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  • Comp625
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 477

    #46
    Re: Smart Counts

    I honestly found the most realism in using 1-0 counts. I can still draw walks while pitching and batting. The pitch counts still seem realistic (anywhere between 75 - 100 pitches through 6 innings -- it depends on how good or bad the pitcher is doing). It also gives me 3 strikes which allows me to better work the pitcher. With any count that has a strike or two on it already, it gives me less of an opportunity to find the right pitch that I want to hit.

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    • Bacardi151
      **t *f y**r *l*m*nt D*nny
      • Aug 2002
      • 3114

      #47
      Re: Smart Counts

      what level do you guys play at were you see a decent number of walks by the CPU? Part of the problem is me swinging at everything, but its because everything looks like a strike

      Roger clemens pitched a complete game, striking out 12. It was ugly
      Eternal Salvation or triple your money back!

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      • Bacardi151
        **t *f y**r *l*m*nt D*nny
        • Aug 2002
        • 3114

        #48
        Re: Smart Counts

        what level do you guys play at were you see a decent number of walks by the CPU? Part of the problem is me swinging at everything, but its because everything looks like a strike

        Roger clemens pitched a complete game, striking out 12. It was ugly
        Eternal Salvation or triple your money back!

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        • Bacardi151
          **t *f y**r *l*m*nt D*nny
          • Aug 2002
          • 3114

          #49
          Re: Smart Counts

          what level do you guys play at were you see a decent number of walks by the CPU? Part of the problem is me swinging at everything, but its because everything looks like a strike

          Roger clemens pitched a complete game, striking out 12. It was ugly
          Eternal Salvation or triple your money back!

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          • Hooligan
            Rookie
            • Feb 2003
            • 374

            #50
            Re: Smart Counts

            Bacardi, I've been playing on Hall Of Fame, default, and on a good day, I can get a few walks. The nice thing will HOF is that it shows you the strike zone, so you have a feeling of where the pitch is. Personally, seeing the strike zone really helps in staying away from bad pitches. Don't get me wrong, I'll still chase and strike out, but it makes me a bit more patient. When I get better, I'll probably take the strike zone out, but for now, it helps in getting a walk or two.

            As for smart counts...

            I've been a proponent of them, but the past couple games I've played with them, I feel the same as the above player in that it ruins the tension of the running game, and screws over any bunting situations. It also will give you really low pitch-strike ratios which is not realistic.

            In all honesty, the more I play, the more I like it with no random pitch counts or predetermined pitch counts (1-0.1-1.etc). I love the pacing in the game, and the tension that is built by starting each batter off with a clean slate.

            And I still think that the ASB programmers programmed the fatigue to work best with the pitch counts we usually see without using the generated count option. Just work the counts, and you can get pitchers to tire out, and when you are pitching, don't be afraid to try to get the batters to chase.

            Although I must say that the 1-0 count intrigues me . I was trying with a 1-1 generated count, but didn't really like it. So that may be another solution.

            Anyway, glad to get some PS2 people to share in the conversations

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            • Hooligan
              Rookie
              • Feb 2003
              • 374

              #51
              Re: Smart Counts

              Bacardi, I've been playing on Hall Of Fame, default, and on a good day, I can get a few walks. The nice thing will HOF is that it shows you the strike zone, so you have a feeling of where the pitch is. Personally, seeing the strike zone really helps in staying away from bad pitches. Don't get me wrong, I'll still chase and strike out, but it makes me a bit more patient. When I get better, I'll probably take the strike zone out, but for now, it helps in getting a walk or two.

              As for smart counts...

              I've been a proponent of them, but the past couple games I've played with them, I feel the same as the above player in that it ruins the tension of the running game, and screws over any bunting situations. It also will give you really low pitch-strike ratios which is not realistic.

              In all honesty, the more I play, the more I like it with no random pitch counts or predetermined pitch counts (1-0.1-1.etc). I love the pacing in the game, and the tension that is built by starting each batter off with a clean slate.

              And I still think that the ASB programmers programmed the fatigue to work best with the pitch counts we usually see without using the generated count option. Just work the counts, and you can get pitchers to tire out, and when you are pitching, don't be afraid to try to get the batters to chase.

              Although I must say that the 1-0 count intrigues me . I was trying with a 1-1 generated count, but didn't really like it. So that may be another solution.

              Anyway, glad to get some PS2 people to share in the conversations

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              • Hooligan
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 374

                #52
                Re: Smart Counts

                Bacardi, I've been playing on Hall Of Fame, default, and on a good day, I can get a few walks. The nice thing will HOF is that it shows you the strike zone, so you have a feeling of where the pitch is. Personally, seeing the strike zone really helps in staying away from bad pitches. Don't get me wrong, I'll still chase and strike out, but it makes me a bit more patient. When I get better, I'll probably take the strike zone out, but for now, it helps in getting a walk or two.

