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  • DrUrsus
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2687

    #196
    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

    Originally posted by jhamlin1971
    Like many other people in this thread, I have been completely frustrated with this game. I gave up playing it, then I started researching sliders and decided to give yours a shot. I must say it brought life back into the game for me, now I am having close games (had a walk off home run with Kevin Youkilis, what a rush!) and actually have the ability to win now. Just wanted to say thanks for the great work and making this game playable again!
    I was frustrated too, and still am about some aspects of this game, but overall it is still a good game. Some of my enthusiasm has wained recently. My biggest problem is if the CPU pitcher gets real confident early on, it gets really really tough to hit them. I know that happens in real life too, but in this game, some rookie right up from AA becomes Randy Johnson in his prime or Gregg Maddux if you don't start out well against them. It needs to be toned down next year, that is all I can say about it, lol.

    These sliders were definitely made to try to equalize some of that, but it can only do so much. At least we are having fun games most of the time. I know some people think these sliders are too easy, but those are the guys that rake. These aren't for those guys or they will end up with too many hits because they overcome the CPU pitcher confidence early on in the game.

    I hope to get a game in tonight.

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    • Minzey
      Rookie
      • Jul 2009
      • 50

      #197
      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

      Hey doc, can you please post your most updated sliders for me. Id appreciate it.


      P.S- Is physco's sliders veteran?

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      • DrUrsus
        MVP
        • Apr 2006
        • 2687

        #198
        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

        Originally posted by Minzey
        Hey doc, can you please post your most updated sliders for me. Id appreciate it.


        P.S- Is physco's sliders veteran?
        Sure Minzy, the front page is the most updated sliders. I haven't made any changes in a while. Psychos sliders are All-Star. My sliders are all-star, but work for veteran too. They may be too easy on veteran for some people however. Some people have said it is harder to it in veteran in general which is funny, but I am not sure since I haven't played veteran this year very much. I definitely recommend you play my sliders on All-star since they were made more for that level and the game plays really good on this level with these sliders. If you can rake with the bat, these sliders might have to be tweaked for you. Have fun, brotha! I have the day off finally and hope to get a few games in today.

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        • The Chef
          Moderator
          • Sep 2003
          • 13684

          #199
          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

          Hey DrUrsus, its been awhile since we got a chance to bs about sliders since I was more focused on other games recently but now that Im getting back into the game I have a few slider related questions and I figured you were the best person to ask.

          1. I downloaded the patches, as I didnt before since I had already started my franchise far before it and didnt want any problems, and Im noticing that the CPU's offense is just incredible, I mean unbelievable. Now it was only one game so Im not sure if it was a by-product of a fluke game or the patch that did it but Kuroda was having a great season and then suddenly gave up 11 runs in 2.2 innings, thats insane. It was just the most ridiculous game Ive ever played, pitches aimed low were ending up belt high and inside, nothing seemed to play like it did before I downloaded the patch. After that lengthy explanation, did you find it necessary to tweak sliders once you downloaded the patches and started playing?

          2. With any set of sliders there are always drawbacks, areas that you werent able to perfect but because everything else is so good you are able to overlook the few drawbacks that remain. In your opinion, or anyone elses that wants to chime in, what areas would qualify as drawbacks still that you werent able to correct with sliders but are done attempting to fix?

          Thanks in advance.
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          • pbz06
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 1504

            #200
            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

            Originally posted by The Chef
            Hey DrUrsus, its been awhile since we got a chance to bs about sliders since I was more focused on other games recently but now that Im getting back into the game I have a few slider related questions and I figured you were the best person to ask.

            1. I downloaded the patches, as I didnt before since I had already started my franchise far before it and didnt want any problems, and Im noticing that the CPU's offense is just incredible, I mean unbelievable. Now it was only one game so Im not sure if it was a by-product of a fluke game or the patch that did it but Kuroda was having a great season and then suddenly gave up 11 runs in 2.2 innings, thats insane. It was just the most ridiculous game Ive ever played, pitches aimed low were ending up belt high and inside, nothing seemed to play like it did before I downloaded the patch. After that lengthy explanation, did you find it necessary to tweak sliders once you downloaded the patches and started playing?

            2. With any set of sliders there are always drawbacks, areas that you werent able to perfect but because everything else is so good you are able to overlook the few drawbacks that remain. In your opinion, or anyone elses that wants to chime in, what areas would qualify as drawbacks still that you werent able to correct with sliders but are done attempting to fix?

            Thanks in advance.
            (1) I recently won a game 13-12, and then followed it with a 1-0 loss in game two of the series. I wouldn't put too much stock into it, as I don't think it has anything to do with the patch or sliders. The game just sometimes feels a little rubber band-ish or scripted with the CPU and its offense.

