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  • Hanoble
    Rookie
    • Oct 2012
    • 57

    #211
    Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

    Originally posted by kpeercy
    That seems to be a reasonable suggestion, but is no one else seeing this issue? I have now played four games and still have not issued a single walk. I play with the APIs suggestions on, which is exactly how I have played that game in the past with no problems.
    Hmm, I do not see this issue myself and I often use the API suggestions. I have been getting more walks than I have been giving, but not to the point to where I have ever went 4 games without giving up a walk. I actually find myself using just how far off a pitcher is with his command as a meter of when I need to warm someone up in the pen. Even if I just tap the button, rarely does it seem that my breaking pitches ever end up exactly where I want them to. I have a 50+ game sample size and really like what I am seeing, so maybe you are in some incredible groove right now, outside of that I am stumped.

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    • GWPump23
      Rookie
      • Dec 2011
      • 361

      #212
      Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by eastcoast49ers
      Go into hitting practice mode and mess around with different cameras or create a custom one until you find one that helps you out.

      Yes, what he said...

      Give "classic catcher 3" a shot...

      -GW-
      "Never go short in the land of plenty..."

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      • Hanoble
        Rookie
        • Oct 2012
        • 57

        #213
        Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

        Originally posted by murganis
        About to give up on this game. Low breaking balls are freaking impossible. Doesn't matter what pitch speed I'm on, there is no way to tell if they're out of the zone.
        Try different views and lower pitch speed way down if you have to get the feeling of it. I went back to classic view and lowered pitch speed to 3 to feel more comfortable this year.

        With that being said, one thing to do is to really pay attention to the ball out of the pitcher's hand. For most pitchers the release point is slightly different and even the arm action can change for certain pitchers/pitches. Once you see a particular pitcher enough, you can use the batter's eye and backdrop of the stadium to notice slight differences in release points/pitch trajectory and decipher what it is based off that alone at times. It is not a major difference, but it is there and the earlier you can pick up a pitch the better off you are.

        The other thing is to really think about the situation, and even use the proper mentality/swing at the plate. If you are down 0-2 you are most likely going to see a breaking pitch or something off the plate. Use a contact swing (O button) and really wait on it. Even if it is that fastball, the contact swing could help you foul it off on a late swing and stay alive until a more favorable count/pitch. If you are up in the count, 2-1, 3-1, 2-0, etc, and really need a big hit focus in on one pitch in one spot and let it rip. Do not be afraid to be at 2-0 and tell yourself "I am swinging at this next pitch if it looks like a fastball". That is part of baseball man, watch a guy like Carlos Gomez swing out of his helmet to hit a 2-0 fastball, only to watch it be a change up that he is a mile ahead of (it is humorous/painful as a Brewers fan to watch sometimes ha). On the contrary, if you are simply trying to wear a guy down don't be afraid to sit on a 3-0 count and literally put the controller down for a strike or 2 and make that guy throw a couple strikes in a row. My experience has been that pitchers will start to lose command of their breaking pitches as they get more tired, more-so than other pitches it seems, and it becomes easier to read the pitch and make them pay for hanging one.

        A lot of what makes this game so good imo is all the small things. If I am up against an ace, I understand it will be more difficult to light him up. Instead of looking at every at bat as "I need a hit", I look at it is getting in a quality at bat. If I hit a piss rod to the shortstop on pitch 1 is that any better than a strikeout off of an 8 pitch at bat? I really do not think so, both build confidence for the pitcher, but one makes him a bit more tired - even if I "technically" had a better result for one at bat. Enough of those long at bats and you can either crack him when he is tired or get to the pen and do your damage there.

        A lot of the success you have is how you approach every at bat. It is easy to strike out a couple of times on big breaking pitches and feel helpless, but the majority of the time a guy is throwing that pitch is because he has already gotten you to a favorable spot in the at bat. Once you understand that and can avoid as many as those spots as possible, you are much better off.

        I try to employ all those tactics and I have always been a pretty good hitter on The Show over the years, but there are games where I can't hit **** and strike out 10 times. Remember, we are playing a sport where succeeding 3/10 times is considered excellent - and these sliders are trying to replicate that. Just stay positive and try to break down what went wrong in your poor at bats and you will notice improvement in no time.

