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  • parky_17
    Rookie
    • Mar 2013
    • 395

    #376
    Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

    Originally posted by Mike Lowe
    Version 1.11 (4-17-17)

    FAQs
    • Yes, I believe these will work fine on All-Star, HoF, or perhaps other difficult levels.
    • I use zone hitting, HoF, but with the cursor off.
    • I do move my cursor around, but also keep a simple gameplan in place for each at bat, and try not to over-complicate my at-bats.
    • I pitch for the edges, look to get the AI to chase, so walks and Ks will happen.
    • I try and not throw wild pitches with runners on base as the catchers in this game just aren't all that great at blocking pitches in the dirt.
    • I use auto-fielding for the added animations (and better defensive plays) that you simply will not see on manual fielding. If you don't believe me, go check my Twitter.

    Welcome
    Thanks for checking out my sliders for MLB The Show '17! This is my third season working on sliders for this game, which includes one of those seasons being a full 162 games where all games and all pitches were played.

    I've been involved in game development as a freelance hobby, most notably as a beta tester for Out of the Park Baseball since 2008, and I'm heavily focused on details and accuracy of simulation, striving to have a slider set that matches modern MLB output, but also across the simulated game spectrum.

    Goals of this set (approximates, and won't be every single game):
    Backup/Sim/Resim to limit AI complete games and shutouts (may not be necessary in '17)
    60% first pitch strikes
    62% ball:strike ratio, but 65-68% for higher-end pitchers
    .300 team BABIP (BABIP calculator)
    15% foul balls per total pitches
    21% swings and misses per total number of swings (misses plus strikeouts)
    HBP should fall in-line with simulated games
    Depending on repertoire, varied flyball to groundball ratios
    The rest of your statistical accuracy will come from these. Simple.

    *****I stream some games from my franchise, and you can see my results, box scores, etc at the end of each game. The link can be found in my signature.*****

    I've been playing the show since the game first came out, and I'd say I'm a good player, having once been ranked in the Top 100 in Diamond Dynasty (no longer play that mode much). Most importantly, I love baseball and am always looking for ways to make The Show as realistic as possible, even if that means I don't win the division every year. I hope you find some value in these sliders and if not, be sure and check out some of the others on OS.

    ***Lastly, make sure you spend more time playing the game than exploring the sliders forum!***

    Nutshell Version
    This set is based on accurate first pitch strikes, ball to strike ratios, BABIP, foul ball %, swinging miss %, and groundball to flyball ratios. This is also the only slider I set I've seen that will give you accurate HBP totals for played games.

    Detailed Version
    These sliders are designed for folks who've found they're in need of a more challenging set when compared to the more popular slider sets out there for MLB The Show. I was using some of those sliders before myself, but they became far too easy to dominate and win.

    Regardless of which slider set you choose, it's important for you the gamer to take ownership of YOUR sliders and move beyond slider dependency/slideritis, and learn how to comfortably tweak them without feeling as though the sky is falling.

    Dymanic difficult is a brilliant idea, but it's too simplified--instead, take up the challenge to dynamically adjust your OWN difficult (sliders/settings) as you go. I'm not a fan of "final" or "locked" sliders because you should always be evaluating and tweaking to adjust to your improved gameplay during the season; you're going to be better on game 162 than you are in game 1, period.

    At the same time, this game is clean and balanced enough that you don't need to restart over and over just because you bumped a few sliders up or down. Just play and continually check yourself against the league stats and rankings.

    The game plays well out of the box, and variety AND oddities are a part of baseball; over the course of 162 games, it will level itself out just fine, and the cream will rise to the top. Don't worry if you're not the cream every season.

    Use these sliders as a base and tweak, because we ALL play differently and have our own unique skill sets. You don't need to wait to start a franchise to use these sliders, you don't need to start anything over, and you can tweak during your season as you won't be seeing anything out of the realm of possibility, and certainly nothing that won't stand the test of time over 162 games.

