Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

[RangersCruz]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Made righty SP went to the Angels 2014 i get called up

First 2 games into the rotation
Vs Blue Jays - 7IP 8H 4R 4ER 3BB 6SO we win 9-6
Vs RedSox 9IP 5H 1R 1ER 1BB 9SO we win 7-1

[Brandwin]

I know the game is supposed to be easier to hit on this year, but I can't using the regular or the hybrid set. Pretty frustrating.

[rspencer86]

What hitting camera do you use, Dook? I use the extra zoomed in one and it really has helped me hit better.

[RangersCruz]

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Does anybody have these games when you can't put anything in the strikezone? playing a game right now everything is out of control so frustrating

[Farmer joe]

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What hitting camera do you use, Dook? I use the extra zoomed in one and it really has helped me hit better.

I have the same problem as Dook. I always suck at hitting in these games, but I do pretty well at pitching. Spencer, do you have a snapshot of what camera you use, or is it just the default zoom one?
I just feel like a better angle would help me, but don't know where to start. I use a custom one made out of catcher offset. Its basically just zoomed out just a little more.

[BrianU]

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I think the best camera i've tried for reading balls/strikes is TNK's camera in his slider thread. Some cameras are better to read pitches and some are better for timing the hit but I think this one gives both.

The thing that improved my ability to read pitches the most was watching the ball. Watching the pitchers glove when the ball is in it, following the glove as it moves about, picking up the ball when it is exposed behind his back, and following it the rest of the arm till it leaves his hand. Once I get in the groove of picking up the pitchers motion I can read things really good and get into longer at bats. I struggle when relievers come into the game.

[kpeercy]

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I had only given up 3 HR's thru 9 games, so I bumped CPU Power to 5. Well, thru 2 innings at the Pirates, I haven't given up any HR's, but I have given up 5 runs on 5 hits.

[Brandwin]

What hitting camera do you use, Dook? I use the extra zoomed in one and it really has helped me hit better.

Been using default. Maybe I'll try a different camera.

[Chetballard]

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I just wanted to say Thanks for the sliders. I have played the show for years and always played with All-Star hitting. No idea why but All-Star i could hit ok, but my stats were not realistic. My 3,4,5 hitters would have decent stats but other then that everyone else could not hit.

I was annoyed with this, and kept adjusting sliders myself making contact etc, higher and that only made me hit lots of Homeruns, not alot of doubles or singles.I tried every camera angle out there, to try to fix my hitting. I finally thought what the heck and tried your sliders with hybrid hitting on veteran. I thought it would lead to me winning by 5 runs almost every game, but instead if made it way more real. Now everyone has what I would call realistic MLB stats

I am using the A's so maybe with a better team I would hit better. I just beat the Angels 7-2 with nothing but doubles, and singles not one single HR. The game before I lost to them 8-1, so the cpu does hit well. I have played about 8 games with your sliders and every game has been great. To sum it up, anyone have issues with hitting, please try the hybrid settings. It took me forever because I thought it would be too easy, but it works well.

I forgot to add only thing I change was Human Pitcher Consistency at 5, instead of 4 every thing else is your settings. I don't think that will make a huge difference

[erod550]

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I forgot to add only thing I change was Human Pitcher Consistency at 5, instead of 4 every thing else is your settings. I don't think that will make a huge difference

You wouldn't think so but my team ERA went up two full runs after the change. My ERA was at 2.06 for the first 9 games I played on these sliders. Then I dropped human pitcher consistency to 4 and my team ERA was 3.98 over the next 7 games. I had also only given up 4 homers over those first 9 games and I gave up 7 in the next 7 after the change, including a 4 homer game by the Angels against me. The first 9 were against the Marlins, Braves, and Brewers, while the next 7 were against the Cardinals and Angels.

I do need to increase my offense though. I'm hitting .232 over the 16 games and .204 over the last 7 against good teams, with only 7.5 hits a game and 2 XBH a game, only slugging .338. Meanwhile the CPU offense has woken up with the drop in human consistency so I'm going to end up losing way more games than I win because the games I was winning were 2-0, 1-0, 3-1, and I think those games are a thing of the past now. I've only scored more than 4 runs 4 times out of 16 games so if I'm giving up 4 runs a game I'm going to be having an Astros-like record with one of the better teams in baseball, heh.

I would really like to move to the Veteran Hybrid set but the unfortunate side effect is that on Veteran the PCI for zone hitting is ginormous, and anything in the PCI is pretty much guaranteed to be hit hard. I know this slider set is built around timing hitting but I'm playing in an online league with guys who hate timing hitting and I can't be sure they're going to stick to using it and you just mash on Veteran with the huge PCI and zone hitting. You can cover 2/3 of the strike zone with it so it's nearly impossible to pitch to them. All-Star shrinks it so it's not so easy to hit.

