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  • Tomba
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    • Sep 2006
    • 8908

    #16
    Re: This game without framerate issues

    Originally posted by Shockgeez04
    I love how everyone mentions "framerate issues" with this game when they have no effect on the outcome of games. Wow the presentation overlays slow down sometimes...is it annoying...of course...but is it really that big of a deal?
    are YOU kiddin me?! @$^&&%*%(no offense since you prob. play on 360) BUT man on PS3 it's a complete GAME KILLER my friend...
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    • gamerk2
      Rookie
      • Sep 2007
      • 324

      #17
      Re: This game without framerate issues

      The Show really hasn't changed much. If you look past the deep franchise mode and graphics, it plays a lot like ASB 1999. 2k8, despite its faults (and there are quite a few), has a diffrent feel due to most of the controls being mapped to the right stick, and i am loving it.

      Whichever game you like depends on wether you prefer gameplay or a polished game, i guess.

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      • kumala
        Pro
        • Oct 2002
        • 599

        #18
        Re: This game without framerate issues

        2k8 without the issues is a good game of baseball. but besides the new controls, nothing much has improved. using the same intro as last year before every game is not good, graphics did take a step back, and when you need to do things to make the game smoother is just wrong. the show has it share of faults too but it is a more complete game of baseball. hopefully a patch will fix 2k8 issues but if you want more than just one game of baseball, get a ps3 and the show.

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        • maverick3176
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 363

          #19
          Re: This game without framerate issues

          The Show is the ultimate baseball experience. Yes 2K has "new" gameplay mechanics. But new doesnt equal better. EVery year you get a "new" bad game.

          At this point to me it is funny that their is even a debate, but hell some people like hamburger helper over a nice filet mignon steak. There is no accounting for taste.

          Just look at the conversations on the forums. On the 2K forums these guys are just trying to make this game playable. On the Show forums they are discussing how perfect it is and if anything how to make it play perfect. Not that game reviewers know everything, but I am yet to see a reviewer who has rated 2k higher...or even close

          In summary one game is shooting for playability...the other is shooting for perfection...you tell me which game is better.

          I personally havent had a better sports gaming experience since NFL2K5 and their hasnt been a better baseball gaming experience. And guess what I hope they dont innovate in the Show 09 because if it aint broke dont fix it.

          2K9 will have to do alot of innovations...i heard the innovation they are working on is this new idea of smooth gameplay with 60fps...wow cant wait til next year.

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          • El_MaYiMbE
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 1427

            #20
            Re: This game without framerate issues

            I never played The Show so im not going to bash it....but the player models arent great (baby T-Rex arms, square shoulders, etc.....)

            What I think MLB 2K8 lacks is presentation....but the gameplay is very strong when the frame rate issue is solved. If they can keep the same gameplay and overhaul the presentation this game would better then what I am hearing of the show....

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            • spankdatazz22
              All Star
              • May 2003
              • 6219

              #21
              Re: This game without framerate issues

              Originally posted by Tomba321
              Having to EVEN decide which game to get should not be the point. Both dev's should have done a great job in the first place making their 2nd foray into next gen engines.
              It's nice to have that expectation, but it's wishful thinking. Going by that logic, then I would expect people to have the same expectations of NBA '08 (989's basketball game) as they do The Show '08. Instead most people barely knows it exists. I guess that game doesn't get razzed as much because people are essentially satisfied w/their other choices.

              Unfortunately i believe that 2ksports doesn't have a grasp of what it takes to optimize their current game engine and thats the reason for all it's problems this year. they go and CHANGE every aspect of gameplay and the thing grinds to hault as far as being repsonsive to all the "innovation" it has EVEN after completely dumbing down whatever was almost absolutely beautiful visually last year.
              I do remember people giving early impressions that either said the framerate issue was minimal or non-existent, perhaps because they were playing under different circumstances than most are. And gamers seem to want to have it every way they can - I remember people saying the game "looks like last year" as a negative when vids started to surface. If the game "only" ran at 30fps I get the feeling people would've been complaining about that (as they did with the differences between Madden/APF differences on the 360 and PS3). And again, it seems gamers this gen are more focused on pretty graphics than attempts to innovate gameplay.

              So... "this" game without framerates issues is great, but with em' it's almost an entire breakdown of a developers vision. brinkman has nowhere to go next year but up because after this year low it's almost impossible to get any more worse.
              Wasn't MLB2K6 worse? MUCH worse? I don't get the constant need to overstate the game's issues. How is it that you can try to make this game comparable to 2K6?

              I played some 2k7 for the ps3 the other day and that game is 100 times smoother than 2k8. Wjhy? 2k7 wasn't THAT bad actually it need a few important tweaks. Instead they go and ruin the BASIC game and try to innovate within a time period of a YEAR?Come ON!
              I remember reading many people say MLB2K7 sucked - even after the patch. That a pretty game didn't matter if the game didn't play well. My impressions on what was said last year was it was okay for 2K7 to make the gameplay more stable from a horrid 2K6, but gameplay improvements were expected for 2K8. They didn't want a slightly improved game "for their $60".

              Now it's a beacon of gameplay and graphics.

              Just trying to understand
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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #22
                Re: This game without framerate issues

                Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
                I never played The Show so im not going to bash it....but the player models arent great (baby T-Rex arms, square shoulders, etc.....)

