JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Love the set. Been having some really good games since using your slider set after going straight default all star since getting the game in March. That said, I've been pitching on Pulse since getting the game and have been trying to use Classic pitching per the OP but have had some trouble. So for high velocity pitches am I suppose to hold the button then wait for the vibration before I unpress the button (x, square, triangle, etc...) and for breaking pitching am I suppose to simply press the button and release immediately?

That's what really confuses me. I would love to use Classic pitching full time but I have trouble with accuracy and I know it's based on pitcher ratings but I know there's a skill to classic pitching as well.

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In short, I consider the button press duration to sort of mimic arm velocity. So max effort (vibration) is like the max arm velocity, tapping is like a low arm velocity. Max effort will (in general) be more effective, but will tire your pitcher a tad faster and make control worse. Min effort (tapping) will be the opposite.

Depending on the pitch, location and the pitch ratings, you can throw different versions of the same pitch just by varying the duration of the button press within that 1 second window before the vibration (much like how real pitchers can 'add' and 'subtract' velo) from their pitches. I can max effort a tight, higher velocity slider to an opposite handed batter to go back door, or I can min effort (tap) to throw a loopier, lower velocity slider to throw off the timing of the hitter.

Every pitcher is a bit different and it can vary game-to-game. For relievers, use those 8 warm-up pitches - you will often know if he has 'his stuff' that night or not and it will allow you to sync-in to what durations will work for him that night.

[Daonlyjmo7]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Forgot to say I tried these out earlier and absolutely love them


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[Noiziv]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I’ve been using these sliders for a couple weeks of my franchise, and the variety has definitely been there. I won a 4-2 nail-biter, and then the next game I lost 13-7. In that game, I gave up 6 HRs (I led the league in HR allowed going into that game...) and also hit 5 HRs myself. It was definitely a wild one.

By the way, I’m using the OP sliders but with HoF hitting, AS pitching, Human Timing at 4, and CPU Contact at 5.

[KingSimbaOfVa]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I’m using the exact op. I’m playing two franchises at least 40 games in for both & for both I’m leading the league in avg, hr’s, rbi’s, & slg pct. I made the move to hof & played 25 games & not much changed. Will the op work with legend hitting?


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[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I’m using the exact op. I’m playing two franchises at least 40 games in for both & for both I’m leading the league in avg, hr’s, rbi’s, & slg pct. I made the move to hof & played 25 games & not much changed. Will the op work with legend hitting?


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You are using directional hitting, right?

No idea about legend....


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[KingSimbaOfVa]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

You are using directional hitting, right?

No idea about legend....


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Yes directional hitting. Maybe the camera angle I use is it. I get good timing on swings 8/10 times. (Btw it’s the pitcher camera)


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[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Yes directional hitting. Maybe the camera angle I use is it. I get good timing on swings 8/10 times. (Btw it’s the pitcher camera)


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The "pitcher camera"? As in the tv broadcast camera angle? If so, then yeah....you're going to have a REALLY good look at every pitch.

For that angle, you'll probably need to drop timing down a notch or two AND raise the pitch velo.

[KingSimbaOfVa]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Yes that is correct. I already had timing to 4. I will try all star & HOF with maybe 2 or 3 timing and 6 or 7 pitch velocity. Thanks for the speedy replies man! Great set per usual!


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[rlb1976]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I mentioned previously that with the changes to the OP and switching to the retro camera I'm absolutely raking. I've had a few games where it wasn't too crazy, but overall hitting got way easier for me. I like how I can see the ball with the retro camera so I'd rather not change it. What would you suggest I change to maybe strike out just a little more? I'm striking out only 4 or 5 times a game total here recently. Not sure what the average is, but that seems low for an avg. I've had games where it was only once or twice.

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I mentioned previously that with the changes to the OP and switching to the retro camera I'm absolutely raking. I've had a few games where it wasn't too crazy, but overall hitting got way easier for me. I like how I can see the ball with the retro camera so I'd rather not change it. What would you suggest I change to maybe strike out just a little more? I'm striking out only 4 or 5 times a game total here recently. Not sure what the average is, but that seems low for an avg. I've had games where it was only once or twice.

You've spent the last month spamming multiple threads with "Woe is me...I can't hit....". People offer advice then we find out you can't even bother to follow people's entire slider setups and even after we tell you, you don't bother listening.

You get it all figured out and can hit... and NOW you're complaining because you aren't happy with a STAT after a minimal sample size?

SMH....

(btw...the answer to your question is in your question....you're going to have to suck it up and do it)

[rlb1976]

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You've spent the last month spamming multiple threads with "Woe is me...I can't hit....". People offer advice then we find out you can't even bother to follow people's entire slider setups and even after we tell you, you don't bother listening.

You get it all figured out and can hit... and NOW you're complaining because you aren't happy with a STAT after a minimal sample size?

SMH....

(btw...the answer to your question is in your question....you're going to have to suck it up and do it)

Wow ok. This is over a 10 plus game period. The retro camera change is when it got easy. I don't understand what you're saying I need to suck it up and do? My original hitting issue seemed to be tied having guess pitch on. That's was 100% my fault. Also I thanked those who helped in both threads multiple times so sorry if my post bother you or were annoying. That was not my intent.

