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  • DrUrsus
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2687

    #136
    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

    Originally posted by Dirkules
    hey Dr. Ursus. first, i liked your sliders !
    i play yesterday 10 Games in my royals Franchise..... but here is my problem : am I tooo bad or are the Royals tooo bad ? my record is 2-8 after 10 games.. my biggest problem with the sliders are , that my Relievers are giving up too many long Balls and hits! my Starting Pitching is bad, too. with these sliders i suck at pitching, and i am good at batting.
    the Batting Stats are very realistic, i think. i hit one Homerun per game... sometimes 2. sometimes 0. and i have 7-8 hits per game. i like those Sliders! but, my question :
    Must i use the Classic pitching ???? ( is it easier then?)
    now i use the new meter..... and i suck a striking out the CPU batters. i give up way to much hits and homeruns....

    But that is the omly thing, i dont like with these kewl slider set. in batting, the sliders are perfect for me. many variations, like triples, doubles, homeruns , stolen bases etc .

    and sometimes the CPU pitcher going out tooo soon.... the Manager cames soon from the Dugout.... but not often!

    thanks for the sliders, Dr Ursus !

    p.s. : what i like too, with these sliders, i can draw some walks. when i got patience, i can draw 4-5 walks per game. with most other sliders that is not possible. and, my Stole Bases Stats are 100 %. ( 8 trys , 8 stolen bases) hehe

    and, SORRY for my english, i am from Germany. i hope u can read, what i write.
    Glad you are having fun with the sliders. These are definitely the best for drawing walks and working the count. I think you're doing good with the SB, since I get thrown out a lot, lol.
    I use meter pitching only, so I haven't tweaked them for classic pitching.
    If you dowloaded my sliders from Sports Connect (Sony's site on the PS3), make sure the CPU power is set at 6 and not 7 like I have it on there. Try to pitch low in the zone mostly to avoid too many homers, but keep them honest now and then by pitching up and in. On two strikes, try a high out of the zone fastball for the strikeout or a slider low and away out of the strike zone. Splitters and changeups low and outside or inside out of the zone are good strikeout pitches as well.
    Here's my approach to pitching in this game and to pitching when I was in college which may help you.
    Try to get ahead in the count by pitching low and outside with your pitches. Keep them honest now and then by busting them up and in to "back them off the plate". This is also good for setting them up for a slider low and away slightly out of the zone if you are ahead and actually in the zone if you are running a full count. Be careful though and don't hang it, lol or it will be a HR!
    I never give in to good HR hitters when I get behind. They will crush your pitch for a HR if you just throw them a "cookie". If it is a weak hitter, you can get away with giving in and throwing one closer to the middle of the plate.
    Don't get predictable. Make sure you mix up what you throw on different strike counts.
    Try to "change their eye level" and change speeds. For instance a fastball coming in high out of the strike zone can look like a curve down in the strike zone, so that can be used to set them up.
    A high fastball followed by a low change up or a splitter low can change their eye level. Think of what is hard for you to deal with and do the same to the CPU. The game is programmed pretty good in that way.
    Also try to throw some offspeed stuff on 2-0 instead of just throwing fastballs. Make sure your pitcher has control of that pitch however. I like to use 2-0 changeups even if it catches too much of the plate, the difference in speed sometimes is enough for them to foul it off or miss it. Be careful with good hitters (hitters with good plate discipline and vision) though like Todd Helton, Lance Berkman, A-rod, Morneau, Mauer, etc.
    Lastly, I have personally found you are better off missing early on the accuracy than missing late if you use pitching meter (but, that also depends on your location and pitch), so try to stop early. The pitch seems to get more movement too. Sometimes being right on the accuracy line isn't so good.
    Hope this helps you with the pitching. You could try increasing user control by 1 if that doesn't help, but it already is high, so I would work on my approach to pitching first.
    Always throw out of the strike zone on 1-2 (make sure its outside of the zone a fair amount on this one (a fastball high and out of the zone with a power pitcher works great, a changeup low or a slider low and outside out of the strike zone with other pitchers works good) and 2-2 (get closer to the zone on this one though)
    Getting ahead in the pitch count is key.
    Let us know how it goes

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    • DrUrsus
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 2687

      #137
      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

      Originally posted by pbz06
      I have some stats (25 games in)....I just need to take the time and post them up

      Most of it is looking pretty good, except my team batting averages are a bit high. Almost everybody is in the .285+ range, and my team average is a hair under .300. I might have to lower my Contact a notch or two, we'll see.

