This game without framerate issues

**RoyalBoyle78** · 03-21-2008, 02:01 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by bkrich83

Yeah it's different for everyone. I notice the framerate hits, and it does take some of the enjoyment of the game away for me, but I don't find it to be gamekilling like some folks do. But I do undertsand why some would feel that way. Everyone has different tolerance levels for certain gaming issues.

I have the PS3 version, and to me it's kinda gamekilling. Also from playing the Show and then putting in 2K8 really doesn't help.

**bkrich83** · 03-21-2008, 02:04 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by FootballForever

I have the PS3 version, and to me it's kinda gamekilling. Also from playing the Show and then putting in 2K8 really doesn't help.

I have the PS3 version as well.. I have mitigated the problem some with Wide Zoom as my hitters camera and the Aerial cam as my fielding camera. It makes it playable. You are right, the smoothness of The Show's framerate does make it look worse than it probably is as well.

**ZB9** · 03-21-2008, 02:05 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by FootballForever

Honestly, I really can't notice, I'm being serious, every time I put the game in and have to deal with the framerate, I have to turn it off. I haven't completed a game yet, by the 3rd inning on just pissed because of the framerate. The shows fielding is just fine for me, the lasting thing for me with both games is, the Show just portrays baseball better then anything I have ever played. Yes it needs some patching, like I said nothing is perfect, but it's pretty darn close for me.

if i were having those extreme framerate issues, id probably be the same way...but im not having those problems at the same level. Do you have an "elite"? Maybe the extra memory, etc. on the elite makes a difference?

but i am seeing slight hiccups every once in a while. It could certainly be smoother for me also. It's good they are making a patch.

**bkrich83** · 03-21-2008, 02:08 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by ZB9

if i were having those extreme framerate issues, id probably be the same way...but im not having those problems at the same level. Do you have an "elite"? Maybe the extra memory, etc. on the elite makes a difference?

but i am seeing slight hiccups every once in a while. It could certainly be smoother for me also. It's good they are making a patch.

He's playing PS3 version. The framerate hits on the PS3 are pretty noticeable. Which is disappoint after Brinkman in that interview stated it was running at 60 FPS, and they actually got it to 60 FPS on the PS3 version before they did on the 360 version. At no time does this game ever get close to 60 fps on the PS3 version. Not even close.

Like I said I can live with it, but I can see how it would aggrivate some people.

**ZB9** · 03-21-2008, 02:12 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by FootballForever

I have the PS3 version, and to me it's kinda gamekilling. Also from playing the Show and then putting in 2K8 really doesn't help.

ok you played it on the ps3...i guess it has more problems on that system. I guess they developed it on the 360 and did a port over to the ps3. There must have been problems with the port.

i dont blame you. Extreme framerate issues would be a gamekiller, especially in a baseball game

**RoyalBoyle78** · 03-21-2008, 02:12 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by ZB9

if i were having those extreme framerate issues, id probably be the same way...but im not having those problems at the same level. Do you have an "elite"? Maybe the HD on the elite makes a difference?

but i am seeing slight hiccups every once in a while. It could certainly be smoother for me also. It's good they are making a patch.

PS3 version. Also I don't think 2k8 is bad, because it's not, it's just not my favorite this year. I was upset that the graphics took a hit, when they shouldn't touched the graphics. Also the slogan that 2k uses is there signature style, when I think The show how more signature style then 2k8, I think the show wins when it comes to batting stances and pitcher windups.

**RoyalBoyle78** · 03-21-2008, 02:16 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by ZB9

ok you played it on the ps3...i guess it has more problems on that system. I guess they developed it on the 360 and did a port over to the ps3. There must have been problems with the port.

i dont blame you. Extreme framerate issues would be a gamekiller, especially in a baseball game

thats my main issue, Brinkman said that it wans't going to be a port, and they had two separate teams working on the two version.