[Noiziv]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

You've spent the last month spamming multiple threads with "Woe is me...I can't hit....". People offer advice then we find out you can't even bother to follow people's entire slider setups and even after we tell you, you don't bother listening.

You get it all figured out and can hit... and NOW you're complaining because you aren't happy with a STAT after a minimal sample size?

SMH....

(btw...the answer to your question is in your question....you're going to have to suck it up and do it)

He might be asking a lot of questions and looking for help in multiple threads, but that is kind of what these threads are for. As much as I enjoy your sliders and the advice you give to people, I really feel like you’re blowing this one out of proportion.

[rlb1976]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

He might be asking a lot of questions and looking for help in multiple threads, but that is kind of what these threads are for. As much as I enjoy your sliders and the advice you give to people, I really feel like you’re blowing this one out of proportion.

I fully admit I asked a lot of questions in this thread and Armor's. I'm just trying to get the game as realistic as possible. Having not played since The Show 13 and jumping in on sliders made by guys who likely have played each year are better than I ever thought about being proved challenging. I greatly appreciate everyone who offered advice.

[forme95]

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I fully admit I asked a lot of questions in this thread and Armor's. I'm just trying to get the game as realistic as possible. Having not played since The Show 13 and jumping in on sliders made by guys who likely have played each year are better than I ever thought about being proved challenging. I greatly appreciate everyone who offered advice.

Just my .02. You will drive yourself crazy trying to make this game realistic/mimic real life. You would have to make continuous changes every game, every week and so forth. Both Armor and Josh's sliders are pure gameplay feel. Stats wont be perfect and you will see runs of big hits, strong pitching, cold streaks, hot streaks and etc. At the end of a played 162 games, you will see close to accurate comparable stats. They may not match real mlb, but nothing is outrageous and most to all are competitively compared. Play it as your universe. After all, you will make deals and do things that real life aren't doing. That's the glory of this game. Its one of the things I love. It allows you to play out your own senerios. Maybe a team would never get this player or that, but you work out a deal and can. That's what this game is about. Armors and Josh's sliders make the playing fun. Also, both sliders are base sets. They are set up for them and the level they play. Both are excellent starting points. For your gameplay and experience, you tweak to your personal preference. I would not stray far from either set numbers, but sometimes, that's all it takes to make it for your own enjoyment.

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

He might be asking a lot of questions and looking for help in multiple threads, but that is kind of what these threads are for.

I disagree. These threads are for the slider creators to SHARE their work with the community and to allow for people to discuss them and their experiences. We are not people's customer service. In my opinion, there is also an expectation (i.e. common courtesy) that people read, follow, and understand the premise behind the slider thread fully before engaging. That's a perfect segue into this....

This is over a 10 plus game period.

From the FAQ on the Opening Post.

Frequently Asked Questions
What is an appropriate sample size?
I consider a 'small sample size' for any sports games to be about 1/4 of a season. For baseball, that's about 40 games. Now, corroborating support (when assessing a change) can reduce the sample size significantly. But for 'run of the mill' assessments of a slider set's balance and effectiveness, I consider that 1/4 season to be the smallest acceptable sample size.

I haven't seen corroborating support, so I have to assume your sample size is too small.

The retro camera change is when it got easy.

Again....from the FAQ on the OP (refer specifically to the line I am bolding but it all applies)....

Frequently Asked Questions
I see (too many/too few) of (insert stat name). What slider can I adjust to fix that?
The most common (and annoying) question. Be objective and look at your own approach at how you play the game. It's often quite revealing and will give you ways to improve upon that stat(s) without changing a single slider. Sliders are all relative, so it can be tricky to isolate one particular area of the game without affecting 5 or 6 more.

You've done this....and you identified that the change in camera is when it "got easy". Or...how about this....maybe you're swinging at the first pitch you see in the zone instead of working counts....working counts leads to Ks. But IF you are swinging, and making a bunch of outs with weak contact...it isn't a slider issue, it isn't a camera issue...it's a "you need to git gud" issue. This may or may not be the case, I have no idea....but 90% of the time when people cry about not striking out enough, this is the issue.

The obvious solution (assuming you have a good approach at the plate - I consider that to be a minimum of 9-12 pitches in a 1-2-3 inning) is to change the camera. Now, if you don't want to change the camera. Then I direct you, AGAIN, to the opening post.....

Possible Set Modifications
2. To change your challenge but without changing game difficulty, adjust the timing slider to make it easier/harder for the user or CPU. One-click is enough to make a major difference.

3. If you need an extreme change in difficulty (harder or easier), just change the difficulty and use the current set - it should work beautifully regardless of level.

So, based on what is laid-out in the OP, I suggest the following:
1. Get more sample size.
2. Examine your own tendencies and be honest with yourself (believe me, I know this can be tough at times - I can help here, but I'd need to see you playing live or a full game video).
3. Based on the tendencies, adapt your play style. If no tendencies were found,
4. You can try changing your camera. If that doesn't work,
5. Lower the user timing slider to 4. If that doesn't work,
6. Increase difficulty to HOF with the OP. If that doesn't work,
7. Lower the user timing slider to 4. If that doesn't work,
8. Increase difficulty to Legend with the OP. If that doesn't work,
9. Lower the user timing slider to 4. If that doesn't work,....well, I have no idea.