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  • Totte
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 2919

    #286
    Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

    Are Eric Chavez and Brian Roberts still in the set as FA's?
    Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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    • ProStylez
      Goon Squad
      • Oct 2006
      • 1988

      #287
      Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

      Originally posted by Willard76
      For the new guys - here is a basic rundown of what this roster includes

      Fully re-rated using ZiPs U and ZiPs preseason stats. Also prospects re-rated when ZIPs was not available using Oliver projections

      All created and I mean ALL faces reviewed and corrected as well as name spellings and audio names corrected. No more Byron Broxton

      Pitch Edits done and updates

      Jersey numbers fixed to 40 man

      All transactions updated even lineups done for minor league teams

      This is just a small list off either updates or add ons as well as original content in the last Hybrid release
      And this is coming out today?

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      • Totte
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 2919

        #288
        Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

        Originally posted by ProStylez
        And this is coming out today?

        Sunday. Read back a few posts for the exact statement
        Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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        • Bunselpower32
          Pro
          • Jul 2012
          • 947

          #289
          Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

          When is the deadline for waiver deals? Like what time during the day? I've looked, but it keeps coming up with the non waiver deadline.
          "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

          - Rick Wise

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          • Motown
            OS Brew Connoisseur
            • Jul 2002
            • 9169

            #290
            Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

            Hey man, here's your prototype of Drew Hutchison w/ my overhaul lol... Let me know if your satisfied, & I'll add him to the vault ASAP. If not, I'll hit it some more.

            In game...
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            Last edited by Motown; 08-29-2014, 07:36 PM.

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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #291
              Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

              Originally posted by ProStylez
              Does anyone have any clue how these rosters will differ from the SBFM rosters? Just wondering....I know the other set has pitch edits, equipment edits and of course faces, ratings etc. I've been following that set and thread and now I see this set. A previous post said these may be the deepest rosters ever, which brought me to the question I asked. If anyone knows fill me in.
              Originally posted by Bunselpower32
              Its about the sources used for making it. These use zips, different than sbfm. And a few posts back had the sim numbers, they were unbelievably close.
              And changing sliders does NOT affect these sim stats, so don't be fooled! Some people swear that they do. Choose sliders based on gameplay. That's it.

              Originally posted by Willard76
              For the new guys - here is a basic rundown of what this roster includes

              Fully re-rated using ZiPs U and ZiPs preseason stats. Also prospects re-rated when ZIPs was not available using Oliver projections

              All created and I mean ALL faces reviewed and corrected as well as name spellings and audio names corrected. No more Byron Broxton

              Pitch Edits done and updates

              Jersey numbers fixed to 40 man

              All transactions updated even lineups done for minor league teams

              This is just a small list off either updates or add ons as well as original content in the last Hybrid release
              To add onto Willard and address some of the above questions...

              What is in the upcoming roster? Well, I'm glad you asked!
              1. Transactions will be up to date. Teeds basically goes through transactions every day as you or I brush our teeth--it's pure reflex at this point. He's also been keeping lineups and rotations as accurate as possible for all playable levels.
              2. New CAPs that you just can't get anywhere else are in. We are talking some prospects and some depth guys who may be important to you if you are a fan of a particular team and/or have a good grasp on such and such MiLB system. And if you only knew how particular Teeds and Willard were about faces for the new CAPs as well as ALL of the existing CAPs in OSFM that have been checked and in many cases tweaked or completely re-done, good grief.
              3. Some 2014 draftees and the major Cuban signings are in. There was a complete list a couple of pages back on which 2014 draftees are in. I believe I counted 16 or 17 of them. It's not a complete round-by-round addition, but we like to see it as a best of and most likely to have impact SOON (within 2-3 years).
              4. Massive amounts of typos that were inherited from prior OSFM and Hybrid rosters have been corrected. Positions. Ages. Misspellings. Heights. Weights. Handedness. Jersey numbers. These errors numbered in the hundreds. You can imagine from a project so large...and checking this stuff wasn't exactly what I'd call "fun" lol.
              5. The ratings have been completely updated for all players who have Update data on FanGraphs using the ZiPS update as the precursor to ratings. We also considered things like BABIP and HR/FB% and how extreme values of those might unfairly knock H/9 and HR/9 ratings down, so we did not blindly follow ZiPS if something was fishy. ZiPS is one of the best systems out there right now and we feel very comfortable in its accuracy, and our ratings, via an updated conversion have yielded sim stats on the absolute cusp of reproducing real life stats.
              6. Potentials have been sorted through for all minor leaguers AND all major league players. So you won't see a guy like Felix Hernandez with a sub-99 POT. On the other hand, we are reserving extremely high POT for guys who transcend the game. Trout. Kershaw. Felix. Guys like that and only guys like that. Not every flavor-of-the-moment prospect is getting that 95 or 98 POT.
              7. A massive round of equipment edits has been input. No, we have not re-done every CAP and minor leaguer from OSFM and don't intend to, but all of the regulars in the majors as well as star prospects have been brought up to date as of within the past few weeks. Right down to shoes, Pro Combats, catching trim, glasses frames etc..
              8. Pitch edits have been entirely re-checked and in some cases, entire new repertoires have been added. Let's face it, the pitch edits and just inputting data (let alone collecting it--Big ups to Sean Jeezy) was a massive and tiring project. So, naturally there were some mistakes and discrepancies where maybe a particular pitcher was missed entirely. It's bound to happen with that many edits in that short of a time. Those errors have been corrected. In some cases Sean Jeezy was still inputting control ratings as the original pitch edits were being applied, and those most recent command values have been input where there had been none.


