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  • stabmasterb
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 270

    #16
    Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

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    stabmasterb said:
    i really can't imagine any baseball simulation fan choosing anything other than asb. i tried em all, wsb was pathetic, they gotta tighten up that stance/swing mechanic interface, i feel like im playing softball. hh is about 7 years behind graphically speaking, i felt like the pitcher was standing on homeplate.

    aside from the catcher's vacume(foul a first pitch into the cachers mit and get rung up, that was brutal), 2004 was tremendous . if i was on the asb production team i would have changed only a few things going into 2005.

    1)i would have made exagerated pitch the default. its much more realistic and new players wouldn't be turned off by the intimidating interface. i see they got a little drastic and made zone hitting the default. thats all good i guess but it in my opinion it was unnecessary. the pitcher hitter battle is perfect with exagerated pitch on. thats right perfect.

    2)make it simple to re-arrange rosters for an exhibition game. never let the computer override a roster move for a mere exibition game. i mean, what the hell was that?

    3)tighten up the animations when a fielder catches a fly on the run, i guess people call it a vacume, i see it more as minor graphical sloppiness. maybe add some more "before the pitch" fielder animations. signature fielding stances(is that silly) i think it could be pretty cool.

    as for new additions,
    drill us with tons of RENAMEABLE complete classic teams. maddens does it espn nhl hockey does it ASB needs to do it. just get the height/weight/batting side/throwing side as well as the attributes for everyone and pitch selection for pitchers and let the GAME OWNER edit the names and numbers. and thats all we need. some dork (god bless their souls) will crank out the names and #'s on shark port and action replay within a week. and let us use the teams and see the names online.

    anyway, if anyone reading this works for acclaim. thak you, for creating the best baseball game ever (well pound for pound the best ever console baseball game was baseball-stars for nintendo). but as for as being the greatest most fun, realistic ball game ever. you beat the competition hands down. you should be proud.

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    Please be more specific. This is a worn road, as it's been discussed SO many times before. Either you're hard-headed and refuse to believe the truth, or you're new to the scene. Anyhow, are you talking about the ASB 2005 installment coming out, or referring to "look at the cool, blurry baseball cards I can get, and Mom can I put a saddle on one of those fielders and go horseback riding?" version that came out last season? ASB 2004 literally sucked. The ONLY great thing about that game was how pretty the stadiums were. Unfortunately, the cardboard crowds took away some of that beauty.

    If the hitter interface has been much improved, the fielders actually "do something" between plays, the pitches look more realistic, the franchise feature has been redesigned and the silly "kiddy incentives" have been dropped to a lower spot on the totem pole of priorities of how the game is designed, then YES I will purchase the game.

    Otherwise, I'll just pass and either wait or go for the next installment of WSB.

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    lol, good point about the silly baseball cards certainly we can live without those. but you're talking about things like crowd appearence i'm talking about things like ball and stadium physics. wsb feels like nba jam baseball to me. pitches floating in slow motion. hurried swing mechanicks that look like a film from the 1920's. i think that most people that were turned off by asb just couln't hit the ball, and come up with a bunch of ad hoc reasons why they chose wsb. i tried wsb i felt like i was playing softball.

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    • slugger393
      Rookie
      • Jan 2003
      • 31

      #17
      Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

      "i think that most people that were turned off by asb just couln't hit the ball, and come up with a bunch of ad hoc reasons why they chose wsb. i tried wsb i felt like i was playing softball"

      WELL SAID! WSB feels like an arcade game, what happened to the sweet game from Sega Genesis???

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      • slugger393
        Rookie
        • Jan 2003
        • 31

        #18
        Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

        "i think that most people that were turned off by asb just couln't hit the ball, and come up with a bunch of ad hoc reasons why they chose wsb. i tried wsb i felt like i was playing softball"

        WELL SAID! WSB feels like an arcade game, what happened to the sweet game from Sega Genesis???

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        • slugger393
          Rookie
          • Jan 2003
          • 31

          #19
          Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

          "i think that most people that were turned off by asb just couln't hit the ball, and come up with a bunch of ad hoc reasons why they chose wsb. i tried wsb i felt like i was playing softball"

          WELL SAID! WSB feels like an arcade game, what happened to the sweet game from Sega Genesis???

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          • ChicagoSparty
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 1358

            #20
            Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

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            stabmasterb said:
            i really can't imagine any baseball simulation fan choosing anything other than asb. i tried em all, wsb was pathetic, they gotta tighten up that stance/swing mechanic interface, i feel like im playing softball. hh is about 7 years behind graphically speaking, i felt like the pitcher was standing on homeplate.



