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  • The Chef
    Moderator
    • Sep 2003
    • 13684

    #1051
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    Originally posted by Fcshuckers73
    Yes I am referring to control, consistency, strike frequency. The CPU does not pitch as intelligent when the k frequency is below default k frequency. With a 5,3,5 setup u will face a CPU pitcher that will walk u at appropriate times ....lowering wind to 3 will also pair well with the 5,3,5 setting. I am aware the 4,5,3 setting is armors. But I have had better results not neutering the cpu's intelligence by lowering k frequency. Trust me having consistency at 3 and control and k frequency at 5 will not result in enuff hbp to make u lead the league in obp. If it does please take a screenshot and post

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    What's the strike percentage look like for the CPU out of curiosity? I'll probably change the CPU pitching sliders next game just to see how they attack and then if HR's continue to be a problem I'll play with the wind slider after that. I'm not worried in the least about HBP numbers, as far as I'm concerned it offsets the stupid ridiculous amount of wild pitches I throw anyways I just want to continue to draw walks by being patient and not have every CPU SP just destroy the strike zone over and over again regardless of ratings.
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    • Fcshuckers73
      Pro
      • Sep 2011
      • 738

      #1052
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      Originally posted by The Chef
      What's the strike percentage look like for the CPU out of curiosity? I'll probably change the CPU pitching sliders next game just to see how they attack and then if HR's continue to be a problem I'll play with the wind slider after that. I'm not worried in the least about HBP numbers, as far as I'm concerned it offsets the stupid ridiculous amount of wild pitches I throw anyways I just want to continue to draw walks by being patient and not have every CPU SP just destroy the strike zone over and over again regardless of ratings.
      CPU k percentage ranges from mid 50s to high 60s depending on the CPU pitcher attributes...I love the 5,3,5 setting....CPU pitchers r smart

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      • The Chef
        Moderator
        • Sep 2003
        • 13684

        #1053
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        Originally posted by VincesVictims
        Imo consistency is the most important slider for pitching. After armor raised to 5 it became tougher to hit imo. I hit less hr and a lot more k for me. And with it at 5 you have to take balls that are close to the zone in order to walk making hitting make harder. I do a test the other day and put consistency back down to 3 and it made the pitcher much easier to hit and I hit a lot more hr. With it lower than default the pitcher servers up meatballs. Everyone has there own opinion and that is mine. I am set with the sliders as they are opening page and this game has never played better.

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        I thought the same thing would happen, in fact I hoped it would just to make it tougher at the dish but I've yet to have that happen and I'm walking at a rate that far exceeds MLB averages ever since, as odd as that is. Here are my stats for the 5 games since I moved that CPU Consistency to 5...

        Batting Average - 59/185 (0.319)
        Runs - 42
        BB - 29
        K - 37
        2B - 7
        3B - 2
        HR - 11

        As you can see I'm raking the ball, hitting HR's (wind could very well be helping to elevate the HR's obviously) and I'm walking at a rate that is way high. Last game against Detroit they brought in a RP who had thrown more balls then strikes in route to walking 4 guys, next guy they brought in started by throwing 2 of his first 10 pitches for strikes, the CPU just seems gun shy or unwilling to throw pitches over the plate unless they're hanging them at times. Having said all that it could be inflated from facing bottom end SP's, I have no doubt there, but the difference between top end and bottom end would have to be significantly different otherwise I'm merely gonna get average games from the CPU SP's sandwiched by disasterous outings whenever I face a lower end SP.

        Hell I faced Yu Darvish, albeit before the consistency change, and he went 1.1 giving up 9 runs, walking 2, striking out 0 and having pretty much no ability to locate a pitch.

        As a team I'm 4th in batting average (0.272), 1st in runs (116), 3rd in hits (200), 1st in HR's (39) and 4th in walks (83) and am sitting with a 14-7 record with Seattle.

