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  • mdiggitydawg
    Rookie
    • Jan 2008
    • 475

    #391
    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    Testing

    CPU/HUM Starter Stamina at 6

    CPU Hook at 3 (back to 5 when cpu goes to the pen).


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    Thanks for testing this out...I've been testing as well as I have seen starters getting pulled in the 4th...they may be down 3 or 4 runs, but I still think the rope is too tight... One question, in a 3 game series, are you seeing the CPU trot out the relievers in the same way every game? I've faced the same three guys on the Marlins 3 days in a row, which would never happen....not sure there is a way to make the CPU work the bullpen better or not.

    Oh and Soto, kind of sucking in my Mets Chise as well. lol!

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    • I_Am_Freitas
      Rookie
      • Oct 2011
      • 70

      #392
      Originally posted by Burgess

      Any shame in lowering pitch speed to 6/6? My 61 year old eyes are struggling to catch up to low 90’s fastballs at 7/7, even when I am sitting on them. I have tried 6/6 in a few practice games and I definitely hit better in terms of not always being late on fastballs - but then I feel guilty for lowering pitch speed to make things a bit easier
      Not sure if it’ll help at all but this hitting approach that’s helped me, not only both in The Show but in real life baseball…if it’s high, let if fly! If it’s low, let it go!
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      • TopSide83
        MVP
        • Sep 2016
        • 1400

        #393
        Armor I missed it.. what did you give up to get Alcantara from the Marlins?

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21786

          #394
          Originally posted by TopSide83
          Armor I missed it.. what did you give up to get Alcantara from the Marlins?
          Spencer Jones and Oswald Cabrera.

          Two of my highest rated prospects.
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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21786

            #395
            Update to the CPU hook slider........it simply makes no difference with the new coding for pulling starters.

            Guys are gonna get pulled quicker than what many think is appropriate. I think a lot of it has context......but there are some I simply do not like. But that's a product of the modern game.

            I am going to test more with starter stamina as that has more of an affect than the hook slider which feels neutered now.
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            • Burgess
              MVP
              • Oct 2015
              • 1015

              #396
              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              Update to the CPU hook slider........it simply makes no difference with the new coding for pulling starters.

              Guys are gonna get pulled quicker than what many think is appropriate. I think a lot of it has context......but there are some I simply do not like. But that's a product of the modern game.

              I am going to test more with starter stamina as that has more of an affect than the hook slider which feels neutered now.
              FWIW I like the stamina at 6, but an indifferent in terms of the hook. Maybe stamina at 6 and hook back to 5?
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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21786

                #397
                Originally posted by Burgess

                FWIW I like the stamina at 6, but an indifferent in terms of the hook. Maybe stamina at 6 and hook back to 5?
                That’s exactly what I did.

                stamina 6
                hook 5

                Hook slider is neutered makes no difference.
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                • The Gamer
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 810

                  #398
                  FWIW this is what I'm seeing -

                  As I play exhibition games or allow cpu vs cpu games while testing my 1998 roster edit, I've had the CPU hook slider set to 1. Along with strike frequency at 4 but everything else is set to the current version of this slider set. While it feels to me that the game is hard coded for pitchers to go 3 times through the lineup, I have seen the pitchers getting a pitch count in the high 90s and over 100. I have seen a good variety of innings pitched as well. I've seen cpu pitchers with over 100 pitches pulled in the 6th but also guys at 85 lasting through the 8th. I dont recall seeing many CGs but I have seen guys start the 9th but get pulled at the slightest hint of trouble at that point.

                  For full disclosure, as I'm editing the pitcher attributes in this set, I have increased each individual pitchers stamina rating by +5 over what this rosters RBU rating original setting.

                  There does seem to be a variety in pitch counts and IPs in my testing

                  Just wanted to give my two cents on what I'm seeing as I go along.

