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  • CaptainZombie
    Brains
    • Jul 2003
    • 37851

    #61
    Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

    Originally posted by inkcil
    This is one rant that you don't have to apologize for.

    I agree just about w/ev'thing you said. And I'm beginning to wonder, will active crords and vendors and prettier graphics relly make this game worth playing on the 360?
    I feel the same. There is no way even if the commentary, active crowds, & graphics will make me buy a game if the gameplay is broken. When I look at the videos, the animations appear similar to last year.
    HDMovie Room

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    • inkcil
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 5253

      #62
      Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

      Originally posted by Erratic
      If you cared about gameplay then you wouldn 't have many gripes. Last year the diving fields and hr robs were the biggest gameplay flaws imo and they both seem to be fixed.
      Add to that list:

      Vaccum pitchers
      Double swith glitch
      Passed ball glitch (not automatically fixed 100% of the time with the suggested slider adjustment, btw)
      Balls that roll into the outfield and suddenly disappear only to be counted as HRs
      3rd basemen not charging bunts down the line
      Pitcher not getting in proper position during throws home from the outfield
      2nd baseman covering the 2nd base bag on slow rollers hit to the right side (instead of feilding the ball).
      SS covering 2nd base when slow rollers were hit directly to the SS spot on the left side...w/ 2nd baseman attempting to field slow roller hit to the left side of the 2nd base bag
      Pitcher automatically walking the #8 batter any time there were 2 outs.
      Web gem animation took control from you as soon as the ball was hit on loopers in the infield (infielders would automatically catch the ball).
      And I STILL see the super automatic all-of a-sudden dives performed by the fielders...just look a the SS dive for a ball in the last IGN POTD.

      I'm sure other could come up with more.

      The bad animations just added insult to injury.

      Note: I reserve the right to exercise Final Judgement upon release of the game.
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      • baa7
        Banned
        • Jul 2004
        • 11691

        #63
        Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

        Originally posted by inkcil
        IMO, the animations are still horrible, especially when you think about the fact that 2k also brought us NFL 2k5.

        Oh well...
        See, I agree with this. The animations are embarrassing compared to every sports game that's been out in the last five years. But the thing people sometimes overlook, is that you do have a choice. Pick up The Show, and check out 2K7 in a year from now. On the other hand, I could understand being upset and PO'd if you were a football fan, because the only game you've got to look forward to in the next few years is that horrible-playing Madden franchise.

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        • CaptainZombie
          Brains
          • Jul 2003
          • 37851

          #64
          Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

          Originally posted by baa7
          See, I agree with this. The animations are embarrassing compared to every sports game that's been out in the last five years. But the thing people sometimes overlook, is that you do have a choice. Pick up The Show, and check out 2K7 in a year from now. On the other hand, I could understand being upset and PO'd if you were a football fan, because the only game you've got to look forward to in the next few years is that horrible-playing Madden franchise.
          We do have a few choices, but when we want to see the 2K6 series succeed but KUSH is going in a different direction it get to be very frustrating.
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          • baa7
            Banned
            • Jul 2004
            • 11691

            #65
            Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

            Originally posted by inkcil
            Add to that list:

            Passed ball glitch (not automatically fixed 100% of the time with the suggested slider adjustment, btw)
            The slider adjustment fixed it, in that passed balls only happen every 15 games or so. That seems VERY realistic. I mean, they have to happen sometimes.

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            • baa7
              Banned
              • Jul 2004
              • 11691

              #66
              Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

              Originally posted by candyman56
              We do have a few choices, but when we want to see the 2K6 series succeed but KUSH is going in a different direction it get to be very frustrating.
              I understand the "expectation" part of all that, but not the "frustrating" aspect. I know when I'm frustrated, it's because I choose to be. And it often happens I get frustrated when I'm expecting something in particular, but it doesn't pan out that way. Hey, if 2K6 blows, it's only that much more incentive to pick up a PS3 next fall or whenever I'm already betting playing The Show in 2007 on the PS3 is going to make us all forget about the sadsack batters in 2K6 who screw their heads around 360 degrees whenever they hit the ball.

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              • rock85
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 3146

                #67
                Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                Interesting how at around the 3:50 mark when it shows the line score it shows the Reds as the home team...overall though, I think this game will surprise people. With some tweaking it might play alright. One thing that bugs me about 2K baseball games is they have never gotten cut off rotations down at all. The P is never a cut off man...he runs to cover 3rd or Home. Instead, they have him cut the ball off. I wish they would let OF/IF/C arms be adjusted with a slider as well.
                Being an EX pitcher that just drives me NUTS

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                • rock85
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3146

                  #68
                  Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                  Originally posted by baa7
                  This is the same guy that bare hands line drives in 2K5 and dives in front of infielders and snags hot shots with his teeth... why would he do something as wimpy as cover third base?
                  LOL true so true

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                  • Erratic
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 708

                    #69
                    Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                    Originally posted by inkcil
                    Add to that list:

                    Vaccum pitchers
                    Double swith glitch
                    Passed ball glitch (not automatically fixed 100% of the time with the suggested slider adjustment, btw)
                    Balls that roll into the outfield and suddenly disappear only to be counted as HRs
                    3rd basemen not charging bunts down the line
                    Pitcher not getting in proper position during throws home from the outfield
                    2nd baseman covering the 2nd base bag on slow rollers hit to the right side (instead of feilding the ball).
                    SS covering 2nd base when slow rollers were hit directly to the SS spot on the left side...w/ 2nd baseman attempting to field slow roller hit to the left side of the 2nd base bag
                    Pitcher automatically walking the #8 batter any time there were 2 outs.
                    Web gem animation took control from you as soon as the ball was hit on loopers in the infield (infielders would automatically catch the ball).
                    And I STILL see the super automatic all-of a-sudden dives performed by the fielders...just look a the SS dive for a ball in the last IGN POTD.