        The thing is I'm torn on wind vs the pitching sliders the other poster mentioned. I feel like the wind will solve it all as whenever I play and there is little to no wind the HR totals are drastically lower having said that I feel like I'm starting to walk at an alarming rate and the pitching sliders could potentially solve that. Sometimes I hate sliders lol.
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        • VincesVictims
          Pro
          • Aug 2014
          • 773

          #1054
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          Originally posted by The Chef
          I thought the same thing would happen, in fact I hoped it would just to make it tougher at the dish but I've yet to have that happen and I'm walking at a rate that far exceeds MLB averages ever since, as odd as that is. Here are my stats for the 5 games since I moved that CPU Consistency to 5...

          Batting Average - 59/185 (0.319)
          Runs - 42
          BB - 29
          K - 37
          2B - 7
          3B - 2
          HR - 11

          As you can see I'm raking the ball, hitting HR's (wind could very well be helping to elevate the HR's obviously) and I'm walking at a rate that is way high. Last game against Detroit they brought in a RP who had thrown more balls then strikes in route to walking 4 guys, next guy they brought in started by throwing 2 of his first 10 pitches for strikes, the CPU just seems gun shy or unwilling to throw pitches over the plate unless they're hanging them at times. Having said all that it could be inflated from facing bottom end SP's, I have no doubt there, but the difference between top end and bottom end would have to be significantly different otherwise I'm merely gonna get average games from the CPU SP's sandwiched by disasterous outings whenever I face a lower end SP.

          Hell I faced Yu Darvish, albeit before the consistency change, and he went 1.1 giving up 9 runs, walking 2, striking out 0 and having pretty much no ability to locate a pitch.

          As a team I'm 4th in batting average (0.272), 1st in runs (116), 3rd in hits (200), 1st in HR's (39) and 4th in walks (83) and am sitting with a 14-7 record with Seattle.

          The thing is I'm torn on wind vs the pitching sliders the other poster mentioned. I feel like the wind will solve it all as whenever I play and there is little to no wind the HR totals are drastically lower having said that I feel like I'm starting to walk at an alarming rate and the pitching sliders could potentially solve that. Sometimes I hate sliders lol.
          You are mashing for sure. Lol. The one thing I will say about this game is no matter what sliders you use or even play on default this game is very streaky. With hitting pitching winning and losing. To me your just on a very hot streak. In my franchise I am in the middle of June. I rank 11th average 12 hr 22 in runs. I have very hot streaks like your on now. I feel like the game is perfect for me with these sliders.

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          • The Chef
            Moderator
            • Sep 2003
            • 13684

            #1055
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            Originally posted by VincesVictims
            You are mashing for sure. Lol. The one thing I will say about this game is no matter what sliders you use or even play on default this game is very streaky. With hitting pitching winning and losing. To me your just on a very hot streak. In my franchise I am in the middle of June. I rank 11th average 12 hr 22 in runs. I have very hot streaks like your on now. I feel like the game is perfect for me with these sliders.

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            Ohh I know baseball is a game of streaks more so then any other sport out there but I'm not basing it purely on just the outcome of a HR or run scored it's how I'm getting there. It seems like the CPU is just hanging far too many pitches and all I have to do is be willing to take some strikeouts looking, lay off the off speed pitches and wait for them to leave a fastball up and mash it. I feel like the CPU is trying to hit the corners but are missing a lot and thus so many pitches finding their way over the heart of the plate. My next game is against Verlander, best pitcher I will have faced since Darvish and prior to the consistency slider change so will probably play that one with the exact same settings as the OP and if that also goes south then I'll start toying with the CPU pitch sliders to see if I can get them more accurate while maintaining walks for myself.
            http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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            • devrasec
              Rookie
              • Apr 2017
              • 56

              #1056
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Armor, the MLB needs a slider set, Nats 23, Mets 5 LoL

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              • bcruise
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 23274

                #1057
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                Originally posted by devrasec
                Armor, the MLB needs a slider set, Nats 23, Mets 5 LoL

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                That game was just bizarre.

