Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

[Rmiok222]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

I haven't personally tried these (I've been testing with default legend sliders as I get ready for the 1984 roster to drop tomorrow).



I think your slider adjustments are probably on point.



My experience:



Batting avg's are a tad low, so contact to 6 prob fixes that.



Cpu struggles to hit HR's or really any XBH's, so cpu power to 6 prob fixes that.



User swing and miss is extremely high (some of that is user input, but you can tell that some of it is the difficulty level, so user timing to 6 prob fixes that.



80 stamina pitchers have zero stamina left right around 85 pitches, so bumping SP stam to 6 def fixes that, and gives them a chance to get to 100 pitches.



I see cpu pitchers struggling to get over 60% overall strikes and 1st pitch strikes, so I don't necessarily see moving strike frequency down to 4 a good thing (at least for me). If you are trying to get the cpu pitcher to not be so perfect, I think control may be the one to move to 4.



IMO, Pitch speed is user preference (except at All Star difficulty). Personally, I struggle with high velo guys at default.



Errors have been hard to dial in. I don't want to avg 3 per game, and I am leery that straying off default for errors might mess things up under the hood or make fielding animations look wonky. Part of the issue with errors (and it's plagued this series for years) is they don't score errors properly.



Base running steal ability is something I have seen a lot of people struggle with. Here's my 2 cents. #1, player attributes matter and so many of them have really low SB ability attributes, so even if they are fast, they are going to get thrown out too often. #2 might be placebo, but I don't prompt the steal UNTIL the pitcher is ready to deliver the pitch....this seems to help with those quicksand jumps we all hate.



Injuries at 7 def works, but because of only 93 man rosters, I keep it at 6 and IMO it's important to move that sim slider to 1 or 2 when simming minor league games.



Overall, I like what you have done here, and after a decent enough sample size at default Legend, I think I am going to give these a spin.



Thanks for putting these together!



Side note: I have seen the cpu offense be most balanced on the all star difficulty level (default sliders). However, I had to max the pitch speed sliders to keep things balanced offensively on my end.



Part of me thinks, (much like the NHL series), that the higher the difficulty level, the less "sim" the experience is.



All Star is doable, but max pitch speeds is a must.



Dowie

Thanks! Yeah I have quite a big sample size at this point. I’m about 110 games into my franchise. These are locked in 100%.


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[Coll1997]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

Is anyone else’s pitchers getting absolutely destroyed with this set? I’m desperately looking for a good set to start a franchise with. This one has potential but the opponents bats are killing me.

[jcar0725]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

Is anyone else’s pitchers getting absolutely destroyed with this set? I’m desperately looking for a good set to start a franchise with. This one has potential but the opponents bats are killing me.

What's your sample size? Trust me my first few games using classic/legend pitching, I got destroyed. But then it settles down after that, plus it forced me to pitch much smarter and more carefully. It definitely works well.

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[MattyIce]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

Sample size definitely plays a role. My first week I was getting shelled and I believe it was a mix of poor location and pitch selection. I don't use the ball marker so it was difficult to judge location at first. I would also say you should be mixing up your effort from pitch to pitch. Pitching is all about mixing up location and speeds, even if that means taking a few mph off a FB or reaching back for a little extra sometimes.

[jcar0725]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

Sample size definitely plays a role. My first week I was getting shelled and I believe it was a mix of poor location and pitch selection. I don't use the ball marker so it was difficult to judge location at first. I would also say you should be mixing up your effort from pitch to pitch. Pitching is all about mixing up location and speeds, even if that means taking a few mph off a FB or reaching back for a little extra sometimes.

I'll also just add what I've learned pitching with this set;

1) pitcher attributes matter big time, you have to be real careful using a low rated pitcher and really try to paint corners, walks are better than HRs.

2) i can sense when the CPU offense is about to get on a roll and I have to start adjusting how I pitch, throw more pitches out of the strike zone, and not be afraid to walk guys.

[Rmiok222]

Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

I'll also just add what I've learned pitching with this set;



1) pitcher attributes matter big time, you have to be real careful using a low rated pitcher and really try to paint corners, walks are better than HRs.



2) i can sense when the CPU offense is about to get on a roll and I have to start adjusting how I pitch, throw more pitches out of the strike zone, and not be afraid to walk guys.

You’re spot on. Also, even tho I personally use clean screen I try and pay attention to my pitchers confidence in his pitches. If he can not throw the curve where I want it for example I trash the pitch for the whole game. Won’t even throw it unless it’s the 9 hole guy or something and I’m trying to get a feel for it.


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[Rmiok222]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

Is anyone else’s pitchers getting absolutely destroyed with this set? I’m desperately looking for a good set to start a franchise with. This one has potential but the opponents bats are killing me.

