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  • erod550
    Rookie
    • Jul 2007
    • 153

    #361
    Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

    Originally posted by cardinals57
    Had a huge offense explosion in my first game of my orioles franchise using these. I ended up winning 19-2 and I had 23 hits. I ended up hitting three home runs and seven doubles. I have honestly no clue what happened in this game as the most I've ever scored in a game using these sliders before was 8. Guess this was just a huge fluke... I am using the hybrid sliders
    I want to face the pitchers you were facing. I haven't scored 19 total runs in my last 8 games put together on the hybrid sliders. I haven't scored more than 4 runs in a game in the last 16 games, and even then only scored 4 runs 4 times over those last 16.

    The pitching is good over that span, with a 3.19 team ERA, giving up about 8 hits and 2 walks a game.

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    • erod550
      Rookie
      • Jul 2007
      • 153

      #362
      Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

      Originally posted by Armor & Sword
      CPU Strike Frequency has been raised to 3. I am still drawing walks....the cpu still does not pound the zone all game (of course stud pitchers are far more consistent though) but less hit batsman and wild pitches which were too frequent.
      Wouldn't those be because of the consistency slider more than the strike frequency slider? Also I haven't seen too many hit batsmen or wild pitches. I haven't been tracking but I don't think I even see 1 HBP or WP a game, more like one every other game or even every 3rd game. Or maybe it's because I don't have people on base that often so the ones that do get thrown wild have no effect.

      What strike percentages are you seeing with strike frequency at 3? Are first pitch strikes more common? Are they more likely to throw a strike on 3-2 counts?

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      • bravesfan1984
        MVP
        • Mar 2008
        • 2808

        #363
        Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

        armour, have you seen many comebackers to the pitcher? i played two games last night and hit about 10-15 comebackers right to the pitcher. these weren't little soft grounders back to him, but more like liners or hard hit grounders that the pitcher was able to field.
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        • BleacherCreature
          MVP
          • Apr 2007
          • 3160

          #364
          Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

          Originally posted by erod550
          Wouldn't those be because of the consistency slider more than the strike frequency slider? Also I haven't seen too many hit batsmen or wild pitches. I haven't been tracking but I don't think I even see 1 HBP or WP a game, more like one every other game or even every 3rd game. Or maybe it's because I don't have people on base that often so the ones that do get thrown wild have no effect.

          What strike percentages are you seeing with strike frequency at 3? Are first pitch strikes more common? Are they more likely to throw a strike on 3-2 counts?
          After switching back to the original allstar hitting sliders and moving strike freq to 2 I am seeing the CPU pitchers throwing anywhere from 60%-70% strikes. Don't think I have seen any game over 70% yet in the 3 games since this change. Clay Buttholes was actually at 57% strikes in my game against him earlier and I was able to draw 4 walks against him, 2 on 4 pitches.
          I'm seeing about 2 wild pitches a game from the CPU which seems fine to me and I think I've had 2 hit batters in my first 4 games.

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          • tree3five
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 4006

            #365
            Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

            Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
            With 1.5 HR's a game, I couldn't justify telling you to drop the hitting either.

            Dropping the Pitch Speed a click will help with your strikeouts. What's your team BA?

            On the pitching side, it's tough. Man, the Pirates are not good material for nailing down a slider set. Lots of good players on both sides of the ball, but a lot of guys who's strengths are in one area (power guys with low contact, decent H/9 pitchers with low K ratings and vice versa, etc...if I recall correctly).

            Could you just post all of your stats when the 29 game season is done? You're almost there, and then the slider guys can guide you so you can finish up tweaking and start your real Franchise.
            Very good points. I have pitch speed all the way down. It has helped a lot with my walks. Right now I am 4-16 with these sliders. If I pitch well I hit poor and vice versa. I feel like I just need something to help me be a little better at hitting and a little better at pitching, I'll be fine. I'll post some stats later when I am home from work. Thanks for the help guys.

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            • geisterhome
              MVP
              • Sep 2011
              • 2101

              #366
              Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

              Why do you have CPU Timing on 4?
              To me it seems that on All-Star the timing of the CPU hitters is way off a lot of times.
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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21788

                #367
                Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                Originally posted by geisterhome
                Why do you have CPU Timing on 4?
                To me it seems that on All-Star the timing of the CPU hitters is way off a lot of times.
                Ok listen up everyone . I have settings the way I do because that is how I like the game. For me it plays really tight, gives me the balance I am looking for and fits my skill level perfectly. If your questioning why because your seeing or getting results you don't like, them by all means....change them to your skill level.

