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  • The Chef
    Moderator
    • Sep 2003
    • 13684

    #1666
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    They have got to fix the wild pitch issue, I can cope with the HR's but wild pitches are starting to ruin games. I went through and looked and I've thrown 83 wild pitches in 61 games (1.36 per) with the MLB average being 0.37 per. I don't see how this continues to get overlooked. I mean that's 3.5x the real life average, I am completely dumbfounded how patches get released and this is never even a foot note let alone addressed. I'm not even trying to bury pitches in the dirt and it continues to happen regardless, sliders outside that somehow end up past the catcher and to the backstop, sinkers down that don't even make it to home plate and skip between the catchers legs to the backstop, hell I've thrown wild pitches on fastballs that I'm throwing middle in and had them bounce in front of the plate, it makes no sense. Throw in the times when it doesn't skip by the catcher yet the catcher has no urgency to throw the advancing runner out anyways and it might as well have skipped to the backstop regardless as the outcome is the same. No team in the league has a pitcher with more then 4 and I've got 8 guys with more then 4, 3 guys with 10+. Has anyone figured out a way to offset this? I'm about to edit my catchers to a 99 block and see if that helps as the CPU is getting far too many cheap runs off of wild pitches.

    Side question for you Armor, would raising control and consistency for the user back to default cause a lot of issues with the CPU offense? I ask because the CPU doesn't have nearly as many issues throwing wild pitches with those settings at default (4 in 7 games = 0.57 per) but as noted above mine are through the roof and 61 games is a pretty large sample size at this point. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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    • JG1986
      Pro
      • Mar 2012
      • 513

      #1667
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      So I got back from being in Vegas all last week Friday night and have been playing ever since. I don't know if it's because i was gone and got rusty or what but holy crap I CANNOT hit anymore. I've played 3 games each of the last four days. I'm officially batting under .200 as a team. Only Jay Bruce (batting .435 somehow) and Curtis Granderson (batting .253) are over .200 on the team. I know there are slumps and what not but I haven't had more than 6 hits in any of the last 12 games and I've been playing the Marlins and Phillies. I don't mind losing in any way but not being able to hit at all has been super frustrating. Guess I'll be upping contact to 6 for a while.

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      • Aviator87AC
        Rookie
        • Oct 2012
        • 389

        #1668
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        Originally posted by dubplate
        I think it's time to call it quits with directional hitting aka high pop-up hitting. Talk about frustrating.
        100% disagree. Directional hitting is the only way to play MLBTS and not smash controllers. It actually rewards you for good timing, whereas PCI/analog input is a complete dumpster fire coin flip.

        Originally posted by jake44np
        Armor,
        What do you think of the new buckshot PCI?
        I personally love it but many people on the forums really hate it.
        After thinking about it, you probably have it turned off don't you??
        Love it. Buckshot PCI display post-pitch/swing is a massive step in the right direction and blows the old "double parenthesis" PCI away.
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        • TimmyShagpile
          Rookie
          • Sep 2015
          • 37

          #1669
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          Are you guys seeing enough errors with these? I've upped all errors to 9 and have only made 2 errors after 15 games in franchise.

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          • VincesVictims
            Pro
            • Aug 2014
            • 773

            #1670
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            Originally posted by JG1986
            So I got back from being in Vegas all last week Friday night and have been playing ever since. I don't know if it's because i was gone and got rusty or what but holy crap I CANNOT hit anymore. I've played 3 games each of the last four days. I'm officially batting under .200 as a team. Only Jay Bruce (batting .435 somehow) and Curtis Granderson (batting .253) are over .200 on the team. I know there are slumps and what not but I haven't had more than 6 hits in any of the last 12 games and I've been playing the Marlins and Phillies. I don't mind losing in any way but not being able to hit at all has been super frustrating. Guess I'll be upping contact to 6 for a while.
            I went through the same thing man. I lost nine straight games and was shut out four times in that period. You will come out of it it's just baseball.

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            • Yankeefan1991
              Rookie
              • May 2017
              • 83

              #1671
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Originally posted by TimmyShagpile
              Are you guys seeing enough errors with these? I've upped all errors to 9 and have only made 2 errors after 15 games in franchise.
              same here !

