Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

[Cliffking]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I use analog so for that is lightly going up. For pulse, I don’t know. On Meter, it’s the front end.


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Ok I'll try analog. I was on meter. Last question promise lol. Are you letting the cpu make throws for you on d

[BoyyPace]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Ok I'll try analog. I was on meter. Last question promise lol. Are you letting the cpu make throws for you on d

I don’t use help from the computer at all. Try all the pitching interfaces and see what one you like. I feel analog with Lowe’s sliders, makes it realistically tough. I love having full control over what I do. Base running, fielding, throwing, pitching. More fun to me and I don’t believe in having help from the computer.

But to each their own. Try them all. Play around with the settings and stuff and see what is most fun to you.


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[Cliffking]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I don’t use help from the computer at all. Try all the pitching interfaces and see what one you like. I feel analog with Lowe’s sliders, makes it realistically tough. I love having full control over what I do. Base running, fielding, throwing, pitching. More fun to me and I don’t believe in having help from the computer.

But to each their own. Try them all. Play around with the settings and stuff and see what is most fun to you.


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Thank you sir

[wanzalla13]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I looked through your post carefully to make sure you didn't answer this question before I asked (If I still missed your answer I apologize in advance): why is the Human slider set at only 1? I would like to try your slider when I play next time. Thanks!

*The official sliders for OSFM rosters*

*Please do not ask whether these can be used in other modes or difficulties. Instead, please read this first post and use the search feature as these questions have already been asked ad nauseam. These are made for franchise mode using the info I already wrote below. I am no longer responding to these questions.*

Version 2.8 (10-3-17)
Patch 1.11


FAQs

• Yes, these are up in the vault. Search for OSFM Mike Lowe.
• Yes, I believe these will work fine on other difficult levels.
• I use zone hitting on HoF, but with the cursor off. They will work fine with directional hitting.
• I do move my cursor around, but also keep a simple gameplan in place for each at bat, and try not to over-complicate my at-bats.
• I pitch on Legend, and pitch for the edges to look to get the AI to chase, so walks and Ks will happen. I also max out the pitch effectiveness on the meter w 2 strikes and/or 3 balls.
• I try and not throw wild pitches with runners on base as the catchers in this game just aren't all that great at blocking pitches in the dirt.
• Yes, the AI will throw some beanballs, but your HBP will be in-line with the rest of the simulated league.
• I use auto-fielding for the added animations (and better defensive plays) that you simply will not see on manual fielding. If you don't believe me, go check my Twitter.

Welcome
Thanks for checking out my sliders for MLB The Show '17! This is my third season working on sliders for this game, which includes one of those seasons being a full 162 games where all games and all pitches were played.

I've been involved in game development as a freelance hobby, most notably as a beta tester for Out of the Park Baseball since 2008, and I'm heavily focused on details and accuracy of simulation, striving to have a slider set that matches modern MLB output, but also across the simulated game spectrum.

Goals of this set (approximates, and won't be every single game):
60% first pitch strikes
62% ball:strike ratio, but 65-68% for higher-end pitchers
.300 team BABIP (BABIP calculator)
15% foul balls per total pitches
21% swings and misses per total number of swings (misses plus strikeouts)
HRs right around 1 per game, per team, maybe a tick above. (1.1-1.2)
HBP should fall in-line with simulated games
Depending on repertoire, varied flyball to groundball ratios
The rest of your statistical accuracy will come from these. Simple.

*****I stream some games from my franchise, and you can see my results, box scores, etc at the end of each game. The link can be found in my signature.*****

I've been playing the show since the game first came out, and I'd say I'm a good player, having once been ranked in the Top 100 in Diamond Dynasty (no longer play that mode much). Most importantly, I love baseball and am always looking for ways to make The Show as realistic as possible, even if that means I don't win the division every year. I hope you find some value in these sliders and if not, be sure and check out some of the others on OS.

***Lastly, make sure you spend more time playing the game than exploring the sliders forum!***

Nutshell Version
This set is based on accurate first pitch strikes, ball to strike ratios, BABIP, foul ball %, swinging miss %, HR ratios, and groundball to flyball ratios. This is also the only slider I set I've seen that will give you accurate HBP totals for played games.

Detailed Version
These sliders are designed for folks who've found they're in need of a more challenging set when compared to the more popular slider sets out there for MLB The Show. I was using some of those sliders before myself, but they became far too easy to dominate and win.

