JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Just wanted to say thx bro for a great set, these feel much better for me. I am seeing some strange errors on auto fielding, last night I was watching a CPU vs CPU game, grounder to first base that should have been routine, guy grabs ball and instead of tagging first base he runs at a joggers pace like he running to home plate.

Also couple groundouts to short ball was bobbled, outside of that, I'm seeing great results.

[Helios12787]

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Just wanted to say thx bro for a great set, these feel much better for me. I am seeing some strange errors on auto fielding, last night I was watching a CPU vs CPU game, grounder to first base that should have been routine, guy grabs ball and instead of tagging first base he runs at a joggers pace like he running to home plate.

Also couple groundouts to short ball was bobbled, outside of that, I'm seeing great results.

This has been a glitch that's been in the game for at least a couple of years that I know of. It's one of the most frustrating things to be forced to choose between hitting the base button and watching ur 1st basemen whos 3 feet away throw the ball to the pitcher who's not even halfway to the base OR tilt ur stick towards first and get stuck in that jog animation lol. I've never found a way to prevent it from happening unfortunately.

[rlb1976]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Hello again everyone. As a reminder I'm the guy who struggled hitting for a long time and made multiple posts looking for help in both Armor's and this thread. That's over with as I've been hitting extremely well using these sliders and having turned off guess pitch. I just wanted to say a few things about the suggested changes to human/CPU contact and the retro camera. I plugged in the changes and for the first time tried the retro camera (been using strike zone 3). Keep in mind this was just 1 game, but I absolutely raked. As I said I've been hitting well so maybe my teams just hot, but I scores 10 runs won 10-1 and had 3 home runs with Austin Meadows (something I had yet to do with anyone on this year's game). The camera had it feeling like I was playing slow pitch softball at times. I could really see the ball coming in and I was hitting the cover off the ball. After all my hitting woes previously it actually felt too easy. I'm gonna play a few more with the newly suggested changes to contact, but wow that felt easy. Moreso the camera I think. I just couldn't believe how well I was seeing the pitches.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

This has been a glitch that's been in the game for at least a couple of years that I know of. It's one of the most frustrating things to be forced to choose between hitting the base button and watching ur 1st basemen whos 3 feet away throw the ball to the pitcher who's not even halfway to the base OR tilt ur stick towards first and get stuck in that jog animation lol. I've never found a way to prevent it from happening unfortunately.

I finally figured out the cure to not getting stuck in the jog animation when you press/move the stick towards first base (vs pressing the circle button).

So on balls where you don’t need to flip to the pitcher the best technique to employ and to not get stuck in the unlimited jog (where he just runs past 1B) is after you move the stick towards first base, the moment he locks into the animation feather off the stick....even better release it quickly. He will not get locked into it.

What I discovered is, if you keep the stick pressed in that direction it will trigger another animation and both get “locked” up for lack of a better term.

Josh was watching a stream of mine when I discovered how to avoid this situation moving forward.

When I need to toss it to the pitcher I simply pre-load it and release the circle button.

The only real issue is when you get locked into the jog.

So do not use the circle button when you just want to take it yourself. Simply push the stick towards the bag, the animation triggers, release the stick.

Once you get the timing/feel it won’t happen anymore.

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

After getting several games in this weekend, I have decided to formally adopt the change to User/CPU contact at 6. I have updated the OP accordingly. I have also updated the 'Possible tweaks' section.

I considered the possible approach of using CPU contact/user control both at 5. People were commenting that they felt it is 'too easy' to paint the corners at 6 User pitch control and with CPU contact at 5 (i.e. the old OP). However, the reason the corners could be painted is because the CPU rarely would swing at early pitches, allowing people to get ahead in counts too frequently...building your pitcher's confidence on those 'easy strikes' and spiraling from there (evening it out at 5 does help their approach a bit, but the CPU is going to be more reliant on mistake pitches rather than seeing their good hitters stand out).

With user control and contact at 6, you CAN hit the corners, but unless you nail the black, the CPU will try to take those outside borderline pitches the other way while more frequently punishing "get me over" pitches early in the count. As a consequence, the hitter/pitcher battle feels more natural and "smarter" at 6/6 to me vs the more 'dice roll' oriented 5/5.

This has ramped up the variety yet another notch and I feel that this has now balanced-out that solid hits value at 4. It's essentially a 'smarter' All Star...you have to pitch smart and hit smart (particularly vs good players). This is the first time all year that I haven't had that 'will I need to go up to HOF?' feeling in the back of my head.

Hitting/pitching are now 100% locked-in for me.

[GoBlue81188]

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Just want to co-sign that change to contact. Game is really solid right now. All star may never give me quite the results/stats I’d hope to see, but there really is no substitute for how the game FEELS now. I’ve never played a game with better feel, a real credit to Josh for finding a really rewarding and balanced All Star set!