Anyway, long story short do you have any suggestions for how to get a little more offense while staying on All-Star? Increase human timing to 6? Reduce CPU control/consistency by 1? On the regular settings I have guys like Joe Blanton painting corners like Greg Maddux which is a contributor to the poor hitting. They don't make mistakes hardly ever and when they do it still ends up being weakly hit most of the time. And when they're not making mistakes they're throwing that slider that just barely misses the zone, or the changeup that is in the zone til the last second and drops out that you can't lay off with 2 strikes. It just still feels like they have too much command of their pitches, especially lower end of the rotation guys who mow down my lineup with 8 inning 5 hit performances all the time.

[Chetballard]

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On all-star I tried raising all human hitting sliders to +1 so they were at 6. It did not seem to help much, it did allow for more homeruns. It seemed that balls were hit too hard at times. I don't play online so I wish i could help with that.

Its just I feel Armor & Swords sliders are great and we know what we generally are weaker at, and adjust sliders to that. I don't even know if sliders change the game that much .vs Humans. The show can take a while to finish just one game, and many slider adjustments take several games to see any change. I did find using catcher zoom 2, helped out ALOT with hitting. Thats the thing with this game, you might hate catcher zoom 2 and there are tons of hitting cameras to try.I might adjust some of the sliders later, but right now they are fine. Just stay calm at the plate, and if the cpu throws a fastball right down the middle which you just stare at and miss so what, The chances of them doing it again the very next pitch are slim. I do notice the AI will abuse you if you swing at everything

[fatheifer]

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Anyway, long story short do you have any suggestions for how to get a little more offense while staying on All-Star? Increase human timing to 6? Reduce CPU control/consistency by 1? On the regular settings I have guys like Joe Blanton painting corners like Greg Maddux which is a contributor to the poor hitting. They don't make mistakes hardly ever and when they do it still ends up being weakly hit most of the time. And when they're not making mistakes they're throwing that slider that just barely misses the zone, or the changeup that is in the zone til the last second and drops out that you can't lay off with 2 strikes. It just still feels like they have too much command of their pitches, especially lower end of the rotation guys who mow down my lineup with 8 inning 5 hit performances all the time.

Check out my thread in his forum.

[erod550]

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On all-star I tried raising all human hitting sliders to +1 so they were at 6. It did not seem to help much, it did allow for more homeruns. It seemed that balls were hit too hard at times. I don't play online so I wish i could help with that.

Its just I feel Armor & Swords sliders are great and we know what we generally are weaker at, and adjust sliders to that. I don't even know if sliders change the game that much .vs Humans. The show can take a while to finish just one game, and many slider adjustments take several games to see any change. I did find using catcher zoom 2, helped out ALOT with hitting. Thats the thing with this game, you might hate catcher zoom 2 and there are tons of hitting cameras to try.I might adjust some of the sliders later, but right now they are fine. Just stay calm at the plate, and if the cpu throws a fastball right down the middle which you just stare at and miss so what, The chances of them doing it again the very next pitch are slim. I do notice the AI will abuse you if you swing at everything

I'm a pretty patient hitter. I'm averaging about 3.7 walks a game. I do chase occasionally of course, but not many of my weakly hit outs are from chasing pitches. Those usually end up in strikeouts.

Check out my thread in his forum.

Looks like you had the same idea I did with bumping timing by 1 and lowering CPU consistency, and I see you also lowered human consistency. I may give that a shot and see how it goes.

You guys are right it is tough to measure impacts to slider changes because you have to look at a larger sample size than just a handful of games and it's time consuming to measure results of small changes.

[RangersCruz]

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Wow im on the A's and i just had my crappiest game

5.0Ip 5H 2R 2ER 4SO we were up 2-0 and i just could not locate anything in the 4th and 5th innings so i give up 2 runs and get taken out i like classic but at times its so annoying

[erod550]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Check out my thread in his forum.

Well I'm not sure increasing timing to 6 and solid hits to 5 is going to be the answer. I only played 2 games so far doing that but it actually got much worse, hitting .149 in the two games, losing 1-0 in 13 innings in the first and winning 3-1 in the 2nd. The 3 runs I scored were not strong either. 1 was a solo homer. 1 was total garbage as I struck out on a pitch in the dirt with a runner on 3rd and accidentally sent him home. The catcher sat there waiting for the guy (facing away) and then missed the tag and dove at the runner and injured himself and the run scored. And the 3rd run was on a wild pitch with a runner at 3rd, so I didn't have a single hit with a runner in scoring position in either game.

Small sample size I know, but these were two of my worst offensive games since moving away from default Veteran, including my first time being shut out and shut out for 13 innings no less.