                Both sets are purely a base for you to tweak to your desire. Meantime I am just far too busy playing and enjoying the game to be worried about one click up or down anymore. I am quite happy with the slider set as is.

                Again enjoy the game, make your own tweaks and lets play the crap out of this awesome baseball game. Post box scores. Heck you can all discuss your settings that you are personally going with.

                But really I have no more feedback to give as to the "why" as far as the values for the settings. Advice on playing and enjoying the game I am all about it.

                My answer to the setting values is...... Because it is. That is my set and I am getting pure joy out of the game with those values.

                Enjoy the game everyone!
                Last edited by Armor and Sword; 04-16-2013, 03:18 PM.
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                • Brandwin
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 30621

                  #368
                  That's the thing people don't get with sliders. It works for the person who created, doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone. I've been known to ask questions as well, but asking to help get it to work for me. Your sliders are great.

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                  • tree3five
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 4006

                    #369
                    Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                    I am just asking for help because I don't want to change something that will screw another thing up. If I am out of line posting here let me know.

                    I just won big 6-0 against the cubs. I don't know how but I finally hit well and shut the CPU down in the same game, lol. Gives me hope. Here are my stats through 21 games.

                    Record 7-14
                    HUM Hitting:
                    BA - .237
                    H/G - 8
                    R/G - 3.5
                    XBH/G - 1.6
                    HR/G - 1
                    BB/G - 3
                    K/G - 10.5

                    HUM Pitching:
                    ERA - 4.16 (went down after last game )
                    H/G - 10
                    R/G - 4.9
                    HR/G - 1
                    BB/G - 2.5
                    K/G - 7.5

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                    • wisdom less13
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 992

                      #370
                      Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                      Originally posted by Armor & Sword
                      Ok listen up everyone . I have settings the way I do because that is how I like the game. For me it plays really tight, gives me the balance I am looking for and fits my skill level perfectly. If your questioning why because your seeing or getting results you don't like, them by all means....change them to your skill level.

                      Both sets are purely a base for you to tweak to your desire. Meantime I am just far too busy playing and enjoying the game to be worried about one click up or down anymore. I am quote happy with the slider set as is.

                      Again enjoy the game, make your own tweaks and lets play the crap out of this awesome baseball game. Post box scores. Heck you can all discuss your settings that you are personally going with.

                      But really I have no more feedback to give as to the why as far as the values for the settings. Advice on playing and enjoying the game I am all about it.

                      My answer to the setting values is...... Because it is. That is my set and I am getting pure joy out of the game with those values.

                      Enjoy the game everyone!
                      That's what I did with your set last year. I just dropped timing on the CPU to actually get Ks for my lowly rated METS. These are knock out settings, again. I am slowly getting hooked on this game. It's hard with me really getting into my EASHL after finally getting the game a few months ago. But you are right, let's play the ish outta this game. VIVA LA SHOW!!!
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                      • Armor and Sword
                        The Lama
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21788

                        #371
                        Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                        Originally posted by tree3five
                        I am just asking for help because I don't want to change something that will screw another thing up. If I am out of line posting here let me know.

                        I just won big 6-0 against the cubs. I don't know how but I finally hit well and shut the CPU down in the same game, lol. Gives me hope. Here are my stats through 21 games.

                        Record 7-14
                        HUM Hitting:
                        BA - .237
                        H/G - 8
                        R/G - 3.5
                        XBH/G - 1.6
                        HR/G - 1
                        BB/G - 3
                        K/G - 10.5

                        HUM Pitching:
                        ERA - 4.16 (went down after last game )
                        H/G - 10
                        R/G - 4.9
                        HR/G - 1
                        BB/G - 2.5
                        K/G - 7.5


                        A click up or down on contact or power for the CPU actually does have a pretty good effect. If you put the CPU at default 5 on power...you will see more HR's for sure and they will punish mistake pitches more frequently. Solid hits where they are is a perfect setting to get a nice hit variety for both human and CPU players.


                        If your finding the CPU is not scoring enough...keep in mind who is pitching, who you are facing at the plate, are they in a cold spell, are you pitching with a great pitcher...and most importantly how many games have you played?