                    I'm sure other could come up with more.

                    The bad animations just added insult to injury.

                    Note: I reserve the right to exercise Final Judgement upon release of the game.
                    I forgot about the pitchers grabbing everything near them, but I just would have clumped that into diving fielders since it's all roughly the same thing but you are right... The other stuff you mentioned either didn't bother me (I mostly play online or against real people at home) or I didn't see/notice.

                    As for the dives since you brought that up in the end, I think they tweaked it through their momentum implementation, so they won’t get to those "dive spots" as easily. But sure there are and will be diving catches. I just hope it's not with the same frequency as least year since that was my biggest gripe. We'll see...

                    As for the animations I hardly notice them, people talking about the batter spinning his head and such, honestly when I hit the ball I am looking at the ball and deciding where I am running to, I don't know what my batters head is doing... That's just one example...

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                    • K_GUN
                      C*t*z*n *f RSN
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3891

                      #70
                      Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                      all the naysayers.....


                      ......give KUSH 3 years


                      EA needed 3+ years for MVP

                      3DO needed 3-4 years for HH


                      "patience young padawans"
                      Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #71
                        Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                        I continue to be impressed with the new videos, but the moment of truth will be if the franchise bugs are really fixed and if the gameplay is solid.
                        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                        "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #72
                          Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                          Originally posted by K_GUN
                          then maybe you should move on


                          u say you don't want to annoy...yet you do
                          It's responses like this that make absolutely no sense. How do I "annoy," bro? By stating my opinion? By intelligently proving (with EXAMPLES, mind you) WHY I'm not impressed by a game that has added so many things in other areas yet still hasn't progressed much in terms of animations, the single-most, coupled with graphics, important factor in how a game looks? I sure as hell can't give my opinion on how it plays, can I?

                          Should I resort to "OMG, this game is teh suxxx!1!"...? Spare it. If I offend you b/c you take any criticism about this game personally... that's on you. I stated perfectly clear why I was making the comments I did.

                          And as for your question baa, I DON'T have a choice for next-gen baseball this year thanks to all this exclusivity crap. I DO, however, have a right to state MY OPINION, whether you like it or not. Why does this game looking so poor upset me? B/c the series was so damn good in 2k3, and despite the modest improvements in 2k4, there really hasn't been ANY advancement in terms on animations. Try saying that about 2k's OTHER sports titles... and you can't. Of course baa, nothing personal...
                          Last edited by Pared; 03-04-2006, 04:52 PM.
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                          • Rbear2k
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 107

                            #73
                            Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                            Originally posted by K_GUN
                            all the naysayers.....


                            ......give KUSH 3 years


                            EA needed 3+ years for MVP

                            3DO needed 3-4 years for HH


                            "patience young padawans"

                            The series as a whole has had long enough to mature and should be since it is far older than MVP. If you are going to compare it to another baseball franchise based on how long it took them to get things close to right, then you'd be better served using MLB as a comparison. The difference is that the 2k/sega baseball/espn baseball franchise still has problems in really simple to fix areas like how the bats and gloves look. These were present in the very early versions and were not addressed. People can knock EA all they want, but at least when they realized that it was time to scrap the Tripple Play series and start from scratch they did what had to be done and I think all of us as sports gamers are better for it. They were able to leave a market and return to it with a better offering that vastly outplayed the competition in under 3 years. Compare this to the 2k series and it leaves much to be desired. I'm not saying that it is a bad game, but it's time to take it back to the drawing board and address problems that have lingered for way too long.

                            Anyway, after this little rant, my point is that Kush shouldn't need 3 years nor should they get it, the series has had it's time to mature. The next generation of baseball gaming is here and the franchise has been around long enough for us gamers to expect a high quality offering and not just a rerun with some bells and whistles tacked on. I'm hoping that the 360 version of this game has been getting all the extra attention and a lot of problems have been fixed, but current gen versions don't hold too much promise.

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                            • K_GUN
                              C*t*z*n *f RSN
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3891

                              #74
                              Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                              Originally posted by Pared
                              It's responses like this that make absolutely no sense. How do I "annoy," bro? By stating my opinion? By intelligently proving (with EXAMPLES, mind you) WHY I'm not impressed by a game that has added so many things in other areas yet still hasn't progressed much in terms of animations, the single-most, coupled with graphics, important factor in how a game looks? I sure as hell can't give my opinion on how it plays, can I?

                              Should I resort to "OMG, this game is teh suxxx!1!"...? Spare it. If I offend you b/c you take any criticism about this game personally... that's on you. I stated perfectly clear why I was making the comments I did.

                              And as for your question baa, I DON'T have a choice for next-gen baseball this year thanks to all this exclusivity crap. I DO, however, have a right to state MY OPINION, whether you like it or not. Why does this game looking so poor upset me? B/c the series was so damn good in 2k3, and despite the modest improvements in 2k4, there really hasn't been ANY advancement in terms on animations. Try saying that about 2k's OTHER sports titles... and you can't. Of course baa, nothing personal...

                              yawn
                              Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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                              • baa7
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 11691

                                #75
                                Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                                Originally posted by Pared
                                And as for your question baa, I DON'T have a choice for next-gen baseball this year thanks to all this exclusivity crap. I DO, however, have a right to state MY OPINION, whether you like it or not.
                                As I've said, I'm a critic of 2K baseball at times, so your opinion of the game not only doesn't bother me -- a lot of it is valid. I just woder why the need to blow a gasket over it. This game will look like kiddie's toy baseball game in a couple of years, after the real next-gen of gaming kicks in. I just think it's healthy to keep things in perspective.

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