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        • Maxil
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 223

          #214
          Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

          The post above is really good. What has really helped me is learning the pitchers release. I pretty much stare at the point where the ball comes out of the pitchers hand when he throws. Not really at it, but through it. Kinda out of focus.

          After a handful of pitches seeing what he throws at what speeds, I will know from the split second when it leaves his hand if it is off speed or not. Also what direction it goes in, because it will move greatly in that split second. If it floats slightly up, its a curve of some sort or a high usually out of zone fastball. (arm delivery changes this approach, but you see the idea and can adapt)


          Except for the *** **** changeup. I tend to lay off low pitches unless I have to swing, but that freakin low changeup gets me every damn time looking like it's in the zone, and then dropping into the dirt. Most of my franchise players will continiously foul it off on 0-2, 1-2, 2-2 counts where I use contact swing. But 3-2, my god that has probably gotten me out 50 times already
          Last edited by Maxil; 04-14-2015, 10:41 PM.

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          • esham313
            Rookie
            • Aug 2007
            • 306

            #215
            Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

            Originally posted by kpeercy
            That seems to be a reasonable suggestion, but is no one else seeing this issue? I have now played four games and still have not issued a single walk. I play with the APIs suggestions on, which is exactly how I have played that game in the past with no problems.
            Myself, I use pulse pitching and I lowered pitch control and consistency to 2. Works for my game.

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            • Rickyfins75
              Rookie
              • Oct 2014
              • 264

              #216
              Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              Hey Vince! So I have not moved it up as of yet. For all I know I may not. But my tell in when to move it is when I can wreck ace pitchers on every staff more than once. Its a feel thing. And also statistical. If my entire team just keeps pounding the ball....it may be time to up the gas.

              I have never played The Show with a pitch speed higher than 5. And on 12 I had it at zero.

              Glad your enjoying the game as much as I am!
              I can't swear on here but I want to in a good way to express my excitement. I played all day today using your settings and sliders and wow man just wow! I'm sold on classic pitching with broadcast view its just amazing and immersive. I kept API on as i just enjoy getting the suggestions from the catcher and still having the option to wave him off. I see all sorts of variety and challenge there. Also i like auto fielding it took me a minute to let go of assist but the animations on auto are great. The dice roll factor on classic pitching and auto fielding is wonderful! With batting Ive narrowed it between classic catcher 2 and 3. I tried zoom 3 but I had too much trouble being patient. Classic 2 and 3 is giving me the best views to time pitches. One crutch I haven't been able to let go of yet is the strike zone. I've been using it since The Show first came out so I think that's why. I'm just TOO dang used to that one lol.


              One thing I'm really liking is pitch speed at 5 and after seeing a lot of you guys saying 3 I'm going to drop down to that for awhile. I was at freaking 8 LOL!!!

              For the guys having trouble with low pitches YOU ARENT ALONE! I couldn't hit anything low at 8 in the zone or be patient on pitches low out of the zone but things certainly improved for me on 5. I'm actually drawing walks and being much more patient. I don't feel the anxiousness and pressure of trying to hit everything coming into the strike zone I can confidently let bad pitches go when I'm ahead in the count.

              That being said im still having small timing issues at 5 with off speed pitches that are low but I have a good feeling pitch speed at 3 is my remedy. I'm still late on the fast stuff so no worries for me dropping to 3.

              I agree and highly recommend spending time in batting practice(all of them) and even home run derby. I always set my sliders the same in main menu and franchise so that I'm getting the same results in practice that I would in franchise. If I've lost my timing or am trying new settings thats all I need to get my groove back. For anyone frustrated don't give up this game is balls out amazing with Armors sliders and the settings that work for your playstyle. Start pitch speed at 0 and work your way up. Thats the ticket!

              Armor.... amazing just amazing work!!! I'm sold on so many of your settings that i'd never thought of trying. The game feels even more sim than ever.

              By the way I'm pushing 40 myself so I lmao when I read what you said about older eyes. I totally get it and lower pitch speed is so much better for us older fellas lol
              Last edited by Rickyfins75; 04-14-2015, 11:24 PM.
              Fortis et fidus

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              • Rickyfins75
                Rookie
                • Oct 2014
                • 264

                #217
                Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by topside
                Start holding down the pitch button a little more. Not only will you start giving up more walks, you'll also see more swings and misses and strikeouts.