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            How about the fact that the hitting interface was fatally flawed, making it possible to either hit (1) lines drives and grounders or (2) homeruns, but not both? Or, you could use zone hitting and hit both, but only up the middle of the field.

            If ASB changes this, then yes, it will be by far the best baseball game ever made, IMO. But these problems in last year's game made it virtually unplayable.
            Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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            • ChicagoSparty
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 1358

              #21
              Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

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              stabmasterb said:
              i really can't imagine any baseball simulation fan choosing anything other than asb. i tried em all, wsb was pathetic, they gotta tighten up that stance/swing mechanic interface, i feel like im playing softball. hh is about 7 years behind graphically speaking, i felt like the pitcher was standing on homeplate.



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              How about the fact that the hitting interface was fatally flawed, making it possible to either hit (1) lines drives and grounders or (2) homeruns, but not both? Or, you could use zone hitting and hit both, but only up the middle of the field.

              If ASB changes this, then yes, it will be by far the best baseball game ever made, IMO. But these problems in last year's game made it virtually unplayable.
              Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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              • ChicagoSparty
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 1358

                #22
                Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

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                stabmasterb said:
                i really can't imagine any baseball simulation fan choosing anything other than asb. i tried em all, wsb was pathetic, they gotta tighten up that stance/swing mechanic interface, i feel like im playing softball. hh is about 7 years behind graphically speaking, i felt like the pitcher was standing on homeplate.



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                How about the fact that the hitting interface was fatally flawed, making it possible to either hit (1) lines drives and grounders or (2) homeruns, but not both? Or, you could use zone hitting and hit both, but only up the middle of the field.

                If ASB changes this, then yes, it will be by far the best baseball game ever made, IMO. But these problems in last year's game made it virtually unplayable.
                Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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                • silver540i
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 975

                  #23
                  Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                  True, ASB was the best game, but the hitting physics model needs work. ChicagoSparty has a point. That flaw was pointed out by several people in this forum when the game came out.

                  It would be nice to see them just make a few additions, add cameras, fix the hitting model, and do some tweaking with the pitching control. The game would be fantastic.

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                  • silver540i
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 975

                    #24
                    Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                    True, ASB was the best game, but the hitting physics model needs work. ChicagoSparty has a point. That flaw was pointed out by several people in this forum when the game came out.

                    It would be nice to see them just make a few additions, add cameras, fix the hitting model, and do some tweaking with the pitching control. The game would be fantastic.

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                    • silver540i
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 975

                      #25
                      Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                      True, ASB was the best game, but the hitting physics model needs work. ChicagoSparty has a point. That flaw was pointed out by several people in this forum when the game came out.

                      It would be nice to see them just make a few additions, add cameras, fix the hitting model, and do some tweaking with the pitching control. The game would be fantastic.

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                      • 2ndBase
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 450

                        #26
                        Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                        The bat and ball collision was very inconsistent. If you were late on a pitch, you could actually see, in the replay, the ball go into the catchers mit and then the bat go through the strike zone, and the ball comes out of the mit off the bat into play. That is some ball! When this happens, it also slows the swing animation making it feel like you have to stand on the swing button to get the bat through the zone.

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                        • 2ndBase
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 450

                          #27
                          Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                          The bat and ball collision was very inconsistent. If you were late on a pitch, you could actually see, in the replay, the ball go into the catchers mit and then the bat go through the strike zone, and the ball comes out of the mit off the bat into play. That is some ball! When this happens, it also slows the swing animation making it feel like you have to stand on the swing button to get the bat through the zone.

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                          • 2ndBase
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 450

                            #28
                            Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                            The bat and ball collision was very inconsistent. If you were late on a pitch, you could actually see, in the replay, the ball go into the catchers mit and then the bat go through the strike zone, and the ball comes out of the mit off the bat into play. That is some ball! When this happens, it also slows the swing animation making it feel like you have to stand on the swing button to get the bat through the zone.

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                            • silver540i
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 975

                              #29
                              Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                              Its too bad the hitting cant be more like Baseball Pro 98. That had a fantastic physics model. The ball would spray all over the field...very realistic.

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                              • silver540i
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 975

                                #30
                                Re: am i crazy, how can any baseball gamer not prefer asb?

                                Its too bad the hitting cant be more like Baseball Pro 98. That had a fantastic physics model. The ball would spray all over the field...very realistic.

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