[Rmiok222]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Sorry for asking but what does “slider RNG” mean? I’ve seen this multiple places, have no clue what it means


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[JoshC1977]

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Sorry for asking but what does “slider RNG” mean? I’ve seen this multiple places, have no clue what it means

It's a term I coined myself.

Well....RNG is "Random Number Generator". So, 'Slider RNG' is basically where a person has stacked a slider one direction or another from default. They basically are allowing the slider setting to more heavily determine the outcome (i.e. dice rolls) than the player's ratings.

A great example that's easy to see is the pitch control slider. Drop that puppy down to like 2 and you're essentially allowing the slider to override the pitcher's control ratings (particularly on classic pitching). Will it make it harder to control your pitches and make it "harder"? Sure. But you're leaving that control result more up to the slider's setting (and thus the slider's modified 'dice roll'), thus 'diluting' the impact of the actual player rating.

I see this a TON with Madden in particular. People concoct slider sets that are all over the map to make the game "harder" or to "play right". But, they lose the nuance of the player rating variability by straying so far from default and it results in the common complaint of "every game feels the same" unless the setup is incredibly well-done.

I can't stand playing sports games where I have to wonder "Did that (weird and random event) happen because of the slider or was it because of ratings?". It's the big reason I keep things SO close to default.

(Hopefully that makes sense...if not, let me know....)

[tyler28]

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"I can't stand playing sports games where I have to wonder "Did that (weird and random event) happen because of the slider or was it because of ratings?". It's the big reason I keep things SO close to default."

This is also the definition of slideritis.

Once u feel this way about adjusting sliders its bad news. I learned this a while back the hard way w madden. The last few years ive been keeping games closer to default and having more of a "Josh" approach. Its really made games play they way they are intended. Sometimes adjusting sliders does more harm than good. Too many impacts on other issues.

MLB isnt so bad but madden as a whole. I'd rather just not deal with. I had to give up '19 pretty early on due to sliders and gameplay.

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[Rmiok222]

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It's a term I coined myself.

Well....RNG is "Random Number Generator". So, 'Slider RNG' is basically where a person has stacked a slider one direction or another from default. They basically are allowing the slider setting to more heavily determine the outcome (i.e. dice rolls) than the player's ratings.

A great example that's easy to see is the pitch control slider. Drop that puppy down to like 2 and you're essentially allowing the slider to override the pitcher's control ratings (particularly on classic pitching). Will it make it harder to control your pitches and make it "harder"? Sure. But you're leaving that control result more up to the slider's setting (and thus the slider's modified 'dice roll'), thus 'diluting' the impact of the actual player rating.

I see this a TON with Madden in particular. People concoct slider sets that are all over the map to make the game "harder" or to "play right". But, they lose the nuance of the player rating variability by straying so far from default and it results in the common complaint of "every game feels the same" unless the setup is incredibly well-done.

I can't stand playing sports games where I have to wonder "Did that (weird and random event) happen because of the slider or was it because of ratings?". It's the big reason I keep things SO close to default.

(Hopefully that makes sense...if not, let me know....)

That makes perfect sense. Thank you [emoji1317]


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[Rmiok222]

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"I can't stand playing sports games where I have to wonder "Did that (weird and random event) happen because of the slider or was it because of ratings?". It's the big reason I keep things SO close to default."

This is also the definition of slideritis.

Once u feel this way about adjusting sliders its bad news. I learned this a while back the hard way w madden. The last few years ive been keeping games closer to default and having more of a "Josh" approach. Its really made games play they way they are intended. Sometimes adjusting sliders does more harm than good. Too many impacts on other issues.

MLB isnt so bad but madden as a whole. I'd rather just not deal with. I had to give up '19 pretty early on due to sliders and gameplay.

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I luckily didn’t worry about that with madden last year because I used your set and it was fantastic lol


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[Rmiok222]

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Josh, is there any other tweaks you’d make to make HOF slightly harder? I’m knocking the cover off the ball after 16 games and I have timing down to 4 on HOF as well, and I don’t want to go to Legend at all.


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[BYU 14]

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Josh, is there any other tweaks you’d make to make HOF slightly harder? I’m knocking the cover off the ball after 16 games and I have timing down to 4 on HOF as well, and I don’t want to go to Legend at all.


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If you are on HOF I would up pitch speed and drop CPU control a notch

[JoshC1977]

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Josh, is there any other tweaks you’d make to make HOF slightly harder? I’m knocking the cover off the ball after 16 games and I have timing down to 4 on HOF as well, and I don’t want to go to Legend at all.


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I agree with BYU on pitch speed but lowering control will make it easier.

The timing slider is the safest way to increase challenge without jacking things up.

But remember the beauty of directional hitting is that you can go on a tear for a couple of weeks and then go cold.


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[Rmiok222]

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I saw you have pitch control at 6 for both now. I’m going to try it. Curious to see how that will impact walks! Hopefully I can play tomorrow. I work till 11 today [emoji1304]


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