JoeRyan33 HOF Sliders

[BlingBling19]

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Ok so for a couple recent series I moved CPU power back down to 4 left solid hits at 2 and got waxed by the Yankees 3 out of 4 games. I won the first game of the series 7-3 and thought uh oh maybe going down to 4 was a bad idea. I was way wrong. Next game I lose 8-7 and give up 19 hits in 12 Innings. Then I get just hammered 12-1 and lose the last game 4-3. Next series so far I have beaten Tampa Bay 3-1 and then I lost 1-0. Couldn't get any offense going but since moving the power slider down there have been scores all over the place.

I am starting to wonder if it's the pitching view I am using. During the Yankees series I was pitching mainly from a catcher view and during the Rays series I have been using broadcast.

Another thing I am noticing is fast players obviously get down the line fast with base running speed at 6 but it seems almost every player is only out by a step or 2. It seems like all players are quite fast now even ones who are super super slow. Just something I have noticed.

[JoeRyan33]

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Ok so for a couple recent series I moved CPU power back down to 4 left solid hits at 2 and got waxed by the Yankees 3 out of 4 games. I won the first game of the series 7-3 and thought uh oh maybe going down to 4 was a bad idea. I was way wrong. Next game I lose 8-7 and give up 19 hits in 12 Innings. Then I get just hammered 12-1 and lose the last game 4-3. Next series so far I have beaten Tampa Bay 3-1 and then I lost 1-0. Couldn't get any offense going but since moving the power slider down there have been scores all over the place.

I am starting to wonder if it's the pitching view I am using. During the Yankees series I was pitching mainly from a catcher view and during the Rays series I have been using broadcast.

Another thing I am noticing is fast players obviously get down the line fast with base running speed at 6 but it seems almost every player is only out by a step or 2. It seems like all players are quite fast now even ones who are super super slow. Just something I have noticed.

The thing is, running speeds in baseball don't vary by that much for most players. The gap between a fast runner, an average runner and a below average runner is tenths of a second. See the scouting guide I'd put up earlier.

I am now testing the throwing arms at 3. I think that may alleviate any issues as far as them making too many plays close. Like the other things, I'm going to run times on them and compare with real life times.

Seems you're getting some varied scores there. Did you keep your own solid hits at 3 and power at default in those games?

[JoeRyan33]

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For those who use full analog batting (no zone) have you made any adjustments to the HUM batting sliders? I'm just past the all star break in my franchise and I had to increase contact to 6 and solid hits to 3. I was getting way to many swings and misses even with perfect timing, stride and swings to the correct location. My power numbers are down also but I think that's due to me using the Mets and my team is in quite the hitting slump right now. D Wright is batting .221 ugh.

It's definitely not easy hitting on these sliders. Are you using contact swings with 2 strikes? These sliders will definitely force you to use a 2 strike approach when you're in the hole.

I've considered moving the contact to 6 as well, but every time I test it, I end up dropping it back to default. If you find it's right for you by moving the contact and solid hits up, then run with it. Sliders are best when used as a good guide to get the game running at a solid point, and from there you should be thinking about tweaking the set up to your own liking or skill level.

My main aim is to have the game looking like baseball, in the types of plays that occur, the speeds at which they occur, the proper success rates based on plays happening at proper speeds (the base runner speed, the fielder speed, the arm speed, the distance and speed of the ball).
The other main goal is to take a lot of the tedium out of trying to find the starting point for slider set up for others, so that they have a base to work from that takes care of the fundamentals and creates room for them to tweak to their own personal tastes/skill, etc.

[BlingBling19]

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These sliders were working so well until the last 8 games when I have just annihilated the CPU in every game. The CPU now just can't hit. I have kept everything the same since the last time.

8 game winning streak I'm scoring an average of 7 runs a game the CPU 2.

It can't be the team since I am using the Twins. So it's not like they are an offensive juggernaut. The pitching I am getting also is just absurd.

[JoeRyan33]

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These sliders were working so well until the last 8 games when I have just annihilated the CPU in every game. The CPU now just can't hit. I have kept everything the same since the last time.

8 game winning streak I'm scoring an average of 7 runs a game the CPU 2.

It can't be the team since I am using the Twins. So it's not like they are an offensive juggernaut. The pitching I am getting also is just absurd.

If they were working well before, you've probably just run into a hot streak. Not uncommon.

If you continue to dominate, you could lower your own pitching control. Raising their contact makes them refuse to chase anything and makes strike outs too difficult.

[eF 5ive]

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Really enjoy the new new sliders, bro. I got spanked for 11 runs the other day and it was only the 4th inning. Then playing the mets I was up 5-0 in the 2nd inning, and by the 5th inning it was 5-4, only to win 19-5. I've seen awesome streaks for my tm with losses, not being able to hit for contact, pitching woes, to the exact opposite. Anyone having trouble with the difficulty being to easy or hard i'd give it at least a month into a season considering how streaky the game (baseball) can be.

I know this has nothing to do with your sliders but has anyone noticed like a good week or so of bad umpire work? I swear I was getting pinched for like 2 whole series but had a huge strike zone when batting.

[JoeRyan33]

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Haven't been on OS or playing the game much this past couple of weeks (being Irish, the European Championships have taken over my life), but I've thrown the game in and decided to just test the timing at 10.

I did it after a bit of editing to get higher K rates on certain players. When I did it (lowering the plate vision), the ball going through the bat reared its head again. The obvious cheating and bad physics annoys the hell out of me, so I'm seeing how this plays out.