      My homeruns have taken a big dip. I've hit like 1 over the last 10 games or so, don't know what happened to me there. I was on pace for 1 per game until that point.


      We'll see after more games, everythign feels great overall. I'm having issues/frustrations right now with the CPU Pitching Confidence though. Right now it seems like I'm facing Greg Maddux every game.
      Yea, I need to get some up soon too. My averages may be a little high, I will have to check on that. I have been seeing the ball better lately (and facing lesser pitchers too).
      It's funny how things can change drastically with these sliders. I have been raking the ball last 2-3 games, but I'll have games where I get 4 hits, lol.
      One of the things about this game is that if you start out bad, the CPU pitcher seems to get too much confidence and is unstoppable. That is maybe a flaw of the game. It seems like confidence is a little overdone on both sides. What do you guys think about that?

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      • DrUrsus
        MVP
        • Apr 2006
        • 2687

        #138
        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

        http://www.sendspace.com/file/5lbkpg

        Here is a Chicago Cubs Franchise with CPU roster control ON and stock SCEA ratings and players added up to 6-8-09. It is based on Ridin's Rosters, but SCEA players have been set back to all stock and all players added up to 6-8-09. His minor leaguers are in there of course. There is no career stat glitch. The Cubs players called up this year had their faces done by me (Fox, Scales, Blanco, Waddell, etc.) I didn't do any other faces, but I did put in the SCEA ratings up to 6-8-09, and fixed some apparel. The Cubs players have mostly their correct stances and clothing.

        The MLB lineups and rotations have been set (no ratings changes, they just "stick" after Spring Training) after spring training and set for opening day (good for sim games, use a 2nd controller for teams you play against). My sliders are in there as well, but you have to make sure it is set for All-star, since I didn't set that already.

        Here is the link:

        http://www.sendspace.com/file/5lbkpg

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        • pbz06
          Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 1504

          #139
          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

          Originally posted by DrUrsus
          Yea, I need to get some up soon too. My averages may be a little high, I will have to check on that. I have been seeing the ball better lately (and facing lesser pitchers too).
          It's funny how things can change drastically with these sliders. I have been raking the ball last 2-3 games, but I'll have games where I get 4 hits, lol.
          One of the things about this game is that if you start out bad, the CPU pitcher seems to get too much confidence and is unstoppable. That is maybe a flaw of the game. It seems like confidence is a little overdone on both sides. What do you guys think about that?
          Yea, that's exactly the problem. It's not a slider issue at all, but the outcome of the game (or the effectiveness of the starter) is pretty much determined in the first 2 innings. It's kind of annoying. If I don't pressure them and score a run or two withn the first 2 innings, it's basically game over for my offense. It doesn't matter if I'm facing Joe Schmoe a AA pitcher from the Pirates. Once their confidence maxes out (which happens way too quick, IMO) it's going to be a loong day.

          I can see the logic behind that, but it's just way too volatile (if that's even the word I'm looking for) and it completely overwrites any attribute for the pitcher.

          It also seems to benefit the CPU a lot more, while it punishes the User. I'm Toronto, and I'm sorry but if I'm using Roy Halladay and he gives up back to back hits (or god forbid a run), his confidence shouldn't start collapsing like Ervin Santana during his rookie year. If anything, he buckles down and focuses more. Know what I'm saying? I, as the User, have to work so hard to keep my Confidence up, while the littlest hit or two can unravel it so quickly.