Regardless of which slider set you choose, it's important for you the gamer to take ownership of YOUR sliders and move beyond slider dependency/slideritis, and learn how to comfortably tweak them without feeling as though the sky is falling.

Dymanic difficult is a brilliant idea, but it's too simplified--instead, take up the challenge to dynamically adjust your OWN difficult (sliders/settings) as you go. I'm not a fan of "final" or "locked" sliders because you should always be evaluating and tweaking to adjust to your improved gameplay during the season; you're going to be better on game 162 than you are in game 1, period.

At the same time, this game is clean and balanced enough that you don't need to restart over and over just because you bumped a few sliders up or down. Just play and continually check yourself against the league stats and rankings, and keep sample size in mind.

The game plays well out of the box, and variety AND oddities are a part of baseball; over the course of 162 games, it will level itself out just fine, and the cream will rise to the top. Don't worry if you're not the cream every season.

Use these sliders as a base and tweak, because we ALL play differently and have our own unique skill sets. You don't need to wait to start a franchise to use these sliders, you don't need to start anything over, and you can tweak during your season as you won't be seeing anything out of the realm of possibility, and certainly nothing that won't stand the test of time over 162 games.

*****Staying locked into a bad slider set for 162 games is the only thing that will skew your results one way or another, so don't do that!*****

GAMEPLAY OPTIONS
If you'd like, share your box scores here

BATTING & BASERUNNING
Hitting Difficulty - All-Star or HoF
Hitting Interface - Directional or Zone
Input Type - Buttons
Plate Coverage Indicator - Off
PCI Appearance - Wedge (for Zone)
Camera Shift - Off
Hitting View – The Show 15 (gives most realistic 60' 6" view from mound)
In-Play View Offense - Broadcast
Ball Trail - Off
Guess Pitch - Off
Baserunning Decisions - Assist
Baserunning Interface - Default
Sliding Decisions - Assist
Runner Windows - On

PITCHING
Pitching Difficulty - Legend
Pitching Interface - Meter (classic and pulse will work fine as well, so long as you're evaluating your performance)
Pitch Feedback - Off
Pitching View – Broadcast or Outfield (broadcast seems to glitch SI swings making them appear very slow)
Pitching Ball Marker - Off
Pitch Confidence - On
Pitch Delay - Normal
API - Default

FIELDING
Throwing Interface - Buttons
Throwing Meter - No Feedback
Throwing Difficulty - Hall of Fame
Fielding Decision - Auto or Assist (manual fielding)
Throwing Decision - On or Off (manual fielding)
In-Play View Defense - Broadcast
Throw Cancelling - On
One Button Dive/Jump - Off
Catch Position Indicator - On
Defensive Shift - Auto (but adjust yourself too if need be. Auto just helps save time.)

GENERAL
Strike Zone - Off
Hot Zones - Always Preview
Warm Up Pitchers - On or Off
Tutorial Tips - Off
Post Game Auto Save - Off
Scorebar Display - On
Pitch Select Display - On
Swing/Pitch Info - On
Balks - On
Umpire Accuracy - Personalized
Umpire Close Plays - Off (to simulate instant replay)
Check Swing Appeals - On
Injuries - On
Ejections - On
Vibration - Off
Game Log Order - Default

Presentation, Audio, & Mode-Specific Options
All user choice

HOUSE RULES (Optional)
*I would turn the strike ratio way down when facing a knuckleballer.
*Don't feel you must use 30 team control. Live with the fact that the league lives, breathes on its own. If you think the trades are strange, go and review previous MLB regular seasons transactions.
*Manager contracts - On
*Do not activate any sponsors--the AI teams do not have this advantage.
*If you want the artist rendition bio pictures, start your franchise with a fantasy draft, then back out of it before the first selection is made. Rosters will still be intact.
*Do not "visit mound" at the very start of an inning.
*No going back to the bag on a steal attempt.
*Assume the AI teams only want to deal primarily from their trade block. Don't abuse the shop player feature.
*No changing of staff until the offseason unless AI team does so first.