                .
                LOL, never played it, but can comment on the player models. Classic.
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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71582

                  #23
                  Re: This game without framerate issues

                  Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                  It's nice to have that expectation, but it's wishful thinking. Going by that logic, then I would expect people to have the same expectations of NBA '08 (989's basketball game) as they do The Show '08. Instead most people barely knows it exists. I guess that game doesn't get razzed as much because people are essentially satisfied w/their other choices.



                  I do remember people giving early impressions that either said the framerate issue was minimal or non-existent, perhaps because they were playing under different circumstances than most are. And gamers seem to want to have it every way they can - I remember people saying the game "looks like last year" as a negative when vids started to surface. If the game "only" ran at 30fps I get the feeling people would've been complaining about that (as they did with the differences between Madden/APF differences on the 360 and PS3). And again, it seems gamers this gen are more focused on pretty graphics than attempts to innovate gameplay.



                  Wasn't MLB2K6 worse? MUCH worse? I don't get the constant need to overstate the game's issues. How is it that you can try to make this game comparable to 2K6?



                  I remember reading many people say MLB2K7 sucked - even after the patch. That a pretty game didn't matter if the game didn't play well. My impressions on what was said last year was it was okay for 2K7 to make the gameplay more stable from a horrid 2K6, but gameplay improvements were expected for 2K8. They didn't want a slightly improved game "for their $60".

                  Now it's a beacon of gameplay and graphics.

                  Just trying to understand
                  Is your real name Anthony Chau?
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                  • Tomba
                    TOMBA IS ONLINE
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 8908

                    #24
                    Re: This game without framerate issues

                    Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                    It's nice to have that expectation, but it's wishful thinking. Going by that logic, then I would expect people to have the same expectations of NBA '08 (989's basketball game) as they do The Show '08. Instead most people barely knows it exists. I guess that game doesn't get razzed as much because people are essentially satisfied w/their other choices.



                    I do remember people giving early impressions that either said the framerate issue was minimal or non-existent, perhaps because they were playing under different circumstances than most are. And gamers seem to want to have it every way they can - I remember people saying the game "looks like last year" as a negative when vids started to surface. If the game "only" ran at 30fps I get the feeling people would've been complaining about that (as they did with the differences between Madden/APF differences on the 360 and PS3). And again, it seems gamers this gen are more focused on pretty graphics than attempts to innovate gameplay.



                    Wasn't MLB2K6 worse? MUCH worse? I don't get the constant need to overstate the game's issues. How is it that you can try to make this game comparable to 2K6?



                    I remember reading many people say MLB2K7 sucked - even after the patch. That a pretty game didn't matter if the game didn't play well. My impressions on what was said last year was it was okay for 2K7 to make the gameplay more stable from a horrid 2K6, but gameplay improvements were expected for 2K8. They didn't want a slightly improved game "for their $60".

                    Now it's a beacon of gameplay and graphics.

                    Just trying to understand

                    Either way MLB 2k8 is the definition of SUCK
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                    • spankdatazz22
                      All Star
                      • May 2003
                      • 6219

                      #25
                      Re: This game without framerate issues

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      Is your real name Anthony Chau?
                      Nope. But thanks for not answering the questions
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                      • spankdatazz22
                        All Star
                        • May 2003
                        • 6219

                        #26
                        Re: This game without framerate issues

                        Originally posted by Tomba321
                        Either way MLB 2k8 is the definition of SUCK
                        lol great answer
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                        • Tomba
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                          • Sep 2006
                          • 8908

                          #27
                          Re: This game without framerate issues

                          Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                          lol great answer
                          Didn't feel like any questions were being directed toward me LOL.

                          I'm just trying to "understand" myself what happened with this game this year. i fully support the "gameplay" push, but unfortunately it was at a cost most users and MANY critics agree wasn't worth it. It forces a 360 crowd AND a PS3 crowd into being maybe ohh i don't know "careful"? or just plain wishful" yet again for another year which these 1 year game cycle are always about.
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                          • bowlerguy92
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 1034

                            #28
                            Re: This game without framerate issues

                            I think the show is an amazing game but the fact that it hasn't really changed in 3 years is true. I think they did what they did SO well the first time that fans are willing to overlook that the game hasn't changed much for the past few seasons.

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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71582

                              #29
                              Re: This game without framerate issues

                              Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                              Nope. But thanks for not answering the questions
                              And thanks for not bringing Madden in to the conversation.

                              I know you feel the need to defend all things 2k at all costs. This game has some serious potential, imo, but I can definitely see how the framerate problems could be a gamekiller for some people. (I am not one of those people, but I understand where they are coming from).

                              As for answering the questions, why? Why would I. You will say whatever it takes, no matter how off the wall to defend that company. Hopefully Chau at least gives you commision.
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                              • bkrich83
                                Has Been
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71582

                                #30
                                Re: This game without framerate issues

                                Originally posted by bowlerguy92
                                I think the show is an amazing game but the fact that it hasn't really changed in 3 years is true. I think they did what they did SO well the first time that fans are willing to overlook that the game hasn't changed much for the past few seasons.
                                With the Show, it wasn't broken so why fix it? I am fine with that.

                                2k series was mired in mediocrity. I think they were forced to be innovative due to their lackluster previous releases. I love the new gameplay mechanics, particularly the fielding. I just don't think that kind of innovation was needed in The Show's case.
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