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              • JG1986
                Pro
                • Mar 2012
                • 513

                #1672
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                Originally posted by Yankeefan1991
                same here !
                Same. I've been playing with them all at 7 for a long while now. I've had a few here and there but the CPU rarely, at least in my franchise, makes any.

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21792

                  #1673
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  I agree. Errors are not exactly where I want them either.

                  Going to continue to work on this....but I am not touching reaction and fielder speed. They are perfect for the hit variety we are getting.

                  It seemed when I went higher than 6 on errors I started seeing some really awful rec league baseball type stuff.

                  But we have had a boatload of patches since the last time I looked into this.

                  So sit tight. I will test it out more this week and see if some tweaking to the error sliders are in order.
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                  • BleacherCreature
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 3160

                    #1674
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    The ups and downs with this game and these sliders is insane. Just had a game where I scored 5 runs, 4 of which were from a sac fly and 3 RBI groundouts, a 47 pitch 8th inning from Betances and a play where Ellsbury misplayed a ball at the wall in centerfield with the bases loaded in the same 8th inning that was ruled an error. But that wasn't all, he then proceeded to kick the ball once it landed and was charged a second error on the play as all 3 runners scored. I put the tying run on 3rd with 2 outs in the 9th but pinch-hitter Judge struck out and I lost 6-5. I love this game!


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                    • Burgess
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 1015

                      #1675
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Armour, I'm curious as to your results trying HOF hitting. Do tell!!
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                      • Armor and Sword
                        The Lama
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21792

                        #1676
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        Originally posted by Burgess
                        Armour, I'm curious as to your results trying HOF hitting. Do tell!!


                        Hated it.

                        Absolutely not for me. Two games and I knew Directional hitting is not meant to be played on higher levels.

                        I did it not because I am raking on All-Star. I did it to see the difference in CPU pitchers and sequence.


                        Almost the same. In fact I could hardly tell a difference. I drew walks just fine and pitch speed is identical.

                        But what is different is solid contact and shrunk down PCI and I don't control the PCI on Directional.

                        So because I can't place the PCI where I want when sitting on pitches like I would with Zone, it made for a very frustrating experience.

                        Hy variety was awful. Contact was neutered tremendously, and I knew right away that ratings based dice roll batting (first and foremost) with user input timing is awesome on All-Star.

                        No reason for a directional hitter to play higher than all star.

                        If you think your hitting too good.....simply turn up pitch speed till you ate more challenged.

                        It is not complicated in that regard.



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                        • pimpinpidgeon8
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 1408

                          #1677
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          They work great with RTTS

                          Only thing is this is tuned for MLB level.

                          So on double A I would. Set the CPU pitching the following way:

                          Control - 5
                          Consostency - 5
                          Strike frequency - 4

                          Once you get to AAA and or MLB

                          Use the OP settings


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                          Are these adjustments from HOF pitching or All-Star?


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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21792

                            #1678
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            Originally posted by pimpinpidgeon8
                            Are these adjustments from HOF pitching or All-Star?


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                            Both levels.


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                            • Yankeefan1991
                              Rookie
                              • May 2017
                              • 83

                              #1679
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                              I agree. Errors are not exactly where I want them either.

                              Going to continue to work on this....but I am not touching reaction and fielder speed. They are perfect for the hit variety we are getting.

                              It seemed when I went higher than 6 on errors I started seeing some really awful rec league baseball type stuff.

                              But we have had a boatload of patches since the last time I looked into this.

                              So sit tight. I will test it out more this week and see if some tweaking to the error sliders are in order.
                              I know what you mean I put Infield Errors to 8 and its works better ! But to many bad throws in the dirt also they will not end up in errors, but i deal with that for my franchise stats.

                              For fielder speed i really recommand 0 with baserunning speed at 5. Thats the only way you will see some 3B base hits without a missed jump in the outfield and more hits in deep center field over the fielder

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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21792

                                #1680
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by Yankeefan1991
                                I know what you mean I put Infield Errors to 8 and its works better ! But to many bad throws in the dirt also they will not end up in errors, but i deal with that for my franchise stats.

                                For fielder speed i really recommand 0 with baserunning speed at 5. Thats the only way you will see some 3B base hits without a missed jump in the outfield and more hits in deep center field over the fielder
                                I will respectfully disagree. I am getting those with the OP settings.
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