    *****Staying locked into a bad slider set for 162 games is the only thing that will skew your results one way or another, so don't do that!*****

    GAMEPLAY OPTIONS
    If you'd like, share your box scores here

    BATTING & BASERUNNING

    Hitting Difficulty - All-Star or HoF
    Hitting Interface - Directional or Zone
    Input Type - Buttons
    Plate Coverage Indicator - Off
    PCI Appearance - Wedge (for Zone)
    Camera Shift - Off
    Hitting View – The Show 15 (gives most realistic 66' 6" view from mound)
    In-Play View Offense - Broadcast
    Ball Trail - Off
    Guess Pitch - Off
    Baserunning Decisions - Assist
    Baserunning Interface - Default
    Sliding Decisions - Assist
    Runner Windows - On

    PITCHING
    Pitching Difficulty - Hall of Fame
    Pitching Interface - Meter (classic and pulse will work fine as well, so long as you're evaluating your performance)
    Pitch Feedback - Off
    Pitching View – Broadcast or Outfield (broadcast seems to glitch SI swings making them appear very slow)
    Pitching Ball Marker - Off
    Pitch Confidence - On
    Pitch Delay - Normal
    API - Default

    FIELDING
    Throwing Interface - Buttons
    Throwing Meter - No Feedback
    Throwing Difficulty - Hall of Fame
    Fielding Decision - Auto or Assist (manual fielding)
    Throwing Decision - On or Off (manual fielding)
    In-Play View Defense - Broadcast
    Throw Cancelling - On
    One Button Dive/Jump - Off
    Catch Position Indicator - On
    Defensive Shift - Auto (but adjust yourself too if need be)

    GENERAL
    Strike Zone - Off
    Hot Zones - Always Preview
    Warm Up Pitchers - On or Off
    Tutorial Tips - Off
    Post Game Auto Save - Off
    Scorebar Display - On
    Pitch Select Display - On
    Swing/Pitch Info - On
    Balks - On
    Umpire Accuracy - Personalized
    Umpire Close Plays - Off (to simulate instant replay)
    Check Swing Appeals - On
    Injuries - On
    Ejections - On
    Vibration - Off
    Game Log Order - Default

    Presentation, Audio, & Mode-Specific Options
    All user choice

    HOUSE RULES (Optional)
    *Don't feel you must use 30 team control. Live with the fact that the league lives, breathes on its own. If you think the trades are strange, go and review previous MLB regular seasons transactions.
    *Manager contracts - On
    *Do not activate any sponsors--the AI teams do not have this advantage.
    *If you want the artist rendition bio pictures, start your franchise with a fantasy draft, then back out of it before the first selection is made. Rosters will still be intact.
    *Do not "visit mound" at the very start of an inning.
    *No going back to the bag on a steal attempt.
    *Assume the AI teams only want to deal primarily from their trade block. Don't abuse the shop player feature.
    *No changing of staff until the offseason unless AI team does so first.

    SLIDERS
    Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity - 5 (ignored)
    Human Contact - 5
    Human Power - 3 (0 zone)
    Human Timing - 5 (5 zone)
    Human Foul Frequency - 3 (5 zone)
    Human Solid Hits - 6 (All Star) 9 (HoF)
    Human Starter Stamina - 5
    Human Reliever Stamina - 5
    Human Pitch Control - 1
    Human Pitcher Consistency - 3
    CPU Contact - 5
    CPU Power - 2
    CPU Timing - 1
    CPU Foul Frequency - 0
    CPU Solid Hits - 5
    CPU Starter Stamina - 5 (sim at 10)
    CPU Reliever Stamina - 5 (sim at 0)
    CPU Pitcher Control - 5
    CPU Pitcher Consistency - 2
    CPU Strike Frequency - 5
    CPU Manager Hook - 2 (once AI goes to bullpen 7, and sim at 7)
    CPU Pickoffs - 9
    Fastball Pitch Speed - 5 (accurate pull hitters)
    Offspeed Pitch Speed - 5 (accurate pull hitters)
    Fielding Errors Infield - 9
    Fielding Errors Outfield - 7
    Throwing Errors Infield - 9
    Throwing Errors Outfield - 8
    Fielder Run Speed – 2
    Fielder Reaction - 5
    Fielder Arm Strength Infield - 4
    Fielder Arm Strength Outfield - 4
    Baserunner Speed - 2
    Baserunner Steal Ability - 5
    Baserunner Steal Frequency - 5
    Wind - 4
    Injury Frequency - 9 (based off MLB % comparison)
    Trade Frequency - 5 (see post 2 below)
    I've been getting frustrated with this game lately with the sliders at default so I'm gonna check these out, only thing I'll do different really is to use analog pitching

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    • richinspirit
      Rookie
      • Jun 2009
      • 331

      #377
      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

      I just read the following on mlb.com

      "In 2015, batters hit 723 more homers than they had in '14. In '16, they hit 701 more homers than they had in '15. That's more than 1,400 additional dingers in just two seasons, with the 5,610 home runs in '16 representing the second-highest total on record, behind only the height of the homer-happy era in 2000"

      Maybe we shouldn't have been so worried about high home run totals after all :-P
      Currently playing MLB 23

      Pipe dream: a good cricket game! (still)

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      • parky_17
        Rookie
        • Mar 2013
        • 395

        #378
        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

        Is this set in the vault?