            (2) I think this goes along the lines with my first answer. I'm not seeing a lot of manufacturing by the CPU, never have and probably never will. Doesn't matter the sliders or the difficulty level. I rarely see a single, walk, sacrifice, and two groundouts to score a run. The CPU still mostly gets their runs in little spurts or barrages where it feels scripted (all my pitches get caught in the tractor beam) and there's nothing I can do about it. It's usually a 3-spot still, just how I've always complained about this. Once they get their 3 runs, they go down easily after that. If they do score a single run in an inning, it's from a solo homerun, and nothing else, lol.

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            • The Chef
              Moderator
              • Sep 2003
              • 13684

              #201
              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

              Originally posted by pbz06
              (1) I recently won a game 13-12, and then followed it with a 1-0 loss in game two of the series. I wouldn't put too much stock into it, as I don't think it has anything to do with the patch or sliders. The game just sometimes feels a little rubber band-ish or scripted with the CPU and its offense.

              (2) I think this goes along the lines with my first answer. I'm not seeing a lot of manufacturing by the CPU, never have and probably never will. Doesn't matter the sliders or the difficulty level. I rarely see a single, walk, sacrifice, and two groundouts to score a run. The CPU still mostly gets their runs in little spurts or barrages where it feels scripted (all my pitches get caught in the tractor beam) and there's nothing I can do about it. It's usually a 3-spot still, just how I've always complained about this. Once they get their 3 runs, they go down easily after that. If they do score a single run in an inning, it's from a solo homerun, and nothing else, lol.
              Aww, good ole pbz, we havent talked in awhile either. So you didnt notice any negative effects in the gameplay after downloading the patches? It was just weird, I was doing pretty good with my pitching staff, downloaded the patch, and suddenly they were just killing me and strangely enough they were manufacturing most of those runs. Im on the fence if I should restart another franchise or not at this point, thanks to my last one having issues causing me to delete it, as it would require I find sliders all over again, rosters all over again and start tweaking all over again and Im not looking forward to that at all. I would love to hear more feedback, how are things going in your game currently? Are you using the exact sliders the Doc posted at the start of this thread? What rosters are you using exactly?
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              • pbz06
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 1504

                #202
                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                Heh, yea I'm still around and playing when I can.

                I can't say I noticed anything wierd about the game after the patch. It has felt the same to me, but then again I'm now 100 games deep so I can't even say I remember how it was before the patch anyway.

                I wish the CPU manufactured on me, but that has never been the case no matter what sliders I use(d). It's always off rocket singles, laser doubles, and grooved homerun balls. Heh. And it's always in short bursts.

                I just use SCEA rosters, whichever ones were "current" when I started my Season (81 games, I don't do franchise).

                I still have Dr.Ursus sliders for the most part. My hitting (in terms of batting average) has gotten better and was in the .295 range consistently, so I notched it down to User Contact 4. My pitching has also gotten better, especially since I use Classic which eliminates the human error of hitting the meter, so I turned down my User Control to 5, and User Consistency to 3.

                Other than that, everything is what DrUrsus uses.

                My stats and CPU stats look pretty good overall. After my 81 games with Toronto, all the team statistics seemed really close to real life averages. The team batting averages were all a little high, for me and the CPU controlled teams though. Meaning there were a lot of teams in the .280-.295 range, but I think that's the just the way the game is. I don't want to lower the CPU Contact any more in fear that User pitching will be too good.

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                • Gagnon39
                  Windy City Sports Fan
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 8544

                  #203
                  Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                  I have been playing around with these sliders a bit and have noticed that he solid hits slider makes a HUGE difference in gameplay. With the CPU's solid hits set to 3 I can throw the ball where ever I want and not worry about it. I consistently pitch 7-8 innings giving up very few runs. However with solid hits at 4 the CPU smokes everything. Home runs, doubles, you name it. I don't know what to do because I have been using these sliders and other than the issue with solid hits everything is good. Any suggestions?
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                  • Whitesox
                    Closet pyromaniac
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 5287

                    #204
                    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                    How many games did you test that? Did you consistently use aces?

                    In my season, I am using these and I am having a hard time pitching. I need to take my time and think about the consiquences for each pitch.
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                    • DrUrsus
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2687

                      #205
                      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                      Originally posted by The Chef
                      Hey DrUrsus, its been awhile since we got a chance to bs about sliders since I was more focused on other games recently but now that Im getting back into the game I have a few slider related questions and I figured you were the best person to ask.

