Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

[Mike Lowe]

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Guys, I wanted to take a quick minute and just say thank you for all of the positive feedback and constructive criticism on making these sliders really the best they've ever been. I appreciate it a great deal!

I love baseball, and I'm glad we get to share this getting-it-right experience together!

[Jello]

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I'm honestly not sold on baserunner speed. I've hit a ball into the right field corner and left field corner now in my current game and neither player even attempted second base. Both balls hit the outfield wall in the corner. RF corner was a 53 speed runner and LF corner was a 44.

[Mike Lowe]

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I'm honestly not sold on baserunner speed. I've hit a ball into the right field corner and left field corner now in my current game and neither player even attempted second base. Both balls hit the outfield wall in the corner. RF corner was a 53 speed runner and LF corner was a 44.

What has you convinced that's an issue w baserunner speed versus fielder speed?

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[Jello]

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What has you convinced that's an issue w baserunner speed versus fielder speed?

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Both of them felt like natural doubles even with slow runners. I just assumed that was a baserunner speed issue. You think it could be the outfielder getting there a hair too soon?

[Mike Lowe]

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Both of them felt like natural doubles even with slow runners. I just assumed that was a baserunner speed issue. You think it could be the outfielder getting there a hair too soon?

What were the corner outfielders like? Good arms? Fast?

It all feels fine to me--sometimes guys get thrown out. Check your outfield assist numbers and compare them to other teams around the league.

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[Jello]

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What were the corner outfielders like? Good arms? Fast?

It all feels fine to me--sometimes guys get thrown out. Check your outfield assist numbers and compare them to other teams around the league.

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I use auto fielding and running. Like I said, neither batter even attempted second base.

[Mike Lowe]

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I'm really thinking we need to lower human timing. I want more of the bad swings we take to result in more swings and missed (and strikeouts) versus just weak contact which only lower BABIP.

Thing is, I'm swinging and missing at a good clip already, and have the perfect amount of foul balls.

If we did lower timing, we could consider offsetting it some by putting solid hits +1 to 10.

Another option to increase Ks would be to lower contact, but I feel that will inpact too many other things.

I digress. Thinking aloud.

We just beat the Padres 5-0. Volquez gets the first CG/SO I've had with my sliders in a veeeeery long time. Padres are pretty bad.

Stanton hit his 6th HR.

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[Mike Lowe]

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Also, if you're having trouble striking out the AI, make sure you try and max pitch effectiveness (meter) when going for that third strike. It helps, and will also lead to more walks --a nice gamble, so to speak.

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[Mike Lowe]

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I use auto fielding and running. Like I said, neither batter even attempted second base.

Right, what I was trying to say is there are defensive variables to take into account, and those will always be more reliable than any sort of feel.

Certain guys can limit 2Bs to singles w their speed, proper angles, arm strength, etc.

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[dutchy25]

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Hey Mike, I'm really having trouble stealing bases. I don't think it has anything to do with your sliders because the CPU steals seem to be fine. My guys however get terrible jumps even with fairly good steal attributes. I play with KC and they use the steal as a major weapon but I can't seem to get it right. Do I need to up the stealing ability slider?

I know you have Dee Gordon. Have you seen any problems swiping bags?


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[Mike Lowe]

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Hey Mike, I'm really having trouble stealing bases. I don't think it has anything to do with your sliders because the CPU steals seem to be fine. My guys however get terrible jumps even with fairly good steal attributes. I play with KC and they use the steal as a major weapon but I can't seem to get it right. Do I need to up the stealing ability slider?

I know you have Dee Gordon. Have you seen any problems swiping bags?


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The game is a lot smarter this year and pick up on our tendencies. I stole 3 for 3 in my last game against the Padres, and I really tried to vary when I was running, and who I was taking more aggressive leads with (basically just Gordon). I try and let the situation dictate when to run as apposed to saying, "Oh, he's on base. Better steal!"

I feel that's exactly what the AI is thinking...

[dutchy25]

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Hey Mike, I'm really having trouble stealing bases. I don't think it has anything to do with your sliders because the CPU steals seem to be fine. My guys however get terrible jumps even with fairly good steal attributes. I play with KC and they use the steal as a major weapon but I can't seem to get it right. Do I need to up the stealing ability slider?

I know you have Dee Gordon. Have you seen any problems swiping bags?


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And let me clarify a bit. It's not like I'm getting thrown out on bang bang plays. The fielder gets the ball and is waiting for me. Most jumps are so bad the ball is out of the pitchers hand before the runner moves. I tried not to cheat and go back but it's gotten to the point I'm going to have to or just stop stealing at all.


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[dutchy25]

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The game is a lot smarter this year and pick up on our tendencies. I stole 3 for 3 in my last game against the Padres, and I really tried to vary when I was running, and who I was taking more aggressive leads with (basically just Gordon). I try and let the situation dictate when to run as apposed to saying, "Oh, he's on base. Better steal!"

I feel that's exactly what the AI is thinking...

Yeah I feel like I do a good job of picking my spots. Cain, Mondesi, and Merrifield aren't going to put up huge steal totals. But I haven't successfully stolen a bag with any of them. Its not pitch outs either.

To add to it I have Terrance Gore on the bench. His steal success rate in both the minors and majors is above 90% and I'm 2 for 5 with him in games played.


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[xNobleEaglex]

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And let me clarify a bit. It's not like I'm getting thrown out on bang bang plays. The fielder gets the ball and is waiting for me. Most jumps are so bad the ball is out of the pitchers hand before the runner moves. I tried not to cheat and go back but it's gotten to the point I'm going to have to or just stop stealing at all.


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I am also seeing this problem in my Astros test franchise, and I feel like I do a pretty good job of picking different spots to run. However, I have never been one to lengthen a runners lead (never had to before), so maybe that is the issue? In previous versions of the Show, you could run at a good clip with just a standard lead, and the CPU would try a pickoff every time you thought about taking an additional step. Has that been improved this year, so that you actually have to take a good lead, even with a good base stealer like Altuve?

[dsmith710]

Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I was curious about stealing also, especially with the jumps. It does seem like guys take off wayyyy too late sometimes. My first two attempts in my season were: what seemed like an insanely late jump with what I think I remember to be a slide step by the pitcher, and the second time I thought was another terrible jump I got completely nailed on a pitch out. So of course I was a little frustrated.

After that I gave it some thought and really paid attention to the pitcher and his delivery. If he's got a slow delivery from the stretch and I've got a speedster on base I might try. But I try to feel him out during the at bat, is he slide stepping? Throwing over? If he's not utilizing a slide step and I've got a hitters count, that's when I decide if I'm going or not.

The next few tries I successfully stole bases and it's an awesome feeling when you pick the right spots.