***The Official OOTP Thread***

[BucksInSix]

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Well it fully downloaded at 1030 cst and I started playing around 1045. Next think I knew it was past midnight! This game is gonna be dangerous...


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[Schreck]

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Well it fully downloaded at 1030 cst and I started playing around 1045. Next think I knew it was past midnight! This game is gonna be dangerous...

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It is dangerous. If you are a baseball person, or even just a strategy game fan, it is really easy to get sucked in. I just got it for the first time at the start of the year, and am in my 7th season building a Yankee monster.

I lucked out a few seasons ago when Kershaw came on the market, but was coming off a 12 month labrum tear. His ratings were still up, so I took the chance and signed him for a below market $19-21 million a year over like 5 years I think. As soon as he got back, he was vintage Kershaw and led me to a few titles, won a few Cy's (even an MVP) that I never would have gotten without him.

Now I'm in the offseason going into his age 36 season, with him under contract for 2 more years now at $24 and $26 million. His last season was his best yet, he won the Triple Crown with lowest ERA, most wins, most K's. Was 2nd in MVP vote and won all his playoff games, then came into game 7 of the World Series on short rest and got me 4 innings of relief to keep me in the game after a horrible start from my #2, which allowed us to come back and make up a 4 run deficit to tie in the 9th, then win with a walkoff in the 10th after a single (subbed in my speed utility infielder), hit and run that got my guy to 3rd, and a sac fly to win.

All that to say, it was amazing, and now I love Kershaw. Problem is he is old, expensive, and now his injury status is showing as 'fragile', so he is much more likely to get injured going forward. I had to look into trades, and the Rangers have a ton of salary space, and are willing to trade 5 good pitching prospects for him straight up. Do I roll the dice and hope Kershaw stays healthy and doesn't suddenly drop off a cliff? Or do I roll the dice and hope at least one of the stud prospects pans out to be an above average pitcher, along with another few that should get to be 3's or 4's for me? Plus how much do I factor loyalty to the guy that is team captain and made us champs?

I've literally had that trade window open for 5 days wavering on taking it or not, and thinking about it throughout my day. Damn game is dangerous man.

[BucksInSix]

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It is dangerous. If you are a baseball person, or even just a strategy game fan, it is really easy to get sucked in. I just got it for the first time at the start of the year, and am in my 7th season building a Yankee monster.



I lucked out a few seasons ago when Kershaw came on the market, but was coming off a 12 month labrum tear. His ratings were still up, so I took the chance and signed him for a below market $19-21 million a year over like 5 years I think. As soon as he got back, he was vintage Kershaw and led me to a few titles, won a few Cy's (even an MVP) that I never would have gotten without him.



Now I'm in the offseason going into his age 36 season, with him under contract for 2 more years now at $24 and $26 million. His last season was his best yet, he won the Triple Crown with lowest ERA, most wins, most K's. Was 2nd in MVP vote and won all his playoff games, then came into game 7 of the World Series on short rest and got me 4 innings of relief to keep me in the game after a horrible start from my #2, which allowed us to come back and make up a 4 run deficit to tie in the 9th, then win with a walkoff in the 10th after a single (subbed in my speed utility infielder), hit and run that got my guy to 3rd, and a sac fly to win.



All that to say, it was amazing, and now I love Kershaw. Problem is he is old, expensive, and now his injury status is showing as 'fragile', so he is much more likely to get injured going forward. I had to look into trades, and the Rangers have a ton of salary space, and are willing to trade 5 good pitching prospects for him straight up. Do I roll the dice and hope Kershaw stays healthy and doesn't suddenly drop off a cliff? Or do I roll the dice and hope at least one of the stud prospects pans out to be an above average pitcher, along with another few that should get to be 3's or 4's for me? Plus how much do I factor loyalty to the guy that is team captain and made us champs?



I've literally had that trade window open for 5 days wavering on taking it or not, and thinking about it throughout my day. Damn game is dangerous man.

Love this! Do other CPU GMs run their team logically? Understanding market size, and budget?

Also, do teams wait to call up prospects, and are cognizant of service time, and gaining maximum years of control?


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[Schreck]

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Love this! Do other CPU GMs run their team logically? Understanding market size, and budget?

Also, do teams wait to call up prospects, and are cognizant of service time, and gaining maximum years of control?

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So far it sure seems like they handle those items pretty well. My favorite part is that it can be pretty random though, and each team/GM really does have it's own personality. Some clearly value those things way more than others.

Like in the trade scenario I mentioned (still can't make up my mind ), I couldn't get any good offers from any other team, even though I tried like crazy. But Texas had that big salary space, and is in "Win Now" mode, so they didn't even flinch as I kept adding prospects.

