2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

[bravesfan1984]

Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

I see that this year's roster includes some of the Legends in free agency. Was there any discussion as to removing them and adding current free agents and prospects that didn't make their team's roster? Have you noticed any difference if you start Franchise without including the Legends free agents as compared to using those slots for current guys? Does it have an affect on retirement or free agent signings if you have more guys available as free agents.

No big deal as some of us can just import over them for Franchise, great roster guys!

We imported as many as we could to get the players we needed, but we didn't want to spend extra efforts on the free agent list. Just wasn't reasonable for our small team. Spending time elsewhere was more important. You can simply start your franchise with legends off and it causes no issues.

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[Cavicchi]

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I agree it is not his #1 pitch (his 2 seam is), but it is a curveball. The announcers even call it a curve or mostly use breaking ball. But it has every characteristic of a curve then it does a slider/slurve.


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Kluber's number 1 pitch is his Sinker/Two seam fastball. The announcers get their info from, I believe, gameday. Here is a link to BrooksBaseball and how they go about the work.

[forme95]

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Kluber's number 1 pitch is his Sinker/Two seam fastball. The announcers get their info from, I believe, gameday. Here is a link to BrooksBaseball and how they go about the work.

Re read the first line of my post. I said his #1 pitch was a 2 seam.

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[Cavicchi]

Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

Re read the first line of my post. I said his #1 pitch was a 2 seam.

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Yes, but you mentioned the announcers calling it a curve and not a slider.

[forme95]

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That was in reference to the slider/slurve not the 2 seam.

It is a 2 seam. Who ever can call it whatever they want. It isn't a sinker. It is a 2 seam. His pitch comes back in, it does not drop imo. Idk why they say it's a sinker with a 2 seam grip. Just my opinion.

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[Cavicchi]

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That was in reference to the slider/slurve not the 2 seam.

It is a 2 seam. Who ever can call it whatever they want. It isn't a sinker. It is a 2 seam. His pitch comes back in, it does not drop imo. Idk why they say it's a sinker with a 2 seam grip. Just my opinion.

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I understand all that, but my post was about you saying the announcers call it a curve, as if that is the absolute truth. I provided a link for you to read how brooksbaseball goes about classifying pitches--please read it.

[forme95]

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I understand all that, but my post was about you saying the announcers call it a curve, as if that is the absolute truth. I provided a link for you to read how brooksbaseball goes about classifying pitches--please read it.

I get what your saying. I have looked at brooks. when I made the announcers comment, it was in reference to to the slurve/curveball comment, not the 2 seam part of the comment. I actually should have split up the two comments in one.

The original quote from Mbunn(To add onto the Kluber thing, I live in Cleveland and watch most games and its basically a slurve more then anything. The TV guys will call it a slider, but then talk about how its more of a slurve then a slider anyways. Not a curveball though)

What I wrote: I agree it is not his #1 pitch (his 2 seam is), but it is a curveball. The announcers even call it a curve or mostly use breaking ball. But it has every characteristic of a curve then it does a slider/slurve.

How I should have wrote it: I agree the curveball is not his #1 pitch. The 2seam is.

It is a curveball though and not a slider/slurve. The announcers even call it a curve or mostly use "breaking ball". But it has every characteristic of a curve then it does a slider/slurve.

I am talking about 2 totally different pitches. One was about the #1 pitch they used. The curveball because he throws it 47% of the time. What I was saying is, that his #1 pitch is/thought was his 2 seam. The next part to that was, that it is a curveball to me and not a slider/slurve.

I hope this clears it up unless we are talking two totally different things and one of us are reading the comment wrong, which I apologize if I am.

I never say anything and refer it as the "absolute truth". I can be as wrong as the next guy. Everything I say, I say as "my opinion of it". Im NOT like most on here who think what they say is 100% right no matter what.

[bravesfan1984]

Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

Whomever came up with the Yoan Moncada stance fir Acuna (with hand, foot and front elbow adjustments)...bravo. Perfect!

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Credit goes to the batting stance thread for that one!

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[WaitTilNextYear]

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The eye test. Im old school and that has worked for hundreds of years. In looking at the stat cast site its clear its not 100% accurate. Its a stone cold fact that Billy Hamilton is the fastest man in the majors and hes not at the top of the list. He is listed at 30 on the list, if that is a 99 speed then 29.1 wouldnt be an 83.

I think most people would prefer an objective, data-driven measure to the "eye test" and that is really the bread and butter of the Hybrid roster. People have been cranking out eye test rosters for hundreds of years. That's not what people come here for.