                        If after weighing all those factors your still not feeling/seeing it from the CPU offense....click up power to 5 first and leave everything else as is. Play another 7-10 games and see how things pan out.


                        What is critical to understand about these sliders is they are designed for the player who will actually play most if not all of the 162 games. I can almost assure you that if you play 100-120 games....you will see amazing results, and have a true blast playing The Show. If your playing 50-60 games a season and simming the rest....well these may not cut it.


                        Baseball is a marathon and the little things as well as the culmative results will play out pretty close to real life with this approach to playing The Show.


                        I personally play most if not all of my games in a season. When I play a classic season replay....I play every inning. In franchise I tend to play at least 120-130 games and play every spring training game starting in year 2.


                        I still saw new things on The Show 12 after well over 300 games. I expect to see even more with The Show 13 as the new ball physics are ground breaking for the genere.
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                        • Heroesandvillains
                          MVP
                          • May 2009
                          • 5974

                          #372
                          Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                          Originally posted by tree3five
                          I am just asking for help because I don't want to change something that will screw another thing up. If I am out of line posting here let me know.

                          I just won big 6-0 against the cubs. I don't know how but I finally hit well and shut the CPU down in the same game, lol. Gives me hope. Here are my stats through 21 games.

                          Record 7-14
                          HUM Hitting:
                          BA - .237
                          H/G - 8
                          R/G - 3.5
                          XBH/G - 1.6
                          HR/G - 1
                          BB/G - 3
                          K/G - 10.5

                          HUM Pitching:
                          ERA - 4.16 (went down after last game )
                          H/G - 10
                          R/G - 4.9
                          HR/G - 1
                          BB/G - 2.5
                          K/G - 7.5
                          The 2012 Pirates hit .243 and had an ERA of 3.86.

                          Your stats look pretty great to me, minus your strikeouts (and hits allowed).

                          Do you use contact swing with two strikes at all? And do you have any house rules for hitting (like always take the first pitch or any other stuff like that?)?
                          Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-16-2013, 03:52 PM.

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                          • Heroesandvillains
                            MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 5974

                            #373
                            Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                            Originally posted by tree3five
                            I am just asking for help because I don't want to change something that will screw another thing up. If I am out of line posting here let me know.

                            I just won big 6-0 against the cubs. I don't know how but I finally hit well and shut the CPU down in the same game, lol. Gives me hope. Here are my stats through 21 games.

                            Record 7-14
                            HUM Hitting:
                            BA - .237
                            H/G - 8
                            R/G - 3.5
                            XBH/G - 1.6
                            HR/G - 1
                            BB/G - 3
                            K/G - 10.5

                            HUM Pitching:
                            ERA - 4.16 (went down after last game )
                            H/G - 10
                            R/G - 4.9
                            HR/G - 1
                            BB/G - 2.5
                            K/G - 7.5
                            Could you post your individual pitching stats?

                            I'm wondering if there's a few culprits on your team, or if your hits allowed (and to a lesser extent, runs allowed) are up across the board.
                            Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-16-2013, 03:54 PM.

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                            • tree3five
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 4006

                              #374
                              Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                              Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                              The 2012 Pirates hit .243 and had an ERA of 3.86.

                              Your stats look pretty great to me, minus your strikeouts (and hits allowed).

                              Do you use contact swing with two strikes at all? And do you have any house rules for hitting (like always take the first pitch or any other stuff like that?)?
                              I do not have any house rules, but more times than not I take the first pitch unless I have a good hitter up and its a meatball. I use only X (normal swing) never anything else. Everything feels good, I just want to be able to win a few more games, lol. thanks for the help

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                              • tree3five
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 4006

                                #375
                                Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

                                Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                                Could you post your individual pitching stats?

                                I'm wondering if there's a few culprits on your team, or if your hits allowed (and to a lesser extent, runs allowed) are up across the board.
                                You make very good points, lol. Looks like Melancon, Snachez, and Grilli may be brining it up.

                                Melancon - ERA 12.71
                                Sanchez - 8.44
                                Grilli - 5.79
                                W. Rodriguez - 5.60
                                Zagurski - 5.40
                                McDonald - 5.38
                                Liriano - 2.70
                                Burnett - 2.49
                                Hughes - 2.45
                                Cole - 2.37
                                Morris - 1.50
                                Leroux - 1.42
                                Watson - 0.00
                                Last edited by tree3five; 04-16-2013, 04:15 PM.

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