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        • Mike Lowe
          All Star
          • Dec 2006
          • 5286

          #379
          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

          Originally posted by parky_17
          Is this set in the vault?

          Sent from my SM-G920F using Operation Sports mobile app
          I do not use the vault as there would be too many versions floating around which might confused people.

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          • parky_17
            Rookie
            • Mar 2013
            • 395

            #380
            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

            Originally posted by Mike Lowe
            I do not use the vault as there would be too many versions floating around which might confused people.
            Yeah all good, I couldn't find them so I've just input them myself

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            • Mike Lowe
              All Star
              • Dec 2006
              • 5286

              #381
              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

              In a few minutes, I'll be streaming my April 19th game (Marlins @ Mariners) and sampling one or two changes I'm thinking about for v1.12 of this slider set.

              Come on in and chat MLB, Show, baseball, whatever!

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              • richinspirit
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 331

                #382
                Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                In a few minutes, I'll be streaming my April 19th game (Marlins @ Mariners) and sampling one or two changes I'm thinking about for v1.12 of this slider set.

                Come on in and chat MLB, Show, baseball, whatever!
                Thinking solids back to 8 for hum, you?
                Currently playing MLB 23

                Pipe dream: a good cricket game! (still)

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                • GWPump23
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 361

                  #383
                  Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                  Originally posted by dutchy25
                  Hey Mike, I know we have conversations going on in multiple threads but atleast they are the different topics.

                  Is it possible that Power had been turned down by the devs?

                  I've been following along with your sliders and was getting accurate results. But the last 6 games I've played I haven't seen a HR by either side. Really haven't seen too many deep fly balls either.

                  Is anyone else having similar results?


                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

                  There wasn't a patch, but there WAS an "update"... yes? And, who knows what was updated as the developers are MIA right now? I mean it's a possibility, no?

                  Weather it be an under the hood drop in power or US dropping power to zero, this game bacame very sluggish. I've run test franchises with every version of these slider sets but 1.11 has it's very own feeling to them...

                  I STILL think There's a wind-to-ball physics issue going on here...

                  Draw an imaginary line from home plate, cross over the pitcher's mound, continue over 2B & straight through the OF grass & over the CF wall & hit a ball to the left of that with wind blowing left to right... that ball is dying. Hit a ball to the right with wind blowing left to right... you may have a chance at something?

                  VERY curious to see what 1.12 brings...

                  A slight bump in power, with a drop in solid hits & wind might be worth exploring one day IMO...

                  -GW-
                  Last edited by GWPump23; 04-19-2017, 07:24 PM.
                  "Never go short in the land of plenty..."

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                  • parky_17
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 395

                    #384
                    Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="13">Toronto Blue Jays at Tampa Bay Rays</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">Apr 6, </td><td align="right" width="5%">1</td><td align="right" width="5%">2</td><td align="right" width="5%">3</td><td align="right" width="5%">4</td><td align="right" width="5%">5</td><td align="right" width="5%">6</td><td align="right" width="5%">7</td><td align="right" width="5%">8</td><td align="right" width="5%">9</td><td align="right" width="5%">R</td><td align="right" width="5%">H</td><td align="right" width="5%">E</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Toronto (1-1)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">4</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tampa Bay (1-2)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" colspan="13"><b>W:</b> Marcus Stroman <b>L:</b> Matt Andriese <b>S:</b> Roberto Osuna</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="5">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3" width="84%">SCORING DETAILS</td><td align="right" width="8%">TOR</td><td align="right" width="8%">TAM</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%">TOR</td><td align="center" width="7%">4</td><td width="70%">Pearce grounded to right for a single. Bautista scored. Morales moved to third</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td><td align="right" width="8%">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%">TOR</td><td align="center" width="7%">5</td><td width="70%">Bautista homered to center (436ft). Pillar, Donaldson & Bautista score</td><td align="right" width="8%">4</td><td align="right" width="8%">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="7%">TAM</td><td align="center" width="7%">8</td><td width="70%">Kiermaier homered to right off the foul pole (333ft)</td><td align="right" width="8%">4</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#043EA4" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Toronto Blue Jays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Devon Travis</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.083</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Josh Donaldson</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.385</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jose Bautista</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">.556</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Kendrys Morales</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.154</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Troy Tulowitzki</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.000</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Steve Pearce</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.273</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Justin Smoak</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.111</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Russell Martin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.200</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kevin Pillar</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.091</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BATTING:</u></b><br /><b>2B:</b> Donaldson<br /><b>HR:</b> Bautista<br /><b>RBI:</b> Bautista 3, Pearce</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#00275D" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Tampa Bay Rays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kevin Kiermaier</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">.211</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Matt Duffy</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.412</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Corey Dickerson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.364</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Evan Longoria</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.250</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brad Miller</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.267</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Wilson Ramos</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.500</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Colby Rasmus</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.214</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Steven Souza Jr</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.071</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rickie Weeks</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.071</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BATTING:</u></b><br /><b>2B:</b> Rasmus<br /><b>HR:</b> Kiermaier<br /><b>RBI:</b> Kiermaier<br /><b>GIDP:</b> Dickerson</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#043EA4" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Toronto Blue Jays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marcus Stroman</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Aaron Loup</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jason Grilli</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">5.40</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Roberto Osuna</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#00275D" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Tampa Bay Rays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Matt Andriese</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">7.20</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Nate Eovaldi</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">3.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brad Boxberger</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Danny Farquhar</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr></table></body></html>