                      1. I downloaded the patches, as I didnt before since I had already started my franchise far before it and didnt want any problems, and Im noticing that the CPU's offense is just incredible, I mean unbelievable. Now it was only one game so Im not sure if it was a by-product of a fluke game or the patch that did it but Kuroda was having a great season and then suddenly gave up 11 runs in 2.2 innings, thats insane. It was just the most ridiculous game Ive ever played, pitches aimed low were ending up belt high and inside, nothing seemed to play like it did before I downloaded the patch. After that lengthy explanation, did you find it necessary to tweak sliders once you downloaded the patches and started playing?

                      2. With any set of sliders there are always drawbacks, areas that you werent able to perfect but because everything else is so good you are able to overlook the few drawbacks that remain. In your opinion, or anyone elses that wants to chime in, what areas would qualify as drawbacks still that you werent able to correct with sliders but are done attempting to fix?

                      Thanks in advance.
                      Chef, as I usually am, lol, I am in agreement with pbz on everything he had to say.

                      As far as the patch, I was still tweaking after I got the patch, so I really can't say for sure, but I tend to agree with pbz about that too.

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                      • DrUrsus
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2687

                        #206
                        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                        Originally posted by pbz06
                        (1) I recently won a game 13-12, and then followed it with a 1-0 loss in game two of the series. I wouldn't put too much stock into it, as I don't think it has anything to do with the patch or sliders. The game just sometimes feels a little rubber band-ish or scripted with the CPU and its offense.

                        (2) I think this goes along the lines with my first answer. I'm not seeing a lot of manufacturing by the CPU, never have and probably never will. Doesn't matter the sliders or the difficulty level. I rarely see a single, walk, sacrifice, and two groundouts to score a run. The CPU still mostly gets their runs in little spurts or barrages where it feels scripted (all my pitches get caught in the tractor beam) and there's nothing I can do about it. It's usually a 3-spot still, just how I've always complained about this. Once they get their 3 runs, they go down easily after that. If they do score a single run in an inning, it's from a solo homerun, and nothing else, lol.
                        I have now played a ton of games, and I couldn't agree with you more. It is part of what makes me hate the game at times, and part of what I like about the game too, I guess. Hopefully next year, things won't feel so scripted, and they fix the dam& CPU roster control and lineup/rotatons management, etc.

                        I have decided this is a very good game, but not what everyone said it was in the beginning for the reasons you stated. I find myself ready to move on to a new game sometimes and probably will.

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                        • DrUrsus
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2687

                          #207
                          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                          Originally posted by Gagnon39
                          I have been playing around with these sliders a bit and have noticed that he solid hits slider makes a HUGE difference in gameplay. With the CPU's solid hits set to 3 I can throw the ball where ever I want and not worry about it. I consistently pitch 7-8 innings giving up very few runs. However with solid hits at 4 the CPU smokes everything. Home runs, doubles, you name it. I don't know what to do because I have been using these sliders and other than the issue with solid hits everything is good. Any suggestions?
                          That's a tough one. I also tried CPU solid hits at 4 as well, and they do smoke the ball. I wish there was a 3.5, lol. I have games on 3 where I see what you are saying. But, just when I think I need to tweak something else, they pummel me anyway, lol, so I have left it alone. My stats are pretty good overall, so I am done tweaking.
                          Maybe if you raised solid hits to 4 but lowered power by 1 or contact by 1, that may work. I am not sure since I haven't tried that. Give that a try and let us know how it works out for you.

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                          • DrUrsus
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2687

                            #208
                            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                            Originally posted by whitesox
                            How many games did you test that? Did you consistently use aces?

                            In my season, I am using these and I am having a hard time pitching. I need to take my time and think about the consiquences for each pitch.
                            Whitesox, I am curious, are you using meter or classic pitching. I am using meter, and I am inconsistent enough to still mess up with it and not pitch well. Maybe Gagnon needs to tweak his user pitching instead based on whether he uses classic or meter. If he uses meter, maybe he is too good and never misses his spot.

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                            • Whitesox
                              Closet pyromaniac
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5287

                              #209
                              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                              Meter.

                              I started a season using knights classic set (I am determined to finally play 162 games...) as the '62 Giants. The hitting is great. Every time I hit a home run I feel I earned it. It is the best feeling in the game. Every time I pitch well I also feel I earned it. Once again the best feeling.
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                              • DrUrsus
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 2687

                                #210
                                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                                Originally posted by whitesox
                                Meter.

                                I started a season using knights classic set (I am determined to finally play 162 games...) as the '62 Giants. The hitting is great. Every time I hit a home run I feel I earned it. It is the best feeling in the game. Every time I pitch well I also feel I earned it. Once again the best feeling.
                                I hear you. I too want to finally play a full 162 games. I usually lose interest in most baseball games before I can finish it. I really liked MLB 07 and would have finished that (as well as High Heat years ago on the xbox 1), but I started a new job and got too busy that summer .
                                Gonna get another game in tonight!

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