                You're probably like how I would just tap the X button. Would rarely miss my spots, issue walks or get them to swing and miss. Try that and let me know.
                I can concur this works and deserves a harder look. Seems like classic pitching has its own internal meter in a way. I usually tap x but a few times I held it to see if there was a difference and after a second or two holding it you'll feel a rumble. Hmm.
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                • jb12780
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 10665

                  #218
                  Re: Armor & Sword's/Marino MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sli

                  Classic pitching is definitely the way to go and is definitely the most sim way to play.

                  I will admit I don't hide pitch types and I have the classic ball fade on, but as I play more games I will look to get rid of both.

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                  • Murphy7376
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 24

                    #219
                    Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                    Armor I play your sliders in all 3 major sports and am LOVING them but I am getting decimated by injury. I am the Cubs and I have lost Bryant, Castro, Soler & Almora all for 2-3 months each and have a total of 14 players on the DL with 9 for at least 1-2 months. Are you sure 7 is not to high for injury brother?

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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21788

                      #220
                      Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by Murphy7376
                      Armor I play your sliders in all 3 major sports and am LOVING them but I am getting decimated by injury. I am the Cubs and I have lost Bryant, Castro, Soler & Almora all for 2-3 months each and have a total of 14 players on the DL with 9 for at least 1-2 months. Are you sure 7 is not to high for injury brother?
                      It will not be like this every season. Your team has been hit hard. Look around the MLB over the course of a season.

                      It will shock you. But if your not feeling it...drop it to 6. Keep this in mind as well. I play every single game. If your going to sim games your taking a risk as injuries will be a huge dice role with the slider at 7.

                      So here is a suggestion.

                      When you know your going sim a game (as well as games around the league) drop the slider to 6 before you do it. Then when you play a game turn it back up to 7.

                      I have had it at 7 since MLB 12.
                      Last edited by Armor and Sword; 04-15-2015, 07:23 AM.
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                      • Murphy7376
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 24

                        #221
                        Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                        Okay that makes sense if you play every game. I was not taking that into consideration. In order for me to play every game I would need to fantasy draft so I could build my squad the way I like and not lose interest waiting for offseason changes. -Thanks Again

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                        • jb12780
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 10665

                          #222
                          Re: Armor & Sword's/Marino MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sli

                          Using these in RTTS, my team (Rangers AA) is under .500, bit I'm leading in a lot of offensive categories. I wanted to go with a contact hitting speed guy, but I've turned him into Rickey Jr. somehow.

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                          • duc748s
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 225

                            #223
                            Re: Armor & Sword's/Marino MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sli

                            Originally posted by jb12780
                            Using these in RTTS, my team (Rangers AA) is under .500, bit I'm leading in a lot of offensive categories. I wanted to go with a contact hitting speed guy, but I've turned him into Rickey Jr. somehow.

                            Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk
                            Another RttS user using your sliders. Great job!! (as always)

                            FYI - I made the CPU timing window +1 bigger - (AA Ball) as I got shellacked on 2 inside/low/curveballs by their feet that they took golf swings at and hit HRs on. Seemed to have helped....
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                            • KingsDream
                              Rookie
                              • May 2013
                              • 177

                              #224
                              Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                              Hi Armor....thanks again for these sliders !! I don't get to play too often(work,the wifey),but there is always hope. I'm lucky if I play 1 game a week. I read some recent posts that a few of you have Pitch Speed down to 3,and is working well for you. I have it set at 5 now. I'm actually hitting better this year than last year. I'm going to start a 1 yr franchise real soon. Have you tried Pitch Speed at 4 ? If you can,can you quickly tell us some differences with Pitch Speed at 3,4,and 5 ? Also,I normally use Classiic(buttons) for assist baserunning,but in the past has cost me numerous games with my terrible baserunning. I think I'm going to auto - baserunning this year !! . With auto - baserunning,if I have a guy on 2nd...my next batter gets a single but my runner is automatically held at 3rd...would I still have the option to send that runner on 3rd home ? Basically,can we still command runners . I asked this in the Q & A thread but got no response. Thanks in advance !

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                              • RangersCruz
                                MVP
                                • May 2012
                                • 3275

                                #225
                                Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by Rickyfins75
                                I can concur this works and deserves a harder look. Seems like classic pitching has its own internal meter in a way. I usually tap x but a few times I held it to see if there was a difference and after a second or two holding it you'll feel a rumble. Hmm.
                                If you wait for the rumble your pitcher will get tired so quick

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