                The wind was even blowing in.

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                • forme95
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 3118

                  #1058
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  Just went 16 innings with these sliders striking out 19x. Losing 1-2. Yikes I just play worse when it comes to extra innings, I had to finally just end the game lol. I just couldn't take it anymore. Game is in my twitch feed

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                  Last edited by forme95; 05-01-2017, 10:12 AM.
                  Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                  Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                  CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                  MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                  Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                  • mer1in20
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 238

                    #1059
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    Decided to restart my franchise considering i was only two games in. First game red sox (me) vs pirates. Sale and cole got smacked all over the yard. Cole couldnt find the strike zone walking 4, gave up 4 homers, 4 doubles and 18 hits altogether. Sale got hit pretty good giving up 5 runs on 8 hits in 7 innings of work. He only walked one. Crazy home opener.


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                    • WrigleyFaithful
                      Rookie
                      • May 2011
                      • 21

                      #1060
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Originally posted by devrasec
                      Armor, the MLB needs a slider set, Nats 23, Mets 5 LoL

                      Sent from my Nexus 6 using Operation Sports mobile app
                      Washington hit 7 home runs with 23 hits, only struck out 6 times as an offense with that many extra at bats? Anthony Rendon 6 for 6 3 hr 10 driven in? This crap is broken Armor!! Maybe just maybe SDS was onto something. Between last year where the home run totals were the highest since 2000 and this year where offense is back up again. It's like we have all become accustomed to the post steroid, pitching dominated years from 07 to 2015 or so. I'm beginning to believe offense is back on the rise and the statistics are showing it.

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                      • forme95
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 3118

                        #1061
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        Originally posted by WrigleyFaithful
                        Washington hit 7 home runs with 23 hits, only struck out 6 times as an offense with that many extra at bats? Anthony Rendon 6 for 6 3 hr 10 driven in? This crap is broken Armor!! Maybe just maybe SDS was onto something. Between last year where the home run totals were the highest since 2000 and this year where offense is back up again. It's like we have all become accustomed to the post steroid, pitching dominated years from 07 to 2015 or so. I'm beginning to believe offense is back on the rise and the statistics are showing it.
                        Lol, I actually just created a post yesterday saying "The Show maybe had it right after all"

                        Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
                        Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                        Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                        CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                        MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                        Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                        • BleacherCreature
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3160

                          #1062
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          Originally posted by devrasec
                          Armor, the MLB needs a slider set, Nats 23, Mets 5 LoL

                          Sent from my Nexus 6 using Operation Sports mobile app


                          Just drop power down 2 notches whenever Rondon is at the plate.


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                          • devrasec
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 56

                            #1063
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                            Just drop power down 2 notches whenever Rondon is at the plate.


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                            I'll try this lol [emoji23]

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                            • knich
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1116

                              #1064
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Armor and Josh..major props to you guys. I am really enjoying these sliders. Post patch, my hitting really seemed muted until I tried your latest version. Game is playing great now in all respects, including much improved bullpen AI. I just finished a game at Coors where Cubs had 23 hits and only 1 of the hits was a home run. 434 ft bomb by Contreras. Before that game using your sliders, I had a couple games where I only got 3-4 hits. But even in those games, the game felt right and I was hitting the ball well...just at players. BTW..15 of my hits at Coors came in 8th and 9th innings. Thanks!

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                              • JHedges2
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 4651

                                #1065
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                So here is my daily method with 30 team control

                                1) Load Quick manage/Sim sliders

                                2) Simulate all games on the schedule for the day except my game

                                3) Load in gameplay slider set and play my game.

                                4) Load the QM/Sim set once again to advance the day (because minor league games for my team are still un-played and I need injuries on 5 not 8 or the minors will be an infirmary

                                Rinse and repeat.
                                Curious as to how critical this is? Is the only difference in the 'main' set from the QM/Sim set the injuries, or are there others? I skimmed (quickly)...

                                TIA!
                                Arsenal | New York Yankees

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