ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

**SPTO** · 02-20-2004, 03:45 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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Even ASB changed its default batting from icon to zone to appease casual gamers unwilling to take the week of BP neccessary to be sucessful hitting the laserbeam ASB pitches. Mvp's hype and sales will translate directly to how all the other games are designed in the future.

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You make it sound as if zone hitting is the only type of hitting in the game when it's not. Also may I remind you that they put in zone hitting LAST year so it's not like they suddenly felt the pressure of the arcade/casual fan and did this to appease them. They just made the game more user friendly with different options.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 02-20-2004, 03:52 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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SportsmanTO said:
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Even ASB changed its default batting from icon to zone to appease casual gamers unwilling to take the week of BP neccessary to be sucessful hitting the laserbeam ASB pitches. Mvp's hype and sales will translate directly to how all the other games are designed in the future.

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You make it sound as if zone hitting is the only type of hitting in the game when it's not. Also may I remind you that they put in zone hitting LAST year so it's not like they suddenly felt the pressure of the arcade/casual fan and did this to appease them. They just made the game more user friendly with different options.

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Yeah, and also, remember what you just said too... they changed its default from cursor to zone. Basically all that means is if you started up ASB without any saved settings to be loaded, and instantly went to Exhibition mode, that you won't see a cursor in front of you when you're batting, because you're in Zone.

That's basically all it means... that now this year, you have to go to options to switch to cursor, rather than the other way around.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 02-20-2004, 03:52 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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SportsmanTO said:
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Even ASB changed its default batting from icon to zone to appease casual gamers unwilling to take the week of BP neccessary to be sucessful hitting the laserbeam ASB pitches. Mvp's hype and sales will translate directly to how all the other games are designed in the future.

<hr /></blockquote>

You make it sound as if zone hitting is the only type of hitting in the game when it's not. Also may I remind you that they put in zone hitting LAST year so it's not like they suddenly felt the pressure of the arcade/casual fan and did this to appease them. They just made the game more user friendly with different options.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah, and also, remember what you just said too... they changed its default from cursor to zone. Basically all that means is if you started up ASB without any saved settings to be loaded, and instantly went to Exhibition mode, that you won't see a cursor in front of you when you're batting, because you're in Zone.

That's basically all it means... that now this year, you have to go to options to switch to cursor, rather than the other way around.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 02-20-2004, 03:52 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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SportsmanTO said:
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Even ASB changed its default batting from icon to zone to appease casual gamers unwilling to take the week of BP neccessary to be sucessful hitting the laserbeam ASB pitches. Mvp's hype and sales will translate directly to how all the other games are designed in the future.

<hr /></blockquote>

You make it sound as if zone hitting is the only type of hitting in the game when it's not. Also may I remind you that they put in zone hitting LAST year so it's not like they suddenly felt the pressure of the arcade/casual fan and did this to appease them. They just made the game more user friendly with different options.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah, and also, remember what you just said too... they changed its default from cursor to zone. Basically all that means is if you started up ASB without any saved settings to be loaded, and instantly went to Exhibition mode, that you won't see a cursor in front of you when you're batting, because you're in Zone.

That's basically all it means... that now this year, you have to go to options to switch to cursor, rather than the other way around.

**HealyMonster** · 02-20-2004, 05:09 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

have they changed the zone batting at all? last year it was too easy. there is no excuse if they dont get it right. i dont understand it, mvp doesnt need 5 different batting options, neither did high heat, so why cant asb get it right. now look they got me upset, im gonna go chill out, thanks if anyone knows the answer

**HealyMonster** · 02-20-2004, 05:09 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

have they changed the zone batting at all? last year it was too easy. there is no excuse if they dont get it right. i dont understand it, mvp doesnt need 5 different batting options, neither did high heat, so why cant asb get it right. now look they got me upset, im gonna go chill out, thanks if anyone knows the answer

**HealyMonster** · 02-20-2004, 05:09 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

have they changed the zone batting at all? last year it was too easy. there is no excuse if they dont get it right. i dont understand it, mvp doesnt need 5 different batting options, neither did high heat, so why cant asb get it right. now look they got me upset, im gonna go chill out, thanks if anyone knows the answer

**Heelfan71** · 02-20-2004, 07:44 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

Acclaim is just listening to what people want. Some hate cursor so they put in zone hitting. Personally, I use the cursor, it makes hitting more difficult. Of course all you hear is "it's not realistic" "blah blah blah". Last time I checked, it was a video game , and no game will be like hitting in real baseball.

**Heelfan71** · 02-20-2004, 07:44 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

Acclaim is just listening to what people want. Some hate cursor so they put in zone hitting. Personally, I use the cursor, it makes hitting more difficult. Of course all you hear is "it's not realistic" "blah blah blah". Last time I checked, it was a video game , and no game will be like hitting in real baseball.

**Heelfan71** · 02-20-2004, 07:44 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

Acclaim is just listening to what people want. Some hate cursor so they put in zone hitting. Personally, I use the cursor, it makes hitting more difficult. Of course all you hear is "it's not realistic" "blah blah blah". Last time I checked, it was a video game , and no game will be like hitting in real baseball.

**GTheorenHobbes** · 02-20-2004, 10:12 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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HMcCoy said:
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SportsorDeath said:
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cub said:
I guess it depends on what you're looking for.

If you want a realistic look, long-term depth/details, a simulation style, and so on, ASB definitely looks like the clear leader.