              And guys this isn't us listing everything we've done this year, but all of these things are new and have been completed since the last version came out.

              Originally posted by Totte
              Are Eric Chavez and Brian Roberts still in the set as FA's?
              Chavez has retired, so he is not. Roberts has yet to retire as far as I know, so he's still a FA.

              Originally posted by Bunselpower32
              When is the deadline for waiver deals? Like what time during the day? I've looked, but it keeps coming up with the non waiver deadline.
              Mid-day, I believe. You have to figure the paperwork would be submitted to the league office while it's open, so we're not talking midnight. But, all the waiver deals should be complete by noon or 3pm EST I think. You also have to figure that the news might not leak out about specific deals until later though.
              Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 08-29-2014, 07:58 PM.
              Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan Wolverines

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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #292
                Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                Originally posted by Motown
                Hey man, here's your prototype of Drew Hutchison w/ my overhaul lol... Let me know if your satisfied, & I'll add him to the vault ASAP. If not, I'll hit it some more.

                In game...
                Looks good to me, but I'll leave it to Willard--one of our 2 resident face scholars who also happens to be a Jays fan--to decide.
                Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan Wolverines

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                • ProStylez
                  Goon Squad
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1988

                  #293
                  Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  And changing sliders does NOT affect these sim stats, so don't be fooled! Some people swear that they do. Choose sliders based on gameplay. That's it.



                  To add onto Willard and address some of the above questions...

                  What is in the upcoming roster? Well, I'm glad you asked!
                  1. Transactions will be up to date. Teeds basically goes through transactions every day as you or I brush our teeth--it's pure reflex at this point. He's also been keeping lineups and rotations as accurate as possible for all playable levels.
                  2. New CAPs that you just can't get anywhere else are in. We are talking some prospects and some depth guys who may be important to you if you are a fan of a particular team and/or have a good grasp on such and such MiLB system. And if you only knew how particular Teeds and Willard were about faces for the new CAPs as well as ALL of the existing CAPs in OSFM that have been checked and in many cases tweaked or completely re-done, good grief.
                  3. Some 2014 draftees and the major Cuban signings are in. There was a complete list a couple of pages back on which 2014 draftees are in. I believe I counted 16 or 17 of them. It's not a complete round-by-round addition, but we like to see it as a best of and most likely to have impact SOON (within 2-3 years).
                  4. Massive amounts of typos that were inherited from prior OSFM and Hybrid rosters have been corrected. Positions. Ages. Misspellings. Heights. Weights. Handedness. Jersey numbers. These errors numbered in the hundreds. You can imagine from a project so large...and checking this stuff wasn't exactly what I'd call "fun" lol.
                  5. The ratings have been completely updated for all players who have Update data on FanGraphs using the ZiPS update as the precursor to ratings. We also considered things like BABIP and HR/FB% and how extreme values of those might unfairly knock H/9 and HR/9 ratings down, so we did not blindly follow ZiPS if something was fishy. ZiPS is one of the best systems out there right now and we feel very comfortable in its accuracy, and our ratings, via an updated conversion have yielded sim stats on the absolute cusp of reproducing real life stats.
                  6. Potentials have been sorted through for all minor leaguers AND all major league players. So you won't see a guy like Felix Hernandez with a sub-99 POT. On the other hand, we are reserving extremely high POT for guys who transcend the game. Trout. Kershaw. Felix. Guys like that and only guys like that. Not every flavor-of-the-moment prospect is getting that 95 or 98 POT.
                  7. A massive round of equipment edits has been input. No, we have not re-done every CAP and minor leaguer from OSFM and don't intend to, but all of the regulars in the majors as well as star prospects have been brought up to date as of within the past few weeks. Right down to shoes, Pro Combats, catching trim, glasses frames etc..
                  8. Pitch edits have been entirely re-checked and in some cases, entire new repertoires have been added. Let's face it, the pitch edits and just inputting data (let alone collecting it--Big ups to Sean Jeezy) was a massive and tiring project. So, naturally there were some mistakes and discrepancies where maybe a particular pitcher was missed entirely. It's bound to happen with that many edits in that short of a time. Those errors have been corrected. In some cases Sean Jeezy was still inputting control ratings as the original pitch edits were being applied, and those most recent command values have been input where there had been none.


