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  • Mike Lowe
    All Star
    • Dec 2006
    • 5286

    #346
    Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

    Originally posted by jmel07
    You guys play on default 5/5 pitch speeds?

    I can't time the offspeed stuff to save my life. I started my real franchise last night and decided to use these sliders and forgot to move the offspeed speed up to 7. I Kd 18 times. I'm VE on almost everything changeup or curveball and then behind good fastballs coming off those.

    CPU Babip was .318. Mine was something insane because I only put 9 balls in play.

    The crazy thing is that I'm a patient hitter and work the count. Even when I move offspeed up to 7 I normally strike out 10 times per game.

    The one issue I note with these sliders are that the CPU pounds the zone on 0-2 and 1-2 counts. I haven't compared this to actual pitch sequencing in MLB but I tend to get caught looking when I attempt to lay off the pitches I think are low because they pump in so many strikes. I do agree that first pitch strikes are perfect however.

    Finally, fielder speed looks great, love it. 2-3, somewhere in there is perfect.
    I always try and stick to the default game speed for folks who also like to go and play online. It's a nightmare to have to adjust otherwise. Granted, I'm pretty sure HoF actually speeds up pitching (or so it seems?), and DD is on All-Star (or at least it was in previous years...I don't play DD).

    Yeah, it takes some MAJOR adjusting and patience, but I'm finally starting to get it. I've been horendous with guys like Giancarlo Stanton who has a fast/pull swing, and I'm early a lot, even just trying to stay within myself and hit for a single.

    But it's coming around.

    The idea with these sliders is that we want to see some swings and misses. They have 21% of the time on swings in MLB, and it's one of the ways we see accurate pitch counts, walks, etc. as well. If we put every swing in play, well we'd be playing slow pitch softball (a fun game idea!).

    I think the pounding the zone is an abnormality based on a number of factors: 1) you may have been facing an "ace" who will throw close to 70% strikes (as they typically do IRL). Also, if you're swinging and missing as much as you reported, I'd just throw it over the plate too--especially if you've demonstrated you have a good eye to lay off balls.

    Make sense? It's all about the game picking up your tendencies. The same can be said for guys not walking enough batters while pitching--it has more to do with the game picking up on you throwing too many strtikes and being aggressive than anything to do with sliders. I get walks and strikeouts because I'm not afraid to pitch out of the zone on any count, and I try and keep the AI off balance.

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    • louthedew
      Rookie
      • Apr 2017
      • 52

      #347
      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

      Mike for these sliders specifically some of the Changes made for the latest version (power,solid hits, etc) any recommended or thoughts on if I use directional instead of zone?

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      • Mike Lowe
        All Star
        • Dec 2006
        • 5286

        #348
        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

        Originally posted by louthedew
        Mike for these sliders specifically some of the Changes made for the latest version (power,solid hits, etc) any recommended or thoughts on if I use directional instead of zone?
        They are all in the 1st post.

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        • Mike Lowe
          All Star
          • Dec 2006
          • 5286

          #349
          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

          Just hit a HR with 35 year old catcher AJ Ellis. His ratings against righties: 34 contact, 35 power. 349 feet. User power at 0.

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          • Fcshuckers73
            Pro
            • Sep 2011
            • 738

            #350
            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

            Originally posted by Mike Lowe
            Just hit a HR with 35 year old catcher AJ Ellis. His ratings against righties: 34 contact, 35 power. 349 feet. User power at 0.

            Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
            How strong was the wind blowing out in the direction he hit it?

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            • Mike Lowe
              All Star
              • Dec 2006
              • 5286

              #351
              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

              Originally posted by Fcshuckers73
              How strong was the wind blowing out in the direction he hit it?
              Seattle with the roof closed. Loving v1.11!

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              • Mike Lowe
                All Star
                • Dec 2006
                • 5286

                #352
                Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                Two changes I'm giving some thought to, so please discuss, are:

                Human timing -1 to 4 (or lower eventually). This should actually have our strikeouts increase some as we begin to become better hitters. Subtle change.

                User pitcher control -1 to 0. Should help lead to more AI batters walking, and making pitching slightly more challenging. Once you get a feel for your pitching mechanics, you can still pitch cautiously and/or aggressively in the right situations.

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                • jmel07
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 185

                  #353
                  Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                  Nifty!

                  I'll tell you what, I haven't seen a no doubter since I left default sliders. Before that they were extremely common. That's how I know it's working. Now if we could only solve rocket bunting (and I swear I saw normal bunts before the very first update).

                  I did have a great game last night despite my issue with swing timing. CPU had 4 runs on 9 hits (even though all 4 runs were scored via HR, they were bad pitches on my part twice, and a hanger the third time). I thwarted another rally the CPU had with a single and a walk to lead off an inning with a nice DP.