So it's cool that each team is really different, some wheel and deal like crazy with small and big trades happening every week, others never do anything. Some prioritize prospects, some vets, some hitting and some defense or pitching. Makes you try a lot of things out, and it really makes you think through what you value too.

[BucksInSix]

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So far it sure seems like they handle those items pretty well. My favorite part is that it can be pretty random though, and each team/GM really does have it's own personality. Some clearly value those things way more than others.



Like in the trade scenario I mentioned (still can't make up my mind ), I couldn't get any good offers from any other team, even though I tried like crazy. But Texas had that big salary space, and is in "Win Now" mode, so they didn't even flinch as I kept adding prospects.



So it's cool that each team is really different, some wheel and deal like crazy with small and big trades happening every week, others never do anything. Some prioritize prospects, some vets, some hitting and some defense or pitching. Makes you try a lot of things out, and it really makes you think through what you value too.

FWIW I would trade Kersh in that scenario. Better to be a year early, than a year late.


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[Schreck]

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FWIW I would trade Kersh in that scenario. Better to be a year early, than a year late.


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Well, I did go ahead and make the trade, just got into the season, and on opening day, Kershaw got injured after 1 inning, and is out 4 weeks. So, may not regret this one at all .

[Altimus]

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Hey guys, just picked up OOTP a few days ago and I'm hooked. My first visit in OOTP, I'm a big Football Manager gamer but haven't followed baseball closely in a while. Anyway, decided to give it a go and I am pretty damn hooked.

I do have one question, when I go to upcoming FA I don't see all the players listed. However, when I click on a prospect player, it says his contract expires after the 2017 season even though he is not on the list. However, his minor league contract is for another 3 years. I guess my question is if someone can explain to me how this works?

[CMH]

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Hey guys, just picked up OOTP a few days ago and I'm hooked. My first visit in OOTP, I'm a big Football Manager gamer but haven't followed baseball closely in a while. Anyway, decided to give it a go and I am pretty damn hooked.

I do have one question, when I go to upcoming FA I don't see all the players listed. However, when I click on a prospect player, it says his contract expires after the 2017 season even though he is not on the list. However, his minor league contract is for another 3 years. I guess my question is if someone can explain to me how this works?

This is a simple explanation. I won't go too deep though there are more factors like days on the MLB roster, options, etc.

A player is essentially the property of a team for about six years once they make their MLB debut. The first three years they are paid the league minimum. After that they head into arbitration for three years. There are exceptions to this but you'll most likely see it work out this way.

When determining if a player will be a free agent, the upcoming FA section won't lie to you. Great tool to use. Also use the team salary screen as it will let you know if a player might be getting paid next season (assuming they are already being paid) or if they will be free agents, i.e. there is no expected money next to their name the following season.

Finally the player contract tab will tell you if a player is a potential free agent, heading into arbitration, or an automatic renewal, among other things.



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[Altimus]

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Thank you sir.


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[AirJordanFan93]

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Decided to get this due to the sale. WOW am I impressed with the detail this game has. I am a pretty avid Football Manager player and this blows that out of the water with how in-depth it is. Sadly I haven't been able to put in a huge amount of time yet due to work but the weekend beckons. I can tell I am going to lose a lot of time in the historical sims with this game.

Anyway decided to start a historical sim from 1950 and go forward just to see how history plays out. This is a feature I wish would be adapted into Football Manager but lack of authentic lisences hinders such a mode from being put into those games.

[notsobabybombers]

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Firing up a new current-day save and I randomly selected the Royals. Hoping this save can hold my interest until OOTP 19 drops. (I restart saves a lot.)

[Skyboxer]

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Last OOTP I played was '11
Think I may get back into it when 19 drops.

[kamackeris76]

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As someone from the UK I really want to get into this game but I really struggle with how I should actually be playing it! I love mlb but I don't know all the intricacies of the sport. Do you guys sim most games? The shear number of games played would take ages? I just seem to find the game rather daunting as a beginner!

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[CMH]

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As someone from the UK I really want to get into this game but I really struggle with how I should actually be playing it! I love mlb but I don't know all the intricacies of the sport. Do you guys sim most games? The shear number of games played would take ages? I just seem to find the game rather daunting as a beginner!

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Even for hardcore fans of the sport it can be a lot.

Take it little by little. Play a game. Then check out some menus. Play another game. Check out more menus.

You'll get it eventually. Baseball is a sport that allows a team to survive on the bare minimum attention as you learn more about the sport and the game's features.

This is how I've approcahed Football Manager when first playing it.

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[notsobabybombers]

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Well the 2017 Royals went 58-104, worst in the league. Ned Yost was so embarrassed he retired. We traded Cain and Hosmer mid season to get something for them before they left for FA. We traded Cain to Boston, who beat LA in the World Series. One of our only owner goals was to resign Moose but we couldn't afford him even after some maneuvering. He declined the qualifying offer and went to the Angels.