[Aesop5upreme]

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I would like to add these are phenomenal sliders for simulation. I have only made the slight adjustment Pitching Speed at 9.I have found this to be more realistic and true timing between fastball movements and off-speed pitches.Great for limiting or eliminating bad physics altogether.I have played exceptional games with these sliders and once again recommend for Franchise, and Exhibition modes.

[alias2191]

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For those who use full analog batting (no zone) have you made any adjustments to the HUM batting sliders? I'm just past the all star break in my franchise and I had to increase contact to 6 and solid hits to 3. I was getting way to many swings and misses even with perfect timing, stride and swings to the correct location. My power numbers are down also but I think that's due to me using the Mets and my team is in quite the hitting slump right now. D Wright is batting .221 ugh.

I use the mets too and David weight was hitting about .230 til he got hot now he's up to bout .270 but the biggest adjustment I've done is put stride difficulty to 0. It's subtle but it allows your timing to dictate how the ball is hit rather than outside factors from the game

[blackrob43d]

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I use the mets too and David weight was hitting about .230 til he got hot now he's up to bout .270 but the biggest adjustment I've done is put stride difficulty to 0. It's subtle but it allows your timing to dictate how the ball is hit rather than outside factors from the game

About 2-3 weeks ago I put stride diff on 0 and the results are perfect. Great tip for all the anolog users.

[MGOBLUE321]

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About 2-3 weeks ago I put stride diff on 0 and the results are perfect. Great tip for all the anolog users.

Are you just using these sliders with stride difficulty on 0? What does the stride difficulty slider do?

[blackrob43d]

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Yep I use these sliders with stride diff at 0. Stride diff at 0 puts less emphasis o the timing for your stride using anolog batting. It makes it more realistic by making you pull the ball when you swing early and go the other way when your late. So now hitting feels less like a dice roll and puts you in full control.

[pberardi]

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I'm enjoying this thread immensely and I like the fact that folks here are studying the game to create sliders as oppossed to just simply making sliders and having the game adjust to the sliders!

Some observations after playing 20 games:

the adjustment to slower fielder speed and reaction was brilliant. There is no need to raise power as I'm hitting HR's without more power with the "x" button on zone.

The CPU is throwing more strikes this year. I have worked on my plate discipline skills over the past 3 series and usually get about 4-5 walks per game. I have no problem getting walks but when you only chase 8 pitches out of 150 thrown, I now see 60% strikes where as last year and in 2010, the % was more like 54-55%.

The pitcher confidence meter on HOF doesn't need to max out for it to throw strike after strike. I'm seeing far too many relievers with 80% confidence bars throwing 70% strikes on HOF. This is making HOF very challenging this year.

Edge pitches (black) all seem to be called strikes this year compared to last year, when a strike was called if the edge pitch was on the inside black vs. outside. This made working the count a thrill for me lastyear because I would really enjoy 3-2 counts and the risk of taking close pitches. Sometimes you won, sometimes you lost but it was always a "good at bat".

This year is absurd, every edge pitch gets called strike and is racking up my k's well above 10. Sliders are not solving this problem.

I play with umpire calls off, and it appears that the perfect call no longer distinguishes between black and outside the black. I may change umpire calls.

I'm using catcher classic after using my own edited camera and the ball seems slower! It takes on a different dimension. It's almost as if the pitcher is closer and the game slows things down for you to react. Perhaps its placebo but the ball seems different upon release.

Some hints to work the count better:
If you take a pitch in your wheelhouse, chances are the cpu follows up with a perfect edge pitch. Taking pitches out of the wheelhouse, including strikes seems to induce balls and extends the AB.

I'm just not seeing bad pitching yet. Every pitcher seems to have verlander control, even Jamie Moyer was painting the black for 12 strikeouts in my game...

[MGOBLUE321]

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I'm enjoying this thread immensely and I like the fact that folks here are studying the game to create sliders as oppossed to just simply making sliders and having the game adjust to the sliders!

Some observations after playing 20 games:

the adjustment to slower fielder speed and reaction was brilliant. There is no need to raise power as I'm hitting HR's without more power with the "x" button on zone.

The CPU is throwing more strikes this year. I have worked on my plate discipline skills over the past 3 series and usually get about 4-5 walks per game. I have no problem getting walks but when you only chase 8 pitches out of 150 thrown, I now see 60% strikes where as last year and in 2010, the % was more like 54-55%.

The pitcher confidence meter on HOF doesn't need to max out for it to throw strike after strike. I'm seeing far too many relievers with 80% confidence bars throwing 70% strikes on HOF. This is making HOF very challenging this year.

Edge pitches (black) all seem to be called strikes this year compared to last year, when a strike was called if the edge pitch was on the inside black vs. outside. This made working the count a thrill for me lastyear because I would really enjoy 3-2 counts and the risk of taking close pitches. Sometimes you won, sometimes you lost but it was always a "good at bat".

This year is absurd, every edge pitch gets called strike and is racking up my k's well above 10. Sliders are not solving this problem.

I play with umpire calls off, and it appears that the perfect call no longer distinguishes between black and outside the black. I may change umpire calls.

I'm using catcher classic after using my own edited camera and the ball seems slower! It takes on a different dimension. It's almost as if the pitcher is closer and the game slows things down for you to react. Perhaps its placebo but the ball seems different upon release.

Some hints to work the count better:
If you take a pitch in your wheelhouse, chances are the cpu follows up with a perfect edge pitch. Taking pitches out of the wheelhouse, including strikes seems to induce balls and extends the AB.

I'm just not seeing bad pitching yet. Every pitcher seems to have verlander control, even Jamie Moyer was painting the black for 12 strikeouts in my game...

Play with classic pitching .

[anderson1321]

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