setting at 0 and batting angle, offset, this allows you time to recognize and engage the pitch coming at you.
    Last edited by ballin095; 05-24-2009, 09:59 PM.
  • johnnydangerously
    Rookie
    • Dec 2008
    • 85

    #2
    Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Realistic Slider Set Available

    These sound great, and thanks for explaining your reasoning behind them. I'll try these out today, more than likely on your "Easy" or "Medium" settings.

    I wonder if these will cut down on those games that wind up something like 6-4, with 10+ hits a side?

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    • DiceMan
      NBA All Life Team
      • Mar 2004
      • 2050

      #3
      Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

      Sounds interesting Ballin. I may give these a shot and see how they work out.
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      • DiceMan
        NBA All Life Team
        • Mar 2004
        • 2050

        #4
        Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

        Wow these are really hard dude!! i thought I was halfways decent in this game.....lol. I keep striking out.
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        • ballin095
          Pro
          • Jan 2008
          • 536

          #5
          Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

          Originally posted by DiceMan
          Wow these are really hard dude!! i thought I was halfways decent in this game.....lol. I keep striking out.
          LOL, i know. How do you strike out???

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          • DiceMan
            NBA All Life Team
            • Mar 2004
            • 2050

            #6
            Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

            Originally posted by ballin095
            LOL, i know. How do you strike out???
            Overanxious...I swing way too much. Seems like I'm above or below everything. I'm gonna try em for a few games thoogh. I kinda like the fact that it comes down to what I do with controller at the plate.

            One question...would you make any changes if your using classic pitching instead of meter?
            Last edited by DiceMan; 05-03-2009, 05:57 PM.
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            • ballin095
              Pro
              • Jan 2008
              • 536

              #7
              Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

              Originally posted by DiceMan
              Overanxious...I swing way too much. Seems like I'm above or below everything. I'm gonna try em for a few games thoogh. I kinda like the fact that it comes down to what I do with controller at the plate.

              One question...would you make any changes if your using classic pitching instead of meter?
              LOL, keep practicing man. If you're still having problems lower pitch speed until you feel comfortable enough hitting. As for classic, I would probably have both pitcher cons and control settings either at 5/5 or 6/6.

              Also, which set are you using?, easy, normal, etc.

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              • DiceMan
                NBA All Life Team
                • Mar 2004
                • 2050

                #8
                Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                Originally posted by ballin095
                LOL, keep practicing man. If you're still having problems lower pitch speed until you feel comfortable enough hitting. As for classic, I would probably have both pitcher cons and control settings either at 5/5 or 6/6.

                Also, which set are you using?, easy, normal, etc.
                That's why I like this set so far, I have to actually think about what i'm doing. I just hit a 3 run HR with Damon so I did something right. I'm using your hard set as the way I read it this is your completely sim set correct?
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                • ballin095
                  Pro
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 536

                  #9
                  Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                  Originally posted by DiceMan
                  That's why I like this set so far, I have to actually think about what i'm doing. I just hit a 3 run HR with Damon so I did something right. I'm using your hard set as the way I read it this is your completely sim set correct?
                  Yeah. i was just about to mention that. You really have to think about what you're doing or you WILL get burned.

                  Last question, how else is everything playing out for you?

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                  • DiceMan
                    NBA All Life Team
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2050

                    #10
                    Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                    Originally posted by ballin095
                    Yeah. i was just about to mention that. You really have to think about what you're doing or you WILL get burned.

                    Last question, how else is everything playing out for you?
                    All else seems to be good. Of course I will have to play multiple games to give you an accurate read. I may just start a fake franchise with your sliders to play a few games with them.
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                    • ballin095
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 536

                      #11
                      Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                      Originally posted by DiceMan
                      All else seems to be good. Of course I will have to play multiple games to give you an accurate read. I may just start a fake franchise with your sliders to play a few games with them.
                      Cool let me know what you come up with.

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                      • DiceMan
                        NBA All Life Team
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2050

                        #12
                        Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                        Just wanted to post stats from my first game. I started a dummy franchise with the Dodgers and played the Padres:


                        Dodgers 4 8 1
                        Padres 2 6 1

                        I hit 3 HRs (Loney for one and Kemp had 2). The cpu offense was held in check most of the game as I was lighting them with up Kuroda striking out 5 of the firist 6 batters faced. Then they got to within one run in the 6th but I got my homer in the 7th and closed the door on them. Had a lot of multi pitch at bats both ways with a lot of pitches fouled off. Peavy went about 6 1/3 and threw between 80-87 pitches (didn't remember to keep track...sorry).

                        Overall they work great so far. I just need to work on my patience at the plate as I am a hacker by nature.
                        I struke out 12 times....lol.
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                        • Dolfan349
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 179

                          #13
                          Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                          How are the walk totals with these sliders? I really hate averaging 1BB per game, and it's not because I'm swinging at ball four or not taking counts deep enough. With every other slider set I've used, the four-pitch walk is non-existant.

                          The cpu goes 3-0, then instantly paints the black three or four times in a row, requiring 7-8 pitches of fouling off before they throw a blatant ball...

                          I'll give these a shot and see what it's like.

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                          • ballin095
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 536

                            #14
                            Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                            Originally posted by Dolfan349
                            How are the walk totals with these sliders? I really hate averaging 1BB per game, and it's not because I'm swinging at ball four or not taking counts deep enough. With every other slider set I've used, the four-pitch walk is non-existant.

                            The cpu goes 3-0, then instantly paints the black three or four times in a row, requiring 7-8 pitches of fouling off before they throw a blatant ball...

                            I'll give these a shot and see what it's like.
                            Trust me, as long as you're patient, you willget walks. You just have to earn them.

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                            • Dolfan349
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 179

                              #15
                              Re: Ballin095's All-Star Sliders... Probably The Most Sim-Like Slider Set Available

                              Well, so far so good. In three games with another slider set I drew three walks, and in two games with this set, I've drawn 10!

                              I've been hitting HRs and doubles, so everything on the human hitting side and cpu pitching side looks pretty realistic.

                              I think human pitching or cpu hitting is a bit off -- I shutout the Mets with Andrew Miller... he K'ed 10 and only walked three while holding them to TWO hits.

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