                  I had 2 runs on 5 hits. RBI double and an RBI single after stealing a bag with Keon Broxton (man he's fast). I also had a chance to tie the game in both the 8th and 9th and performed awfully (as previously noted).

                  I'll probably load some box scores into this thread as I go.

                  Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                  Seattle with the roof closed. Loving v1.11!

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                  • Mike Lowe
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 5286

                    #354
                    Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                    My last game had me pumping my fist as Ramos worked for the save leading 3-0 with 2 men on and Cano up. Struck him out on a 3-2 CB (shook off my catcher for the first time that game). He then got the next hitter to pop out.

                    Game over. Stanton hits a single, a solo shot, and had 2 RBIs.

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                    • richinspirit
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 331

                      #355
                      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                      Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                      Two changes I'm giving some thought to, so please discuss, are:

                      Human timing -1 to 4 (or lower eventually). This should actually have our strikeouts increase some as we begin to become better hitters. Subtle change.

                      User pitcher control -1 to 0. Should help lead to more AI batters walking, and making pitching slightly more challenging. Once you get a feel for your pitching mechanics, you can still pitch cautiously and/or aggressively in the right situations.

                      Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
                      Will lower hum control negatively impact strikeouts?
                      Currently playing MLB 23

                      Pipe dream: a good cricket game! (still)

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                      • Mike Lowe
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 5286

                        #356
                        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                        Originally posted by richinspirit
                        Will lower hum control negatively impact strikeouts?
                        It shouldn't.

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                        • TheZomBee
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 10

                          #357
                          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                          Had a very nice game with the Tigers (Fulmer) against the Rays (Andriese). 11-6 for Detroit was the final score after 12 innings.
                          A few things I noticed:

                          * I had 14 hits for a .350 BABIP (Solid hits at 9 felt really good to me), but the CPU had 7 hits for a .260 BABIP. I gave up 9 walks though, so obviously they didn't have many balls in play.

                          * I was hoping the CPU would make me pay a few more times for hanging some breaking balls or missing down the middle, I felt like I got away with one too many.

                          * The CPU batters took around 50% of pitches, not sure if that's normal. It could be me just trying to work the corners too much, or the Rays' hitters being very patient, as most of them are in real life.

                          * There were 4 total Home Runs in the game (2 for each side), plus a few gappers, so power is definitely not an issue.

                          I'll keep trying these, but all in all if the CPU can become a bit less forgiving and get a few more hits I won't have to look any further for the perfect slider set.

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                          • Mike Lowe
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 5286

                            #358
                            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                            Originally posted by TheZomBee
                            Had a very nice game with the Tigers (Fulmer) against the Rays (Andriese). 11-6 for Detroit was the final score after 12 innings.
                            A few things I noticed:

                            * I had 14 hits for a .350 BABIP (Solid hits at 9 felt really good to me), but the CPU had 7 hits for a .260 BABIP. I gave up 9 walks though, so obviously they didn't have many balls in play.

                            * I was hoping the CPU would make me pay a few more times for hanging some breaking balls or missing down the middle, I felt like I got away with one too many.

                            * The CPU batters took around 50% of pitches, not sure if that's normal. It could be me just trying to work the corners too much, or the Rays' hitters being very patient, as most of them are in real life.

                            * There were 4 total Home Runs in the game (2 for each side), plus a few gappers, so power is definitely not an issue.

                            I'll keep trying these, but all in all if the CPU can become a bit less forgiving and get a few more hits I won't have to look any further for the perfect slider set.
                            You can try what I suggested earlier and lower user pitch control to -1 to zero. You can also raise CPU solid hits to +1 to 6 as that is the slider that most impacts BABIP (once you have fielder speed right, which we do).

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                            • Velocityy
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 485

                              #359
                              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                              Alrighty guys, the PS4 Pro, MLB The Show, and Horizon Zero Dawn have been picked up! Can't wait to play The Show for the first time ever, lol. Stupid Xbox w/o an MLB game.

                              Love that you all seem to be having great games with these sliders right now! I'll be plugging them in right away!

                              Wondering, do you guys do Spring Training, or just skip straight to the season?
                              Teams:
                              Yankees // Broncos // Blazers // Syracuse // Devils // Southampton // Timbers

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                              • Mike Lowe
                                All Star
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 5286

                                #360
                                Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                                Originally posted by Velocityy
                                Alrighty guys, the PS4 Pro, MLB The Show, and Horizon Zero Dawn have been picked up! Can't wait to play The Show for the first time ever, lol. Stupid Xbox w/o an MLB game.

                                Love that you all seem to be having great games with these sliders right now! I'll be plugging them in right away!

                                Wondering, do you guys do Spring Training, or just skip straight to the season?
                                I simulate the preseason to create some injuries.

                                I also adjust OSFM rosters to include 40-man rosters and move up those guys in A ball who are injured in real life because I'm creating my own unique universe.

                                Still not sure why OSFM doesn't include 40-man rosters.

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