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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
First and foremost, as always, I’m using the exact OP.
Just when I start second guessing this game, I have an unbelievable game. I wasn’t second guessing how fun it was, I was second guessing if I needed to bump the CPU offense and maybe even mine. Everyone preaches sample size and it’s true. This game is unbelievable and even better on AS because you don’t have to constantly be perfect to get good results. I am getting so many different outcomes. Lots of ebbs and flows already, and I’m only about (15) games in, very exciting.
I had just came off a (3) game sweep @ SF where I win by a combined score of (8-2). I then lost my next two games by a combined score of (5-8) to the white Sox. As you can see, not much offense to speak of. During those (5) games I had (3) HR and the CPU had (0). This was a big difference from the first (8) games of the year. I had (10) HR in those games, and allowed (11) to the CPU.
Trying to avoid being swept by the White Sox in game (3) of the series, I had an incredible comeback. I couldn’t get anything going early on and only had (2) runs coming into the 8th. After a walk, I pinch hit for Yandy Diaz with Ji-Man Choi because the White Sox brought in a righty (Herrera) to face Diaz. Choi blasted a 2-R, no doubt bomb, and cut the lead to (7-4). I then proceeded to score (4) more runs in the top of the 9th off the White Sox closer, Nate Jones. The (4) runs were highlighted by a 3-R HR by Joey Wendle that chased Jones from the game. It was Wendle's first HR of the season, and his fifth hit of the game. I was able to hold off Chicago in the bottom half of the 9th, securing the (8-7) victory, and avoiding the sweep. Wendell, Moncada and Alonso all had unreal games in this one. I’m now (7-6) on the season.
There were (7) HR combined between the CPU (5) and Me (2), after having only (3) combined for the previous (5) games. I’ve now hit (13) HR and am averaging exactly (1) HR per game. Meanwhile I've given up (16) HR which is (1.2) per game.
Still can’t get over how good this last game was.Comment
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
Josh, how are steals looking for you? This is literally the only part of the game that has me questioning the OP at all, everything else has been amazing. It seems like I get thrown out about 50% of the time, while the Rays IRL are only getting thrown out about 20% of the time. Meanwhile most years the best catchers will throw out about 35-40% of base stealers. Right now, with Mike Zunino (64 arm strength and 78 accuracy), I'm throwing out well over 50% of all base stealers. With an average arm like Zunino's, that should be more like 25%, maybe 30% at the very most. I definitely don't have a huge sample size as I've only attempted about 15 steals so far and the CPU probably around the same. Just curious if you were seeing similar things and maybe thinking about bumping BR Steal Ability to 6?Comment
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
(I'm having the opposite issues in similarly miniscule sample sizes...I can't throw out a runner to save my life...)
I've been doing stat comparisons between 2018 and 1987 as I am beginning to look at possible adjustments for the 87 roster. Major League average for stolen base success last year was right around 70%.
Stolen bases are about the timing of the steal, the pitch location/velo, the luck of the throw, the skill of the runner, how well the pitcher holds the runner, etc.. There are just too many variables to count.
My advice is this, don't let the numbers dictate if a change is warranted. Even a full season of data for 1 team isn't enough (the variance from top to bottom was 20% - from 60% to 80% success rates). We're also talking about such small total team numbers, that merely changing a handful of outcomes can change the percentages significantly on a per-team basis.
This is what I would say, do the successes/non-successes pass the 'smell test' for you? If you don't think they do, then by all means bump it up (Armor, for one, consistently bumps this up a point every year). If things make sense but the numbers haven't added up (yet), then keep pressing forward.Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.Comment
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
These two games truly show how diverse results can be on AS. These games were played back to back. As you can see, they were both totally different.Comment
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
Keeping this simple: OP updated to change timing sliders back to default following 1.09 release.
(note: I haven't tested yet, but I strongly suspect it will play the same as 4 did pre-patch)
I'll be testing straight AS default to see how that plays too....Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.Comment
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
Josh-In your opinion has the post patch timing adjustment reduced cpu offense potency? I’ve notice it on the human side and have moved all human hitting sliders back to default.
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
So I got in two games last night with the patch (Reds franchise) and the timing slider adjustment back to default. I had my first 1-0 game since 19 came out (a loss to the Pirates of course) and a 7-2 loss to Miami. I was getting enough hits, just not converting with RISP. The 1-0 game was a beauty between Chris Archer and my newly signed FA Ervin Santana - both teams had chances, but some clutch pitching and defensive plays kept the runs off the board. The 7-2 loss to Miami...I lost my focus, wasn't in a good rhythm with my pitch selection and I did a poor job shrinking the zone while hitting...I have to be better than that.
The timing slider adjustment back to default seemed to work very well in concert with the patch. Very good hit variety, it was tough to square up pitches. I went B2B games without hitting a HR for the first time on 19....something that also makes me happy.