                As for smart counts...

                I've been a proponent of them, but the past couple games I've played with them, I feel the same as the above player in that it ruins the tension of the running game, and screws over any bunting situations. It also will give you really low pitch-strike ratios which is not realistic.

                In all honesty, the more I play, the more I like it with no random pitch counts or predetermined pitch counts (1-0.1-1.etc). I love the pacing in the game, and the tension that is built by starting each batter off with a clean slate.

                And I still think that the ASB programmers programmed the fatigue to work best with the pitch counts we usually see without using the generated count option. Just work the counts, and you can get pitchers to tire out, and when you are pitching, don't be afraid to try to get the batters to chase.

                Although I must say that the 1-0 count intrigues me . I was trying with a 1-1 generated count, but didn't really like it. So that may be another solution.

                Anyway, glad to get some PS2 people to share in the conversations

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                • Comp625
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 477

                  #53
                  Re: Smart Counts

                  I'm playing on HOF level with the Strike Zone off, Pitcher & Hitter aids off. Give the 1-0 count a try. You may be surprised guys!

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                  • Comp625
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 477

                    #54
                    Re: Smart Counts

                    I'm playing on HOF level with the Strike Zone off, Pitcher & Hitter aids off. Give the 1-0 count a try. You may be surprised guys!

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                    • Comp625
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 477

                      #55
                      Re: Smart Counts

                      I'm playing on HOF level with the Strike Zone off, Pitcher & Hitter aids off. Give the 1-0 count a try. You may be surprised guys!

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                      • slthree
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2529

                        #56
                        Re: Smart Counts

                        Maybe a couple of us could try the 1-0 count as mentioned above and some others could go back to no count at all. I may try both. I would like to see 4-5 pitch at bats.

                        Here's an interesting point that I would not have imagined. I was watching an MLB game and a particular hitter was up to bat and the announcers said that he was one of the most patient hitters in baseball. He averaged 4.2 pitches per at bat and that ranked 5th in the Majors. So, while there are times when walks seem abundant, like the Red Sox 2 nights ago and the Braves last night, it seems like we really can't realistically expect more than what occurs in the bigs.

                        I think I'd be satisfird to walk 2-3 times per game.

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                        • slthree
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2529

                          #57
                          Re: Smart Counts

                          Maybe a couple of us could try the 1-0 count as mentioned above and some others could go back to no count at all. I may try both. I would like to see 4-5 pitch at bats.

                          Here's an interesting point that I would not have imagined. I was watching an MLB game and a particular hitter was up to bat and the announcers said that he was one of the most patient hitters in baseball. He averaged 4.2 pitches per at bat and that ranked 5th in the Majors. So, while there are times when walks seem abundant, like the Red Sox 2 nights ago and the Braves last night, it seems like we really can't realistically expect more than what occurs in the bigs.

                          I think I'd be satisfird to walk 2-3 times per game.

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                          • slthree
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2529

                            #58
                            Re: Smart Counts

                            Maybe a couple of us could try the 1-0 count as mentioned above and some others could go back to no count at all. I may try both. I would like to see 4-5 pitch at bats.

                            Here's an interesting point that I would not have imagined. I was watching an MLB game and a particular hitter was up to bat and the announcers said that he was one of the most patient hitters in baseball. He averaged 4.2 pitches per at bat and that ranked 5th in the Majors. So, while there are times when walks seem abundant, like the Red Sox 2 nights ago and the Braves last night, it seems like we really can't realistically expect more than what occurs in the bigs.

                            I think I'd be satisfird to walk 2-3 times per game.

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                            • 3rdAnswer
                              Regular Cat Records®
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 10845

                              #59
                              Re: Smart Counts

                              <font color="blue"> I'm starting to not like Smart Counts anymore. My pitchers get tired WAY too soon. When I wasn't using them, I threw a 3-hitter with Tim Hudson, but all of my other starters get tired after 3 innings work. I got beat 15-3 my last game, against the Mariners. </font>
                              -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                              www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                              New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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                              • 3rdAnswer
                                Regular Cat Records®
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 10845

                                #60
                                Re: Smart Counts

                                <font color="blue"> I'm starting to not like Smart Counts anymore. My pitchers get tired WAY too soon. When I wasn't using them, I threw a 3-hitter with Tim Hudson, but all of my other starters get tired after 3 innings work. I got beat 15-3 my last game, against the Mariners. </font>
                                -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                                www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                                New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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