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  • Rmiok222
    MVP
    • Nov 2015
    • 3129

    #616
    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

    Originally posted by TopSide83
    Well I played two games with the newest set. Not sure if you’d like to know how I felt about them. Sometimes it’s more about the feel than the statistical outcome early on for me with a slider set.


    Why wouldn’t josh like to know how you felt about his sliders?


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    • jcar0725
      "ADAPT OR DIE"
      • Aug 2010
      • 3819

      #617
      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

      Originally posted by bcruise
      The bolded is the answer to your question. The bar only indicates the progress to the next half-level step.
      I thought so, thank you.
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      • JoshC1977
        All Star
        • Dec 2010
        • 11564

        #618
        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

        Originally posted by TopSide83
        Well I played two games with the newest set. Not sure if you’d like to know how I felt about them. Sometimes it’s more about the feel than the statistical outcome early on for me with a slider set.
        We're very much in an Alpha phase, so sure, fire away.

        Just provide specifics versus generalized comments.
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        • dubplate
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          • Dec 2002
          • 3781

          #619
          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

          Only one game so far, but it was definitely on the other end of the spectrum of my previous low scoring games, perhaps too much.

          As the Mariners at home I lost to the Angels 7-10.

          The Angels hit 3 homers and 3 doubles with 16 hits.

          Mariners hit 4 homers (3 in one inning) and 2 doubles with 12 hits.

          We shall see how these play over the course of a few games.

          Game was played on AS+ for both pitching and batting. I use pulse pitching since I can’t stand classic pitching.
          Last edited by dubplate; 05-26-2021, 11:18 PM.

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          • bryanm1982
            MVP
            • Nov 2016
            • 3785

            #620
            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

            I played the first game with the Cubs in my franchise using the Brinskie rosters. I won the game 5-4. The pirates jumped to a 3-0 lead against Hendricks after giving up 2HR but he settled in and went 6 IP allowing 3 runs. Cubs came back to tie it at 3 with a couple singles and a sac fly. Cubs took the lead in the 5th and scored a important insurance run in the 7th to win 5-4. The CPU hit 3 HR with 9 hits. Cubs had 9 hits with 8 singles.

            It was nice knowing that I can score some runs and come back from a 3-0 deficit. Before, that 3-0 seemed like 15-0. I was afraid of their offense for the first time in a while after giving up the 2 homers in the 2nd inning.
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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #621
              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

              There has been some solid feedback; I've been dabbling strictly on AS as if we can get a solid base on that difficulty, then it should scale to AS+.

              Right now, I'm very iffy on contact being the long-term answer. Even on AS, the foul ball frequency went up a fair bit and some of offensive numbers on AS+ are not quite what I want to see. We could bump down FF, but rule number 1 of good slider design says that "you don't make another change to fix something you broke - you revert and try something different".

              I think we're going to have to make a more subtle change and just roll with it.
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              • Doyoueven85
                Rookie
                • Aug 2020
                • 316

                #622
                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                There has been some solid feedback; I've been dabbling strictly on AS as if we can get a solid base on that difficulty, then it should scale to AS+.

                Right now, I'm very iffy on contact being the long-term answer. Even on AS, the foul ball frequency went up a fair bit and some of offensive numbers on AS+ are not quite what I want to see. We could bump down FF, but rule number 1 of good slider design says that "you don't make another change to fix something you broke - you revert and try something different".

                I think we're going to have to make a more subtle change and just roll with it.
                Have you thought about upping timing and not contact?

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                • Rmiok222
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 3129

                  #623
                  JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                  Originally posted by Doyoueven85
                  Have you thought about upping timing and not contact?


                  I’m sure josh would want to try himself, but on all star plus I put every cpu slider at 5 except for cpu timing, I put that at 6, and I threw a one hitter with Dylan Bundy lol


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                  • JoshC1977
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 11564

                    #624
                    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                    Originally posted by Doyoueven85
                    Have you thought about upping timing and not contact?
                    That's the only remaining logical solution.

                    It's still a question of which permutation to pursue for the remaining settings (i.e. my "typical" setup or something a touch different).
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                    • Rmiok222
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 3129

                      #625
                      JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                      Originally posted by JoshC1977
                      That's the only remaining logical solution.



                      It's still a question of which permutation to pursue for the remaining settings (i.e. my "typical" setup or something a touch different).


                      On all star plus I had it on 6 and it felt honestly about the same. I wonder if putting cpu timing on 7 is pushing it. Putting any hitting slider on 7 seems so ridiculous to me but I don’t know at this point.


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                      • bryanm1982
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                        • Nov 2016
                        • 3785

                        #626
                        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                        But I guess what is worse at this point? Contact at 6 and FF at 4 or timing at 7?
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                        • Rmiok222
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                          #627
                          JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                          Originally posted by bryanm1982
                          But I guess what is worse at this point? Contact at 6 and FF at 4 or timing at 7?


                          That’s so true lol. I work a ton over the weekend past Memorial Day but I’ll be testing 7 myself. I hate how HOF feels for some reason so that’s a no go.

                          I wish I was one of those people that could just play a game.

                          I hate myself 🤣


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                          • jcar0725
                            "ADAPT OR DIE"
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3819

                            #628
                            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                            Originally posted by Rmiok222
                            That’s so true lol. I work a ton over the weekend past Memorial Day but I’ll be testing 7 myself. I hate how HOF feels for some reason so that’s a no go.

                            I wish I was one of those people that could just play a game.

                            I hate myself 🤣


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                            So far......Josh's set logic has given me better results on the pitching side. Small sample size I just played one game at lunch today, but the CPU put up 6 on me with my average SP. It's still playing a little wonky but the result was at least a little more realistic.
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                            • JoshC1977
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 11564

                              #629
                              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                              Originally posted by Rmiok222
                              On all star plus I had it on 6 and it felt honestly about the same. I wonder if putting cpu timing on 7 is pushing it. Putting any hitting slider on 7 seems so ridiculous to me but I don’t know at this point.
                              Were your user/CPU sliders aligned? I've seen (in the past) situations where you don't get the "full effect" if you only adjust one of the two sliders.
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                              • bryanm1982
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 3785

                                #630
                                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                                The one game I played on these felt good. I'm using the Cubs so I don't expect to have an over-dominant pitching staff. I use quick counts so I didn't notice the foul balls. The CPU had 9 hits and struck out 7 times. It was nice to see the CPU get more than 5-6 hits. So I'm excited to play more games with it to see if it will work for me.
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