                    My first game using these and I liked the way this game played out, one thing I noticed is with the CPU timing at 1 I was getting them to swing and miss a lot and then Kiermaier took me deep
                    And the thing I liked most was just the way the ball was coming off the bat, when I was playing at default everything seemed hard off the bat, it felt like the new ball physics really came into play with these settings
                    Looking forward to how these play out in the coming games
                    Last edited by parky_17; 04-19-2017, 07:30 PM.
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                    • Mike Lowe
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 5286

                      #385
                      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                      Originally posted by GWPump23
                      There wasn't a patch, but there WAS an "update"... yes? And, who knows what was updated as the developers are MIA right now? I mean it's a possibility, no?

                      Weather it be an under the hood drop in power or US dropping power to zero, this game bacame very sluggish. I've run test franchises with every version of these slider sets but 1.11 has it's very own feeling to them...

                      I STILL think There's a wind-to-ball physics issue going on here...

                      Draw an imaginary line from home plate, cross over the pitcher's mound, continue over 2B & straight through the OF grass & over the CF wall & hit a ball to the left of that with wind blowing left to right... that ball is dying. Hit a ball to the right with wind blowing left to right... you may have a chance at something?

                      VERY curious to see what 1.12 brings...

                      A slight bump in power, with a drop in solid hits & wind might be worth exploring one day IMO...

                      -GW-
                      That's exactly how the wind affects baseballs.

                      As for power, if you're not hitting HRs, it has little to do w the power setting and everything to do with how well you're connecting on pitches with good location and good timing.

                      Nicely put, it's you, not the sliders!

                      But that's ok--lots are adjusting for different things. Up power and see how you do, but it's not going to make you magically a better hitter. Only practice will do that, sir!

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                      • GWPump23
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 361

                        #386
                        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                        Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                        That's exactly how the wind affects baseballs.

                        As for power, if you're not hitting HRs, it has little to do w the power setting and everything to do with how well you're connecting on pitches with good location and good timing.

                        Nicely put, it's you, not the sliders!

                        But that's ok--lots are adjusting for different things. Up power and see how you do, but it's not going to make you magically a better hitter. Only practice will do that, sir!

                        Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

                        Agreed, It's clearly me so far & not much of a sample size either.

                        Just hit a HR with Aaron Hicks, so it's possible...

                        Just wish 3 MPH winds didn't effect ball flights like 20 MPH winds is all...

                        Gunna fire up my actual franchise tonight & will report back in a few days...

                        Really do appreciate you & your efforts here

                        -GW-
                        "Never go short in the land of plenty..."