          While the CPU on the other hand, he can breeze through the 1st inning with a nobody pitcher, and all of a sudden his confidence maxes out and he becomes greg maddux. Even if I'm able to score a run or two, his confidence barely gets affected. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

          I wish the Confidence was more of a static attribute built in the pitcher depending on who he is. I wish it wasn't such a dynamic meter/bar that greatly affects each outing based on one mistake or one easy inning.
          Last edited by pbz06; 06-11-2009, 05:19 PM.

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          • DrUrsus
            MVP
            • Apr 2006
            • 2687

            #140
            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

            Originally posted by pbz06
            Yea, that's exactly the problem. It's not a slider issue at all, but the outcome of the game (or the effectiveness of the starter) is pretty much determined in the first 2 innings. It's kind of annoying. If I don't pressure them and score a run or two withn the first 2 innings, it's basically game over for my offense. It doesn't matter if I'm facing Joe Schmoe a AA pitcher from the Pirates. Once their confidence maxes out (which happens way too quick, IMO) it's going to be a loong day.

            I can see the logic behind that, but it's just way too volatile (if that's even the word I'm looking for) and it completely overwrites any attribute for the pitcher.

            It also seems to benefit the CPU a lot more, while it punishes the User. I'm Toronto, and I'm sorry but if I'm using Roy Halladay and he gives up back to back hits (or god forbid a run), his confidence shouldn't start collapsing like Ervin Santana during his rookie year. If anything, he buckles down and focuses more. Know what I'm saying? I, as the User, have to work so hard to keep my Confidence up, while the littlest hit or two can unravel it so quickly.

            While the CPU on the other hand, he can breeze through the 1st inning with a nobody pitcher, and all of a sudden his confidence maxes out and he becomes greg maddux. Even if I'm able to score a run or two, his confidence barely gets affected. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

            I wish the Confidence was more of a static attribute built in the pitcher depending on who he is. I wish it wasn't such a dynamic meter/bar that greatly affects each outing based on one mistake or one easy inning.
            I know exactly what you're saying and totally agree with you.

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            • Whitesox
              Closet pyromaniac
              • Mar 2009
              • 5287

              #141
              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

              Originally posted by DrUrsus
              Still having good games with these. I hope to post some stats after a few more games since I restarted.
              Anyone got any stats after several games?
              I am about to play the World Series with these . I will post my stats after it is all said and done.
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              • bailey4mvp
                MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 1593

                #142
                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                I Just rocked the Cubbies and Big Z 12-5 thanks to 4 home runs in the game and 7 extra base hits, there where 23 hits in total in the game and i lead 8-0 after 2.2innings. Big Z got pulled at 2.2 innings.

                Has any one else had that problem?

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                • ChiCubs
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 541

                  #143
                  Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                  so does anyone think the pitcher confidence meter should be turned off to balance things out??
                  GO CUBS
                  GO WILDCATS
                  GO 'HAWKS
                  GO BEARS

                  Cardinals suck

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                  • Whitesox
                    Closet pyromaniac
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 5287

                    #144
                    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                    Originally posted by ChiCubs
                    so does anyone think the pitcher confidence meter should be turned off to balance things out??
                    I don't. I like it, and it feels realistic.

                    To all of those who a hard time hittin a pitcher when he gets locked in, you have to pick your spots. NEVER swing at the first pitch. As a rule of thumb, I only swing when I have a strike. Also, if you can draw a lead off walk, it will kill the confidence meter. Then add on a hit and the meter is baisicaly worthless. Then if you get some more hits, his meter will be gone, and it will be much easier to hit him.
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                    • ChiCubs
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 541

                      #145
                      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                      Originally posted by whitesox
                      I don't. I like it, and it feels realistic.