**spankdatazz22** · 03-21-2008, 02:34 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by bkrich83

And thanks for not bringing Madden in to the conversation.

I know you feel the need to defend all things 2k at all costs. This game has some serious potential, imo, but I can definitely see how the framerate problems could be a gamekiller for some people. (I am not one of those people, but I understand where they are coming from).

As for answering the questions, why? Why would I. You will say whatever it takes, no matter how off the wall to defend that company. Hopefully Chau at least gives you commision.

lol - you could've simplified your initial answer and the one above by just saying "So?". Would've been just as mature. I'm not sitting here saying Madden '08 is the worst game ever released and customers should be asking for a refund - and I've never said anything close. Unfortunately you're the type that see (read) what you want to see (read).

At least Tomba followed up and gave his answer. I'm not trying to say that everyone should love the game - I acknowledge it shouldn't have shipped with the problems it has. But if you bothered to read the text of what I was saying instead of immediately taking it out of context, you'd see I was asking how is 2K8 the worst game ever, as some portray it as? Why are there OS-sactioned threads talking about refunds? If this game is that bad, then what bar are the other '08 games being measured to? Of course you can't give legit answers because it's so much easier to take the ridiculous comments/immature/petty route ("you must defend 2K at all costs" "hopefully Chau gives you a commission"). At least you did have a passing reference to an actual game problem

**ZB9** · 03-21-2008, 02:38 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by bkrich83

He's playing PS3 version. The framerate hits on the PS3 are pretty noticeable. Which is disappoint after Brinkman in that interview stated it was running at 60 FPS, and they actually got it to 60 FPS on the PS3 version before they did on the 360 version. At no time does this game ever get close to 60 fps on the PS3 version. Not even close.

Like I said I can live with it, but I can see how it would aggrivate some people.

that suxs. It probably wasnt ready. With the 360 they will just release a patch.

People are having framerate problems on the 360 obviously, but i dont think it's at the level that people are saying it's having on the ps3. They should have delayed the release of the ps3 version imo, although that's probably easier said that done.

**bubba4** · 03-21-2008, 02:56 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

The Show is a very good game. 2K8 has the POTENTIAL to be a very good game also. The only thing wrong with MLB2K8 is quite simple. It's not developed by Visual Concepts. Kush has shown that they are very capable as they have brought MLB2K back to life. But the number 1 sports developer for 2K (and for sports games period, imo) is Visual Concepts.

The Show should be considered for sports game of the year right along with NBA2K8. I'd give NBA2K8 the edge, though. I don't know why the decision at T2 to not put the VC gang onto baseball was made. Especially since they bought the MLB license. It seems that one would put their A-Team on such a high profile product. If they had, I am more than certain that the result would be another stellar sports title from VC.
Bubba4

**bkrich83** · 03-21-2008, 03:02 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by spankdatazz22

lol - you could've simplified your initial answer and the one above by just saying "So?". Would've been just as mature. I'm not sitting here saying Madden '08 is the worst game ever released and customers should be asking for a refund - and I've never said anything close. Unfortunately you're the type that see (read) what you want to see (read).

At least Tomba followed up and gave his answer. I'm not trying to say that everyone should love the game - I acknowledge it shouldn't have shipped with the problems it has. But if you bothered to read the text of what I was saying instead of immediately taking it out of context, you'd see I was asking how is 2K8 the worst game ever, as some portray it as? Why are there OS-sactioned threads talking about refunds? If this game is that bad, then what bar are the other '08 games being measured to? Of course you can't give legit answers because it's so much easier to take the ridiculous comments/immature/petty route ("you must defend 2K at all costs" "hopefully Chau gives you a commission"). At least you did have a passing reference to an actual game problem

LOL, so are you going to deny you defend the 2k games at all costs?