                  And guys this isn't us listing everything we've done this year, but all of these things are new and have been completed since the last version came out.



                  Chavez has retired, so he is not. Roberts has yet to retire as far as I know, so he's still a FA.



                  Mid-day, I believe. You have to figure the paperwork would be submitted to the league office while it's open, so we're not talking midnight. But, all the waiver deals should be complete by noon or 3pm EST I think. You also have to figure that the news might not leak out about specific deals until later though.
                  Well, Damn.........
                  That's quite the list!

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                  • WaitTilNextYear
                    Go Cubs Go
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16830

                    #294
                    Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                    And just as an example of some of the type of errors we fixed...these are actually funny...check out the audio names for Matt Szczur (Cubs) and Colin Bates (Nats) in the Hybrid v2a set. I lol'ed when fixing those.
                    Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan Wolverines

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                    • Cliffking
                      Pro
                      • May 2013
                      • 533

                      #295
                      Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                      Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                      And just as an example of some of the type of errors we fixed...these are actually funny...check out the audio names for Matt Szczur (Cubs) and Colin Bates (Nats) in the Hybrid v2a set. I lol'ed when fixing those.
                      LMBO....counting down!!!

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                      • trickydick
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 26

                        #296
                        Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                        Can anyone working on these say in a word or two, how the Cubs young talent turned out as far as adjustments?

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                        • WaitTilNextYear
                          Go Cubs Go
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 16830

                          #297
                          Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                          Originally posted by trickydick
                          Can anyone working on these say in a word or two, how the Cubs young talent turned out as far as adjustments?
                          Properly rated.
                          Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan Wolverines

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                          • Bunselpower32
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 947

                            #298
                            Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear

                            Mid-day, I believe. You have to figure the paperwork would be submitted to the league office while it's open, so we're not talking midnight. But, all the waiver deals should be complete by noon or 3pm EST I think. You also have to figure that the news might not leak out about specific deals until later though.
                            Thanks, i was just wondering, not pushing for any kind of time, so don't take it that way, I'm organizing a bunch of friends into a online franchise with these rosters and heard Sunday for a date so I was just trying to get a general idea of whether a draft was feasible Sunday night, as everyone will be free. Sorry if the post sounded a bit pushy, organizing this is like trying to get 100 frogs in a wheelbarrow.
                            "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

                            - Rick Wise

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                            • Totte
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2919

                              #299
                              2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                              Vin Scully just said that all 11 of Grandal's homers has come off lefties. Has 0 HR vs righties. Is that reflected in the rosters? I'm sure it is
                              Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                              • twinsfan34
                                Rookie
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 174

                                #300
                                Re: 2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

                                Originally posted by Willard76
                                For the new guys - here is a basic rundown of what this roster includes

                                Fully re-rated using ZiPs U and ZiPs preseason stats. Also prospects re-rated when ZIPs was not available using Oliver projections

                                All created and I mean ALL faces reviewed and corrected as well as name spellings and audio names corrected. No more Byron Broxton

                                Pitch Edits done and updates

                                Jersey numbers fixed to 40 man

                                All transactions updated even lineups done for minor league teams

                                This is just a small list off either updates or add ons as well as original content in the last Hybrid release
                                Thank God. I always changed that too - 2 years in a row - Twins guy made BUXTON "Broxton"...dude...if there's no Buxton, go with no name.

                                It's like calling a guy named Steve, Sarah or Sam. Because it's close.

                                Looking forward to seeing this set out.
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