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                        • Mike Lowe
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 5286

                          #387
                          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                          Originally posted by parky_17
                          <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="13">Toronto Blue Jays at Tampa Bay Rays</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">Apr 6, </td><td align="right" width="5%">1</td><td align="right" width="5%">2</td><td align="right" width="5%">3</td><td align="right" width="5%">4</td><td align="right" width="5%">5</td><td align="right" width="5%">6</td><td align="right" width="5%">7</td><td align="right" width="5%">8</td><td align="right" width="5%">9</td><td align="right" width="5%">R</td><td align="right" width="5%">H</td><td align="right" width="5%">E</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Toronto (1-1)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">4</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tampa Bay (1-2)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" colspan="13"><b>W:</b> Marcus Stroman <b>L:</b> Matt Andriese <b>S:</b> Roberto Osuna</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="5">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3" width="84%">SCORING DETAILS</td><td align="right" width="8%">TOR</td><td align="right" width="8%">TAM</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%">TOR</td><td align="center" width="7%">4</td><td width="70%">Pearce grounded to right for a single. Bautista scored. Morales moved to third</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td><td align="right" width="8%">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%">TOR</td><td align="center" width="7%">5</td><td width="70%">Bautista homered to center (436ft). Pillar, Donaldson & Bautista score</td><td align="right" width="8%">4</td><td align="right" width="8%">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="7%">TAM</td><td align="center" width="7%">8</td><td width="70%">Kiermaier homered to right off the foul pole (333ft)</td><td align="right" width="8%">4</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#043EA4" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Toronto Blue Jays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Devon Travis</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.083</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Josh Donaldson</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.385</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jose Bautista</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">.556</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Kendrys Morales</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.154</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Troy Tulowitzki</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.000</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Steve Pearce</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.273</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Justin Smoak</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.111</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Russell Martin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.200</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kevin Pillar</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.091</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BATTING:</u></b><br /><b>2B:</b> Donaldson<br /><b>HR:</b> Bautista<br /><b>RBI:</b> Bautista 3, Pearce</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#00275D" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Tampa Bay Rays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kevin Kiermaier</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">.211</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Matt Duffy</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.412</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Corey Dickerson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.364</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Evan Longoria</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.250</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brad Miller</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.267</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Wilson Ramos</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.500</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Colby Rasmus</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.214</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Steven Souza Jr</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.071</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rickie Weeks</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">.071</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BATTING:</u></b><br /><b>2B:</b> Rasmus<br /><b>HR:</b> Kiermaier<br /><b>RBI:</b> Kiermaier<br /><b>GIDP:</b> Dickerson</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#043EA4" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Toronto Blue Jays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marcus Stroman</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Aaron Loup</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jason Grilli</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">5.40</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Roberto Osuna</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#00275D" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Tampa Bay Rays</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Matt Andriese</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">7.20</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Nate Eovaldi</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">3.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brad Boxberger</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Danny Farquhar</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr></table></body></html>



                          My first game using these and I liked the way this game played out, one thing I noticed is with the CPU timing at 1 I was getting them to swing and miss a lot and then Kiermaier took me deep
                          And the thing I liked most was just the way the ball was coming off the bat, when I was playing at default everything seemed hard off the bat, it felt like the new ball physics really came into play with these settings
                          Looking forward to how these play out in the coming games
                          Don't go off of feel. What was the AI's misses+strikeouts per total swings percentage?

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                          • knich
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1116

                            #388
                            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                            Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                            I have the sliders always set for simming purposes. I sim the MLB games one by one so that they still update live in my 30-team franchise. The minor league games, I'm still not positive if those are simmed before or after my games this year (used to always be before), so I try and keep the sliders in-tact immediately before I sim MLB games and after I exit upon playing my game.

                            When I change them for gameplay is, yes, right before first pitch.
                            They sim after the MLB games. I can play my MLB game and then sim my minor league games with situational moments (I forget name) on and hop in to MILB games for my franchises.

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                            • dutchy25
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 159

                              #389
                              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                              Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                              That's exactly how the wind affects baseballs.

                              As for power, if you're not hitting HRs, it has little to do w the power setting and everything to do with how well you're connecting on pitches with good location and good timing.

                              Nicely put, it's you, not the sliders!

                              But that's ok--lots are adjusting for different things. Up power and see how you do, but it's not going to make you magically a better hitter. Only practice will do that, sir!

                              Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk


                              Yeah I understand a lot of it is me. But even balls I was toning well in the PCI weren't doing much.

                              My concern was that there were no HR's by the CPU in 8 straight games. But I did throw 3 shutouts. So again that could just be me.


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                              • aidsan121
                                Just started!
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 2

                                #390
                                Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

                                I just started my Cards franchise using ur sliders (1.8 or 1.9, not sure where to find the newer sets). I am enjoying it so far. Won the first game 4-1, lost the second 8-0, in the middle of the third now lol. Planning on playing every game so time to strap in lol... so where do I find versions 1.11 or 1.12? I know I sound like a complete noob but I'm new to this forum so not sure where they are...


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