                      To all of those who a hard time hittin a pitcher when he gets locked in, you have to pick your spots. NEVER swing at the first pitch. As a rule of thumb, I only swing when I have a strike. Also, if you can draw a lead off walk, it will kill the confidence meter. Then add on a hit and the meter is baisicaly worthless. Then if you get some more hits, his meter will be gone, and it will be much easier to hit him.

                      thanks brah....i will keep the conf meter on.
                      GO CUBS
                      GO WILDCATS
                      GO 'HAWKS
                      GO BEARS

                      Cardinals suck

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                      • pbz06
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1504

                        #146
                        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                        Originally posted by ChiCubs
                        so does anyone think the pitcher confidence meter should be turned off to balance things out??
                        You can't turn it off. The option in the gameplay settings is ONLY for the individual confidence of the pitches. I'm talking about the overall confidence meter that the pitcher has (and you can see by pushing "select"). That is always there and can't be turned off.

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                        • pbz06
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1504

                          #147
                          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                          Originally posted by whitesox
                          I don't. I like it, and it feels realistic.

                          To all of those who a hard time hittin a pitcher when he gets locked in, you have to pick your spots. NEVER swing at the first pitch. As a rule of thumb, I only swing when I have a strike. Also, if you can draw a lead off walk, it will kill the confidence meter. Then add on a hit and the meter is baisicaly worthless. Then if you get some more hits, his meter will be gone, and it will be much easier to hit him.
                          It doesn't feel realistic to me at all (as explained in my first post about it).

                          And I don't swing at the first pitch. The problem is, once their meter gets maxed out, it's strike 1 strike 2 so often. They start painting corners like they're throwing darts.

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                          • Whitesox
                            Closet pyromaniac
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5287

                            #148
                            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                            Well I said I was doing the world series, so here it is. I am the Dodgers:

                            Game 1


                            Game 2


                            Game 3


                            Game 4


                            Game 5


                            I lose the series 4-1 . The only games I did not enjoy playing were the last ones, and I had a great time overall. Good work Dr. Urses.

                            Sorry about the inconsistentsy of the box scores, I am very tired right now.
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                            • JaFFiTh
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1684

                              #149
                              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                              I just tried out your sliders after using veteran for a while. Haven't played my game in like a month or so. I knew I had a hard time hitting with Veteran but heard from some people that all star seemed to be slightly easier for some reason.

                              I tried it out, and I actually had my patience which was not normal. I ended up drew 4 walks (normally 1 or none) And that pretty much led me into my highest scoring game ever for the show (my first year with the series), I won the game 7-6 as the Jays, despite lack of hits for me, only 7. But 2 homeruns to bring the walks home (never had 2 homeruns in a game except for against friends)

                              So far overall, I'll say i'm enjoying this slider so far.. and now i know patience is key! Lost my patience in the last few innings though 'cause the computer was catching up so I was trying to hit everything to somehow stay away from them but I somehow kept the lead and won. I was up 7-3 at a point.

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                              • Dirkules
                                Rookie
                                • May 2004
                                • 29

                                #150
                                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                                This week i played 10 Games with this sliders in my NYY chise.

                                i am 4-6 ... but, the Sliders are very good. i like them!
                                for some reason, first, every game is other..
                                i have variety hits , some doubles, 3 triples, and some Homers. my homerun " king" for now is TEX , i hit 6 with him in 10 games.

                                but, i have trouble to get many RBI s. especially when i have the bases loaded.... last time, i had a great match in Tropicana Field. i was behind 5-9, in the 9. inning..... then the Closer Wheeler came up, and i had no outs !!!
                                i have the REAL chance to tie this game.... but what i am doing ?! i strook out 3 times...
                                ( Damon, Tex and A Rod) i crashed my pad into the wall....

                                and another thing, URSUS :
                                - Do u get some Injured Players with your sliders ??
                                cause i have no injury in 10 games i ve played.... dont know, if that is real or normal..

                                - and another question, Do u have any Ejections with your slider set ? i have none after 10 games...
                                and, i have some tough decisions from the refs....

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