Trust me you’ll get shelled from time to time just like in real life. I threw a perfect game this year with 70 rated Gavin Williams. Bieber has an ERA around 2.50. As a whole my team ERA right now is floating around 3.70 which I am extremely happy with.

I’m around 115 games into my season. I sit in 2nd in the AL central and 1st in the Wild Card race. Just keep plugging away and you’ll get realistic results. You’ll have your ups and downs. I just came off a 7 game winning streak and also at one point in the season I lost 15 out of 20 games. It’s honestly been amazing. I love this game.


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[Cjhurla]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

So I’m 52 and been playing the show since it’s inception. Anyways I am a very average talent at playing the show. I’m horrible at hitting and play at HOF. However I pitch at Legend and cannot be touched by the AI, even with pitchers like Kyle Davies. I use default legend and am looking at your sliders to figure out how to fix this. I use meter which to me is a middle ground. Anyways any ideas? Most of my games with the cubs are like 2-1 or 3-2 and never any more runs than 3 or 4. Any help would be awesome!

[Rmiok222]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

So I’m 52 and been playing the show since it’s inception. Anyways I am a very average talent at playing the show. I’m horrible at hitting and play at HOF. However I pitch at Legend and cannot be touched by the AI, even with pitchers like Kyle Davies. I use default legend and am looking at your sliders to figure out how to fix this. I use meter which to me is a middle ground. Anyways any ideas? Most of my games with the cubs are like 2-1 or 3-2 and never any more runs than 3 or 4. Any help would be awesome!

Honestly my first piece of advice would be to get away from meter and try classic pitching. Meter is too easy to time up after you use it for so long.


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[Cjhurla]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

Thanks. But isn’t with classic there isn’t much influence by the user. I do like some influence on my pitches. Not sure just asking

[TripleCrown]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

first, I’m using your sliders and they’re just spot on. Nothing to complain about except one thing that is bothering me with The show in general, not your slider set.

It is Arm Strength vs Runner Speed.

I did a lot of testing, timing IRL runners from home to 2nd, checked MLB savant for home to first speed. Runner speed at 5 seems ok.

But outfielders are throwing way too many cannon throws than what I see in IRL. Same with infielders. Even average arms are too strong to my liking. So strong we don’t see much difference between an average vs good vs strong arm.

I see also too many close play on bases where usually even an average runner will just jog to the base. By example a Fly Out to deep center with a guy on second. Most of the time the runner on 2nd will reach 3rd quite easily. In the game it’s a challenge.

What’s your take on this ? Do you feel fielders arms are a bit too strong at default 5 ?

[Rmiok222]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

first, I’m using your sliders and they’re just spot on. Nothing to complain about except one thing that is bothering me with The show in general, not your slider set.

It is Arm Strength vs Runner Speed.

I did a lot of testing, timing IRL runners from home to 2nd, checked MLB savant for home to first speed. Runner speed at 5 seems ok.

But outfielders are throwing way too many cannon throws than what I see in IRL. Same with infielders. Even average arms are too strong to my liking. So strong we don’t see much difference between an average vs good vs strong arm.

I see also too many close play on bases where usually even an average runner will just jog to the base. By example a Fly Out to deep center with a guy on second. Most of the time the runner on 2nd will reach 3rd quite easily. In the game it’s a challenge.

What’s your take on this ? Do you feel fielders arms are a bit too strong at default 5 ?

Glad you like the set for the most part I’m having a blast.

As far as arm strength the only time I gun anybody down is with Oscar Gonzalez but he has 99 arm strength. I do agree though it does seem a bit strong from time to time. I’ve just tried to leave as many sliders at 5 as I could and that is just one of the sliders I didn’t want to go down the rabbit hole in.


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[jcar0725]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

Thanks. But isn’t with classic there isn’t much influence by the user. I do like some influence on my pitches. Not sure just asking

Classic pitching is dependent on the pitcher's attributes, and whether or not he's having a good or a bad game that day.

You have influence, but only how you call the game. You can't really make a bad pitcher better than he really is by using a meter, for example.

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[Coll1997]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

How is everyone using directional hitting? Is it smart to put the arrows in certain directions other than just strategically wanting a ball to go to certain part of the field? Have played multiple games in a row with 0 extra base hits. Wondering if it’s something I’m not doing right.

[dowie]

Re: Rmiok222 MLBTS 23 Legend Sliders

How is everyone using directional hitting? Is it smart to put the arrows in certain directions other than just strategically wanting a ball to go to certain part of the field? Have played multiple games in a row with 0 extra base hits. Wondering if it’s something I’m not doing right.

Armor’s 20 thread has a nice write up on directional hitting (page 1).

Personally, I try to “influence” my swing typically only when runners are on base and the situation calls for it…SF situation, hit behind the runner etc.

I NEVER use the power swing, but def use the contact swing (mostly on 2 strike counts when I need to try and move a runner).

Dowie