SLIDERS
Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity - 5 (ignored)
Human Contact - 6
Human Power - 5
Human Timing - 1
Human Foul Frequency - 3
Human Solid Hits - 5
Human Starter Stamina - 5
Human Reliever Stamina - 5
Human Pitch Control - 1
Human Pitcher Consistency - 10
CPU Contact - 3
CPU Power - 5
CPU Timing - 0
CPU Foul Frequency - 0
CPU Solid Hits - 2 (-1)
CPU Starter Stamina - 5 (sim at 10)
CPU Reliever Stamina - 5 (sim at 0)
CPU Pitcher Control - 5
CPU Pitcher Consistency - 3
CPU Strike Frequency - 5
CPU Manager Hook - 2 (once AI goes to bullpen, change to 7, and sim at 7)
CPU Pickoffs - 8
Fastball Pitch Speed - 5 (accurate pull hitters)
Offspeed Pitch Speed - 5 (accurate pull hitters)
Fielding Errors Infield - 10
Fielding Errors Outfield - 8
Throwing Errors Infield - 10
Throwing Errors Outfield - 9
Fielder Run Speed – 2
Fielder Reaction - 2
Fielder Arm Strength Infield - 5
Fielder Arm Strength Outfield - 5
Baserunner Speed - 5
Baserunner Steal Ability - 5
Baserunner Steal Frequency - 5
Wind - 5
Injury Frequency - 8
Trade Frequency - 5 (see post 2 below)

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

When you go lower in the effectiveness of your pitches, are you closer to the middle of the meter or closer to the front end

Honestly just depends on how I'm feeling about that particular pitcher and moment.

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Ok I'll try analog. I was on meter. Last question promise lol. Are you letting the cpu make throws for you on d

Yes, I am, but I don't think it would matter much if you did it manually. Just keep track of your throwing errors for being too low or too high in numbers.

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I looked through your post carefully to make sure you didn't answer this question before I asked (If I still missed your answer I apologize in advance): why is the Human slider set at only 1? I would like to try your slider when I play next time. Thanks!

Which human slider are you referring to?

[wanzalla13]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Apologies again...

SLIDERS
Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity - 5 (ignored)
Human Contact - 6
Human Power - 5
This one...Human Timing - 1

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Apologies again...

SLIDERS
Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity - 5 (ignored)
Human Contact - 6
Human Power - 5
This one...Human Timing - 1

It is set at one because anything higher and you'll make way way WAY too much contact per swing attempt. You should be missing on about 21% of your total swings, including strikeouts. You can tally this information via the pause menu and batter analysis or whatever it is called.

[bcruise]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

It is set at one because anything higher and you'll make way way WAY too much contact per swing attempt. You should be missing on about 21% of your total swings, including strikeouts. You can tally this information via the pause menu and batter analysis or whatever it is called.

Sup Mike! I'm a little bit curious as to where the numbers came from for this one. I don't have access to all the stat-tracking you probably do (I'm thinking FanGraphs membership here), so I could definitely be missing something or not know where to look.

The number I've always gone by for Miss + Strikeout has been 10% (5% for each) way back since the in-game strategy guide was implemented and there was a line in there about the percentages to aim for during an average game - I believe that was written by Brian Ma or those working around him. That said....the guide is from at least 5 or 6 years ago, the text has not changed since then, and I know the game has changed such that misses and strikeouts are more prevalent now in the real MLB. Would you say that difference in real life hitting over that period of time accounts for that missing 11% between your suggestion and the guide's?

Thanks!

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Sup Mike! I'm a little bit curious as to where the numbers came from for this one. I don't have access to all the stat-tracking you probably do (I'm thinking FanGraphs membership here), so I could definitely be missing something or not know where to look.

The number I've always gone by for Miss + Strikeout has been 10% (5% for each) way back since the in-game strategy guide was implemented and there was a line in there about the percentages to aim for during an average game - I believe that was written by Brian Ma or those working around him. That said....the guide is from at least 5 or 6 years ago, the text has not changed since then, and I know the game has changed such that misses and strikeouts are more prevalent now in the real MLB. Would you say that difference in real life hitting over that period of time accounts for that missing 11% between your suggestion and the guide's?

Thanks!

21% is accurate for the more recent MLB. I would ask whether you'd prefer to believe the devs of The Show (keeping in mind their aim to make the game fun above all else), or actual statistical data from MLB.

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Still chipping away at my Marlins franchise, and the sliders are playing great still!

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[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Thought you might like to see the end of our most recent game

https://twitter.com/MikeLowe47/status/927197245744799752

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[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Just had my second straight extra innings walk-off HR!

I'm also considering bumping down human pitch control -1 to 0 as it's been easier to hit my spots using less effectiveness on the meter.

But it feels good where it is, so I'm only testing for now to see.

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[wanzalla13]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Wow! Didn't you say you pitched on Legend difficulty?