As far as an officially sanctioned OS piece? It's an opinion piece. Pretty common in the world of journalism. Nothing less, nothing more. I find it funny, the guy is getting slammed to do his job. Write articles based on his opinion. But please take another shot at Madden or any EA game at your nearest opportunity. It's much easier for you to do that to muddy the water than to take articles like this for what they are. Op pieces that are a staple of online, print and tv media, and have been for a while. I don't agree with all of the author's points, but people like you, who have such extreme blind loyalty to a brand name, attempt to make articles like this in to something they aren't.

**bigfnjoe96** · 03-21-2008, 03:28 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by bubba4

The Show is a very good game. 2K8 has the POTENTIAL to be a very good game also. The only thing wrong with MLB2K8 is quite simple. It's not developed by Visual Concepts. Kush has shown that they are very capable as they have brought MLB2K back to life. But the number 1 sports developer for 2K (and for sports games period, imo) is Visual Concepts.
Bubba4

Bubba, I greatly appreciate this comment. Personally I also think it's time for KUSH to stop developing this game. They've had 4 years to get it right(Starting with MLB 2K5) & no matter what they do, they just can't get-it right.

Personally I would like to see Blue Castle take-over the game, before VC would. From my understanding BC is made-up of various people from the MVP Team.

**bkrich83** · 03-21-2008, 03:33 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by bigfnjoe96

Bubba, I greatly appreciate this comment. Personally I also think it's time for KUSH to stop developing this game. They've had 4 years to get it right(Starting with MLB 2K5) & no matter what they do, they just can't get-it right.

Personally I would like to see Blue Castle take-over the game, before VC would. From my understanding BC is made-up of various people from the MVP Team.

That being said, I have never been a huge fan of the 2k baseball games, even 2k3 and 2k4 which a lot of people really liked. 2k8 is easily my favorite 2k baseball game ever. I think they are on the right path. Now they just need to optimize the graphics and framerates, and get the presentation and commentary up to snuff, and we'll have a top notch game on our hands.

**spankdatazz22** · 03-21-2008, 03:50 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by bkrich83

Op pieces that are a staple of online, print and tv media, and have been for a while. I don't agree with all of the author's points, but people like you, who have such extreme blind loyalty to a brand name, attempt to make articles like this in to something they aren't.

I'm not going to go in circles with you again - you're going to believe what you want to believe, nevermind if anything I said actually makes sense which is why you hide behind/fall back on the weak fanboy argument all the time.

I'm trying to make the article into something it's not... huh? It would seem to me a game must be pretty bad if someone's demanding a refund. I don't have a problem with someone having an opinion. But just like IGN does with their "opinion" pieces - what gets said affects general perception. Trying to act naive to that being a possibility is ridiculous

EDIT: didn't mean to derail the thread in any way

**bkrich83** · 03-21-2008, 04:42 PM

Re: This game without framerate issues

Originally posted by spankdatazz22

I'm not going to go in circles with you again - you're going to believe what you want to believe, nevermind if anything I said actually makes sense which is why you hide behind/fall back on the weak fanboy argument all the time.

I'm trying to make the article into something it's not... huh? It would seem to me a game must be pretty bad if someone's demanding a refund. I don't have a problem with someone having an opinion. But just like IGN does with their "opinion" pieces - what gets said affects general perception. Trying to act naive to that being a possibility is ridiculous

EDIT: didn't mean to derail the thread in any way

The proof is in the pudding with your blind loyalty. You can deny it, you can site me hiding behind my weak fanboy argument. It's not like it's a secret and no one else has figured it out. No matter how hard you object.

It may affect general perception, but it doesn't make writing an opinion piece make an author or a media outlet any less responsible than anyone else. Especially considering just about any media outlet in the world, be it on the internet, on the radio, on TV or in print, most with much larger reader/viewership than OS do the exact same thing.

I somehow doubt you'd be protesting this piece had it been written about Madden or any other non-2k product.

Again, I don't really agree with the author, but I don't see where the outrage from certain people is coming from.

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