If you're looking for an arcade-style game with lots of flash, it definitely doesn't.

Unfortunately, 90% of gamers and critics are looking for the latter.

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Not to get too far off topic, but why is it "unfortunate", Cub? Will the fact that a lot of people are exicted about MVP or another game influence your decision on what game you buy? Will it somehow hinder the enjoyment you will get from playing ASB?

If not, then why does it really matter what the critics, 90% of gamers or anyone else says?

Just curious

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Simple. Look at ESPN B-Ball. They F'd up a perfectly good game, because both NBA Street and the arcadish Live '03 outsold the ESPN 3 to 1. Espn said to hell with the sim aspects and went arcade. Now that game is trash to all but the hardcore SEGA fanboys and graphic whores.

I've always hated HH, but I hate the fact that it's no longer available for its fans 100000000000x's more. Why is HH no longer with us? Because though it was universally acclaimed as the most realistic baseball title by fans and critics alike, Average Joe ignored it and gravitated to the arcadish but "fun" MVP in DROVES.

Bye Bye HH...

Even ASB changed its default batting from icon to zone to appease casual gamers unwilling to take the week of BP neccessary to be sucessful hitting the laserbeam ASB pitches. Mvp's hype and sales will translate directly to how all the other games are designed in the future.

That sucks. Thats why I care. Thats why its unfortunate

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One of the best posts I've read in this new year.

**GTheorenHobbes** · 02-20-2004, 10:12 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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HMcCoy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SportsorDeath said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
cub said:
I guess it depends on what you're looking for.

If you want a realistic look, long-term depth/details, a simulation style, and so on, ASB definitely looks like the clear leader.

If you're looking for an arcade-style game with lots of flash, it definitely doesn't.

Unfortunately, 90% of gamers and critics are looking for the latter.

<hr /></blockquote>

Not to get too far off topic, but why is it "unfortunate", Cub? Will the fact that a lot of people are exicted about MVP or another game influence your decision on what game you buy? Will it somehow hinder the enjoyment you will get from playing ASB?

If not, then why does it really matter what the critics, 90% of gamers or anyone else says?

Just curious

<hr /></blockquote>

Simple. Look at ESPN B-Ball. They F'd up a perfectly good game, because both NBA Street and the arcadish Live '03 outsold the ESPN 3 to 1. Espn said to hell with the sim aspects and went arcade. Now that game is trash to all but the hardcore SEGA fanboys and graphic whores.

I've always hated HH, but I hate the fact that it's no longer available for its fans 100000000000x's more. Why is HH no longer with us? Because though it was universally acclaimed as the most realistic baseball title by fans and critics alike, Average Joe ignored it and gravitated to the arcadish but "fun" MVP in DROVES.

Bye Bye HH...

Even ASB changed its default batting from icon to zone to appease casual gamers unwilling to take the week of BP neccessary to be sucessful hitting the laserbeam ASB pitches. Mvp's hype and sales will translate directly to how all the other games are designed in the future.

That sucks. Thats why I care. Thats why its unfortunate

<hr /></blockquote>

One of the best posts I've read in this new year.

**GTheorenHobbes** · 02-20-2004, 10:12 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SportsorDeath said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
cub said:
I guess it depends on what you're looking for.

If you want a realistic look, long-term depth/details, a simulation style, and so on, ASB definitely looks like the clear leader.

If you're looking for an arcade-style game with lots of flash, it definitely doesn't.

Unfortunately, 90% of gamers and critics are looking for the latter.

<hr /></blockquote>

Not to get too far off topic, but why is it "unfortunate", Cub? Will the fact that a lot of people are exicted about MVP or another game influence your decision on what game you buy? Will it somehow hinder the enjoyment you will get from playing ASB?

If not, then why does it really matter what the critics, 90% of gamers or anyone else says?

Just curious

<hr /></blockquote>

Simple. Look at ESPN B-Ball. They F'd up a perfectly good game, because both NBA Street and the arcadish Live '03 outsold the ESPN 3 to 1. Espn said to hell with the sim aspects and went arcade. Now that game is trash to all but the hardcore SEGA fanboys and graphic whores.

I've always hated HH, but I hate the fact that it's no longer available for its fans 100000000000x's more. Why is HH no longer with us? Because though it was universally acclaimed as the most realistic baseball title by fans and critics alike, Average Joe ignored it and gravitated to the arcadish but "fun" MVP in DROVES.

Bye Bye HH...

Even ASB changed its default batting from icon to zone to appease casual gamers unwilling to take the week of BP neccessary to be sucessful hitting the laserbeam ASB pitches. Mvp's hype and sales will translate directly to how all the other games are designed in the future.

That sucks. Thats why I care. Thats why its unfortunate

<hr /></blockquote>

One of the best posts I've read in this new year.

**Riotboy** · 02-20-2004, 10:39 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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TXBginz said:
I would dig ESPN, but they are high on something and you cant use your updated rosters online.

So far, ASB has shaped up the most of the bunch, and all for the better it seems.

Anyone else really high on this game??

chef423

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The Force is strong with this one.^

**Riotboy** · 02-20-2004, 10:39 AM

Re: ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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TXBginz said:
I would dig ESPN, but they are high on something and you cant use your updated rosters online.

So far, ASB has shaped up the most of the bunch, and all for the better it seems.

Anyone else really high on this game??

chef423

<hr /></blockquote>

The Force is strong with this one.^

ASB2005 looks to be the clear winner this year....

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