OK..so Gman, you posted this as I was writing this up, so I am going to respond here. Now, I did play a bit on pure default and it was back to line-drive, line-drive, line-drive - which I don't want to see (at all).
We already have the timing back to default in the OP and that seems to be working well. That 1-0 game, both teams had 4 hits (game had a strong wind blowing-in too). The second game, Miami had 14 hits and my Votto-less Reds had 11. So, definitely two different games. But yeah, I know what you're getting at; I want to see though how the next 3-4 games go for me. (I will say that I had a very difficult time driving the ball, but my discipline was crappy last night too...)
That said, I am VERY dis-inclined to change the solid hits back to default. If I were to make a change, it would be reverting the pitch control back to default. That pitch control slider is a direct counter to the hitting, so that offset in favor of the pitcher may be causing an imbalance. It very well could be that the very subtle tweak SDS made to timing is enough to allow for default pitch control to work without seeing that offensive explosion.
But, I'm not ready to quite go down that road just yet. I'd really like to get feedback on the OP from others and also get some more data points from my own playing.
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A different topic....
Now, I had just begun experimenting before the patch with SP Stamina. Now, the issue I have here (and others have touched on) is that pitch counts (user and CPU) are seemingly too low. The counts in of themselves don't bug me, but when I see an 80 stamina pitcher in August (who is pitching effectively) begin to lose effectiveness around pitch 65-70, I'm not a fan. The SP "dies" around pitch 80-85 (maybe 90), the lower rated LRPs/MRPs come in, are more likely to get shelled and get badly over-worked. Lowering Manager Hook doesn't really address the core issue either, because even if it keeps the SP from getting pulled as early, he's a SP running on fumes who's still in the game.
So what I am looking to do is essentially add about 10 pitches or so to the mix. That 80 stamina guy (on a good start) then begins to slow-down around pitch 75-80 and "die" around pitch 90-95 (maybe 100). That's a much bigger change than it sounds, because more often than not, that should get him through the 6th inning; helping to bypass the MRPs a bit more often in favor of the generally more effective SU men.
I have been working with SP Stamina at 6 both pre and post patch and it's looked good in limited time. My game vs Archer last night (he had an 83 in-game stamina rating), he got into the 7th and exited the game with a 1-0 score but a couple runners on (around 95 pitches). He had a little bit more in the tank (command fading though) and if he had a clean 7th, probably would've hit around 100-105 pitches. My game vs Miami (Caleb Smith who had an awful 65ish stamina rating)...he got through ~70-75 pitches before getting in trouble and getting pulled (I don't remember the exact scenario, but remember thinking that the pull made sense). The user pitchers looked good too, Santana (85 stamina) hit 100 pitches before I had to pull him (Castillo got beat-up a bit and was pulled early). I've had a few other games in the past couple of days, but the two from last night are fresh in my mind.
My gut says SP Stamina at 6 is going to give us what we need. It's not fully tested yet, but I am updating the OP with it to get some feedback.Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.Comment
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
Just to piggyback on your SP stamina comments: the issue is that “getting tired” really means he’s about dead in terms of on field product, and it happens about 10 pitches before I think it should
I absolutely agree with your thought process. It would also allow some of the work horse guys to maybe hit 110-120 pitches, which i have yet to see User or CPU in 19. I know modern baseball isn’t suited to that pitch count, but it does happen from time to time.Twitch: Goblue81188Comment
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
*peeks head into Josh's thread*
FWIW, this set works brilliantly with Quick Counts. Considerably better than any other set so far, which is weird because it's 100% unintentional.
In fact I've been switching off every other game without changing anything at all ..
*Runs back to his dork cave*
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Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders
So far I've played one game post patch. I am going with exact sliders as pre patch except timing at 5 now for both. I haven't tried Starter Stamina at 6 yet but I'm really liking the amount of offense I'm getting. I'm afraid if I do that, that will nerf offense too much and we will very rarely see MR. I've also noticed that if you or the CPU have a pitcher with higher confidence they do much better in the later innings with higher pitch counts. I don't mind hitting a guy around at pitch 80 if I get him there in the 5th. That means I've been working him good all game, and he is going to be alot less effective than a guy who gets to 80 pitches in the 7th. I think that works really well at 5, but that's just my two cents.
First game post patch was a 5-3 L to the Red Sox. They had 12 hits, while the Rays (me) had 9 hits. Hit variety felt just like it did pre patch. I struck out 8 times which was nice, and the CPU struck out a whopping 14 times. That number isn't outrageous but I'm definitely going to keep my eye on it. I had 4 doubles, while the CPU had two doubles and one of the longest HR I've seen this year. Jackie Bradley Jr. hit a majestic shot off of Ryne Stanek who had 25K in 15IP coming into this game. I overthrew a 4SFB on a 1-2 count and JBJ hit it off the batter's eye in dead center.Comment
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