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  • specialman
    Rookie
    • Feb 2008
    • 39

    #16
    Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

    Ok, now that we have the hitting stick sorted out...

    Can we use the hitting system from last year with buttons and left analog to aim?

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    • Chad Rogers
      Banned
      • Jan 2008
      • 140

      #17
      Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

      Kushgamer has confirmed that the sportsgamer article is wrong, there is no L stick to the hitting engine this year. It is a more realistic approach in my mind. As a hitter you are not thinking direction of hit, unless in a move the runner along or sac fly situation. It's a reaction game at the plate vs a "I am going to pull the ball this time up. Now you can still obviously look for a ball in a zone and do just that, but you are not punished by guessing the wrong spot pre-pitch which I feel is nothing like what BB is about. I for one am very excited about this years hitting engine and feel it's finally going to take the "guessing" part out of video baseball.

      Chad

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      • baa7
        Banned
        • Jul 2004
        • 11691

        #18
        Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

        Originally posted by TwinsTerritory
        I think I read that they must have misunderstood what the "batters eye" thing does.
        I think that's what Kush was saying, yup.

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        • baa7
          Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 11691

          #19
          Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

          Originally posted by specialman
          Ok, now that we have the hitting stick sorted out...

          Can we use the hitting system from last year with buttons and left analog to aim?
          Yes, that's still in the game, and hasn't changed from last year.

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          • specialman
            Rookie
            • Feb 2008
            • 39

            #20
            Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

            Thanks baa. Considering the old system of hitting is still intact with left analog to aim, I wonder why anyone would use the new system of hitting if it is solely timing based?

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            • davewins
              MVP
              • Sep 2005
              • 1913

              #21
              Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

              Originally posted by baa7
              davewins: The R stick is used to swing. But as you push up, you can move the stick slightly left or right, in order to influence the direction the ball will travel when it leaves the bat.
              Yeah I got that I deleted my post because I read your post wrong.

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              • baa7
                Banned
                • Jul 2004
                • 11691

                #22
                Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                Originally posted by Chad Rogers
                Kushgamer has confirmed that the sportsgamer article is wrong, there is no L stick to the hitting engine this year. It is a more realistic approach in my mind. As a hitter you are not thinking direction of hit, unless in a move the runner along or sac fly situation. It's a reaction game at the plate vs a "I am going to pull the ball this time up. Now you can still obviously look for a ball in a zone and do just that, but you are not punished by guessing the wrong spot pre-pitch which I feel is nothing like what BB is about. I for one am very excited about this years hitting engine and feel it's finally going to take the "guessing" part out of video baseball.

                Chad
                I agree Chad. And while I prefer zone hitting, I'm willing to give it a shot. Because as you say, some elements sound more realistic than last year's system certainly. Plus I loved the swing stick, and that's improved as well.

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                • TwinsTerritory
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 439

                  #23
                  Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                  They said you can use last seasons pitching and hitting styles and I think the year before, so if the new stuff isn't good, you'll be able to quickly switch.

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                  • specialman
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 39

                    #24
                    Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                    and the systems are interchangeable, yes? I can use the new pitching mechanic with the old hitting mechanic simultaneously?

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                    • TwinsTerritory
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 439

                      #25
                      Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                      Last year they were separte options. I'd guess it'll be the same...

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                      • baa7
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 11691

                        #26
                        Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                        Originally posted by specialman
                        Thanks baa. Considering the old system of hitting is still intact with left analog to aim, I wonder why anyone would use the new system of hitting if it is solely timing based?
                        Swing stick is the system of the future! With the influence sliders working, it's going to be a great way to hit. There is some degree of aiming, but not much, you're right. But having to step into pitches adds an element of difficulty that isn't there with button swinging. I'm looking forward trying it, anyway.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #27
                          Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                          Originally posted by specialman
                          Thanks baa. Considering the old system of hitting is still intact with left analog to aim, I wonder why anyone would use the new system of hitting if it is solely timing based?
                          The left analog wasn't used for aiming last year either.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                          • davewins
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1913

                            #28
                            Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                            Originally posted by specialman
                            Thanks baa. Considering the old system of hitting is still intact with left analog to aim, I wonder why anyone would use the new system of hitting if it is solely timing based?
                            I look at it in 2 ways. One way is great. They simplified things and that's what I think they need to do to get hitting in games right. I noticed in some games I just simply can not hit the high fastball because naturally I move the left analog stick down in the zone. Anything down in the zone I hit hard. Also if somebody throws a nasty sinker I can just sit on it by pressing down and I will be too much rewarded. The way it seems it's going to work with this timing only is obviously crucial timing but more importantly how good the pitch was and the location. Good pitching beats good hitting I think everybody knows that. There are some pitches that are just simply unhittable if they are thrown "perfect" and this can not be implemented correctly if you are moving the left analog stick in the right direction. You are rewarded too much just for your placement of the stick. Pitching controls hitting it's the way it always has and always will be. I think we are going to see great results with this. Also I think it's good because they increased the timing window by I think I read 12-16 frames or something like that. We should not only see accurate results but a huge variety of hit types and "out" types if you will.

                            On the other hand I am a little concerned about swings and misses and how they did that. I know a lot has to do with attributes but is that it?? I'm not sure how that's going to be but I have a lot of confidence that it's going to play a solid realistic game of baseball. These obviously are just assumptions and I hope I'm right. Can't wait to try it out myself to actually see how it all plays out though.

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                            • baa7
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11691

                              #29
                              Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                              Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                              The left analog wasn't used for aiming last year either.
                              Yeah, I made a mistake. L stick for button swinging last year and this year, but not swing stick.

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                              • maverick3176
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 363

                                #30
                                Re: Quick Question regarding hitting?

                                Originally posted by specialman
                                Ok, now that we have the hitting stick sorted out...

                                Can we use the hitting system from last year with buttons and left analog to aim?
                                no...."classic" is button only timing.

                                Also when i said you couldnt aim i was right...but to further clarify...you cant aim your swing...instead you influence or aim where the ball will go after contact.

                                I have soooooooooo many issues with the hitting system...it actually drove me to buy a PS3 and The show

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