There's no reason to think that Statcast's sprint speeds are inaccurate. As for Billy Hamilton being the fastest guy, it's basically him and Buxton as 1A and 1B in some order. Statcast has Buxton 1st at 30.5 ft/s, DeShields Jr. 2nd at 30.4 ft/s, and Hamilton tied for 3rd with Trea Turner at 30.0 ft/s. I don't see anything wrong with that whatsoever. Those are 4 really fast hombres.

Maybe at one time it was a "stone cold fact" that Billy Hamilton was the fastest player, but at almost 28 years old and with a lot of mileage on his tiny body, perhaps he's lost just enough juice to make room for some of these other young turks. If he is running as fast as ever, why is Hamilton only on pace for 40% as many stolen bases this year despite having a similar on-base percentage to last year?

As to the 29.1 ft/s not being an 83, well that depends entirely on how these guys equated the speeds to ratings. But, keep in mind that a lot of these speeds are rather close together, with all 424 players measured being in the range from 21.9 ft/s to 30.5 ft/s. That means each tenth of a foot per second is going to be worth 1 or maybe 2 points of speed rating in the game assuming a linear equivalency.

[Cavicchi]

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I get what your saying. I have looked at brooks. when I made the announcers comment, it was in reference to to the slurve/curveball comment, not the 2 seam part of the comment. I actually should have split up the two comments in one.

The original quote from Mbunn(To add onto the Kluber thing, I live in Cleveland and watch most games and its basically a slurve more then anything. The TV guys will call it a slider, but then talk about how its more of a slurve then a slider anyways. Not a curveball though)

What I wrote: I agree it is not his #1 pitch (his 2 seam is), but it is a curveball. The announcers even call it a curve or mostly use breaking ball. But it has every characteristic of a curve then it does a slider/slurve.

How I should have wrote it: I agree the curveball is not his #1 pitch. The 2seam is.

It is a curveball though and not a slider/slurve. The announcers even call it a curve or mostly use "breaking ball". But it has every characteristic of a curve then it does a slider/slurve.

I am talking about 2 totally different pitches. One was about the #1 pitch they used. The curveball because he throws it 47% of the time. What I was saying is, that his #1 pitch is/thought was his 2 seam. The next part to that was, that it is a curveball to me and not a slider/slurve.

I hope this clears it up unless we are talking two totally different things and one of us are reading the comment wrong, which I apologize if I am.

I never say anything and refer it as the "absolute truth". I can be as wrong as the next guy. Everything I say, I say as "my opinion of it". Im NOT like most on here who think what they say is 100% right no matter what.

Well, I asked you to read it and you did? If you did and still call it a curveball. there is nothing left for me to say. I don't think Brooks classifies any pitch as a slurve or sweeping curveball. I did contact them long ago about, I believe, Jose Fernandez, and in the email said his curve could be classified as a sweeping curve.

Brooks does make a distinction between curveball and slider, and they have Kluber with a slider. Now, since they don't appear to use Slurve, it pretty much comes down to curve or slider. Considering their method of pitch classification, I trust them more than any information gained from Gameday alone. Thus, announcers, in my estimation, are not as accurate as what is posted on brooksbaseball.

The link I provided and will again here for those who may be interested, explains how they get information and why it is more accurate than gameday.

The link

[alston4659]

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Was using the different versions of the OSFM rosters for months but came across this thread and decided to try this roster out. I'm very impressed with the variety I've come across when it comes to the players, specifically the pitchers. Fav team is the Phillies but I've run my last few franchises with the Padres and I'm loving the different attributes for certain players now l, both on the upgrade side as far as ratings and the downgrade side. For example...

Hunter Renfore. Had A potential previously but couldn't hit right handed pitching to save his life. Had to platoon him even though I like him alot as a player but with this roster he has B potential but solid hitting across the board and now he's an every day player for me. The pitchers we have I like their pitch variety now compared to what I was used to previously. Plus I have to get used to the opposing pitchers pitches now as well and coming across certain players on other teams that were unknown to me before (due to their ratings being lower which forced the other teams to not play them) is a welcome sight. Well done guys. I see myself sticking with this franchise for the long haul now, no more restarts and I'll finally see if I can make this team a contender soon!

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[IUThor40]

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I think it was stated that these rosters had imported in all added SCEA players - is that accurate?


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[bravesfan1984]

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I think it was stated that these rosters had imported in all added SCEA players - is that accurate?


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Yes sir, you are correct

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[No.27]

Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

Thanks team for all your hard work. Most of my play time in years past has been with the Hybrid roster and this one is a credit to the name. My Red Sox alone now look true to life. I’ve been tempted me to make one final restart for the year.

[bravesfan1984]

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Thanks team for all your hard work. Most of my play time in years past has been with the Hybrid roster and this one is a credit to the name. My Red Sox alone now look true to life. I’ve been tempted me to make one final restart for the year.

I know from editing them myself, they are beastly man. You're going to have fun with that team.

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