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                  Last edited by The Gamer; 06-04-2025, 11:05 AM.
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                  • Armor and Sword
                    The Lama
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 21786

                    #399
                    Originally posted by The Gamer
                    FWIW this is what I'm seeing -

                    As I play exhibition games or allow cpu vs cpu games while testing my 1998 roster edit, I've had the CPU hook slider set to 1. Along with strike frequency at 4 but everything else is set to the current version of this slider set. While it feels to me that the game is hard coded for pitchers to go 3 times through the lineup, I have seen the pitchers getting a pitch count in the high 90s and over 100. I have seen a good variety of innings pitched as well. I've seen cpu pitchers with over 100 pitches pulled in the 6th but also guys at 85 lasting through the 8th. I dont recall seeing many CGs but I have seen guys start the 9th but get pulled at the slightest hint of trouble at that point.

                    For full disclosure, as I'm editing the pitcher attributes in this set, I have increased each individual pitchers stamina rating by +5 over what this rosters RBU rating original setting.

                    There does seem to be a variety in pitch counts and IPs in my testing

                    Just wanted to give my two cents on what I'm seeing as I go along.

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                    Classic rosters are a different animal. We are talking modern baseball with my comments.

                    Glad to see rosters edits in combination with a higher stamina slider setting and lower hook setting is working well. Very encouraging news there Gamer.

                    Can't wait till your 1998 is ready to roll along with Jim Meyers 1985.
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                    • The Gamer
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 810

                      #400
                      Yeah I think with modern rosters they have hard coded the 3x through the lineup philosophy, so it's going to take an extreme adjustment to the hook slider to compensate for that coding.

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                      • YDS555
                        Just started!
                        • May 2025
                        • 3

                        #401
                        Really liked these settings, but I'm starting to believe all these settings don't even matter in the end. The game already decided who's going to win before the game has started. This game feels so scripted, it's not even funny anymore.

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                      • QN_52
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 333

                        #402
                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword

                        That’s exactly what I did.

                        stamina 6
                        hook 5

                        Hook slider is neutered makes no difference.
                        Starter stamina now at 6?
                        reliever stamina stays at 5?
                        update to OP coming?

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                        • TopSide83
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 1400

                          #403
                          Originally posted by YDS555
                          Really liked these settings, but I'm starting to believe all these settings don't even matter in the end. The game already decided who's going to win before the game has started. This game feels so scripted, it's not even funny anymore.
                          How do you know who they decided is going to win?

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                            Because anytime he loses, he knows it's scripted.
                        • YDS555
                          Just started!
                          • May 2025
                          • 3

                          #404
                          Originally posted by TopSide83

                          How do you know who they decided is going to win?
                          Because the CPU starts to hit everything from the 8th inning and up. Even if the whole team is ****, they will find a way to score against you when you are nearing the end. It happens so many times, just pay attention to it. Players with 0-4 suddenly hit a 2B to start the AB off, suddenly they know how to hit a HR on a ball that's so far away from the zone that it's almost a wild pitch. Suddenly your perfect hits become weak pop ups or line-outs. If the game is close within 3 runs, the CPU will use anything that it has in it's arsenal to make you lose.
                          Currently I'm 9-10 in my Franchise, 6 of those 10 losses were exactly like that.
                          But most SDS loverboys will never see it that way, they are too far up SDS's ***....

                          I do have to say that beside the stufff that I said about the game, Armor and Swords settings are the best of them all for sure.
                          Last edited by YDS555; 06-09-2025, 12:06 PM.

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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21786

                            #405
                            Originally posted by YDS555

                            Because the CPU starts to hit everything from the 8th inning and up. Even if the whole team is ****, they will find a way to score against you when you are nearing the end. It happens so many times, just pay attention to it. Players with 0-4 suddenly hit a 2B to start the AB off, suddenly they know how to hit a HR on a ball that's so far away from the zone that it's almost a wild pitch. Suddenly your perfect hits become weak pop ups or line-outs. If the game is close within 3 runs, the CPU will use anything that it has in it's arsenal to make you lose.
                            Currently I'm 9-10 in my Franchise, 6 of those 10 losses were exactly like that.
                            But most SDS loverboys will never see it that way, they are too far up SDS's ***....

                            I do have to say that Armor and Swords settings are the best of them all for sure.
                            Dude take it somewhere else......trolling this thread will get you banned in a NY minute.

                            Take this as a warning and move the heck on.
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